How was that chicken today? Pretty good, huh? Polo Loco. Pollo. Marcus Polo. Marco Polo. Loco Polo. In the water. Marco Polo. I don't know what was the point of it? To get to hide? Right. Right. Marco. Polo. That John Schlenck is one sex pot. Really, he looks like he needs some sun, some exercise, and some burgers. Yeah, I've come to like just think that I used to kind of like want him to really like me no in the end have to go up and, you know, do everything and when he walks up the aisle I always want him to like touch me or something. Now I just feel like yeah, you know, you're there you're not there he's just gonna down the ages I love it every week he uses that slogan down the ages. Down the ages wise men... Acha. Achay. That place is fu that's a pretty easy going place I think. Richard's so the best. Did you ever notice the side of the podium is all rubbed off where the hand goes? Oh yeah go look at it. It's pretty intense. When's he coming in? I think Swami is away though. I think Chetananda is coming in, no what's his name, Saradevananda. When does Saradevananda show up? Swami's gonna be away when's the last session does it say the last session is when? Does it say it's closing in May? Huh. I guess it's closing in June. Swami's missing the last few sessions. I think Saradevananda is coming from the middle of May to the end to June. He's going to England. Betty girl. Betty girl. You're so sleepy. You did good wearing that fur coat. Wearing that fur coat. It's it's yeah, it's Fabio's show I'm sure didn't go. Cheryl can this thing go back to your studio? The mound of glory. The mound of glory! I didn't make that up. Put your rollerblades away. The shoes are so beautiful. They are like like too small. What am I gonna do? Do we can we have them stretched? You know they're really nice, aren't they? They're really they're still cool aren't they? Yeah, I never bothered to have them stretched I really like ‘em. How do you have them stretched? Here go pull them down. I'll go get them stretched. You mean this guy can actually widen them for me? They're really nice, man. They're really like super nice. Yeah. These are comfortable, I mean they will be. Ah, now just tell me to do them both, yeah. Look at how many fuckin' shoes you have! That won't fit. Blair Kenny. How are ya? Oh the upgrade? Oh, you wanna forward it to me? OK, well, OK at any rate, um, so what's the problem? You know what? I'm not going to be able to answer them because, well, no I don't use it I just write regular old html. So I haven't played around with this thing nearly enough to give you any advice with it. You probably know more about it at this point than I do. Uh huh. Well why don't you just take some time and, uh, and, uh, learn html. Right. Right it's not, right. Yeah, you should just just, you know, get get that old copy of BBEdit out and write some html. Yeah or like what we learned at that class I think that's probably gonna be the best idea. Yeah, I don't know what to say hon I guess you somebody they should you can't just expect to learn html overnight it's not it's not realistic. You know, it's not it's just not a, uh... right it, right. Yeah. Yeah, well it sounds like I don't know it sounds like they've given you all this responsibility, you know, I mean I think everybody thinks that that html and and and making web pages is, you know, really easy, you know, and well, it's like any other program it's just a matter of learning it. I mean, so they Interep wants you to build their web site? It's it's not, I mean, it's it's it's a whole other program and it's a whole other skill. Right? So anyway, you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't sweat it I would just tell Jane to have you just take some time, you know, and learn learn to do it or why why don't you give that that document to the people who are building your website let them do it. I don't think it should really be your problem, you know, I mean it doesn't strike me, you know, like it should really be your problem in any in any way, really cause it's, you know, I understand you wanted to take it on but, you know, just cut yourself a little slack and and know that these things take take some time to learn. So, you know, you can never learn overnight and if you want to do it do it, you know, and learn it on work time but don't, you know, or or give it to the html people to take care of on this one you'll know you'll learn it for the next time but I wouldn't, you know, beat myself up about it. Yeah, it's not that easy, you know? Uh huh yeah yeah well. Yep yep yep yep yep. You're not gonna learn it overnight I mean it, you know, I wouldn't let it go but I would take some time to learn it. You, you know, you just you can you can't learn it overnight. Oh, I'd probably use a little bit of Page Mill I'd probably use a little BBEdit, you know, I'd do do a little bit of this and a little bit of that and, you know, make it work. You can't just paste it in because you've got to in BBEdit you've got to hand enter in tags. Yeah, so, you know, I, you know, yeah I mean I'd know how to do it but I've been doing this full time for a year so, you know, with no problem but you you cannot expect to simply, you know, just go and start doing it it's it's some kind of a weird, you know, if I if it's like taking an 80 page document in Photoshop and you just picked up Photoshop last week. How could anybody expect you to do that? So I think... Well, no you don't. Just have her give it to the html people, you know, I mean, give it give it give it to people who know what they are doing. If they have people building a web site then there's gonna be people that know how to do it and just give it to them to do. You know? What can can't you do that? Yep yep yep yep, uh huh. No I mean these are all things this is the craft of html. Any anybody can take an image and scan it but can you make it function in Photoshop, you know, it's not it's not that simple. You just can't you just can't go into something and and, right. I mean there's a million things to know and you're never gonna learn it overnight, you know, and I mean I don't know I'm not sure where everybody gets the idea in their mind that html is such a snap. It's like saying Photoshop or Quark's a snap. How long did it take you to learn those those programs or AutoCad, you know? Uh huh. Uh huh. Uh huh. Uh huh. No it's just just links. No, I don't care it's it's your work. Yeah yeah yeah. Sure, just just make a link. It is it's easy it's easy, yeah yeah just make a link. No problem. Uh huh. Uh huh. Are you upset? Yeah. Right. Right. Well, I don't I don't know what to say, you know, I don't know what to say. Maybe you guys need to put up and you wanna pay someone I'll do it, um, I'll do it for you, um, I'll whatever you need. I don't mind doing that if you guys are in a bind. But I do need to be paid. And the other, you know, but on the other hand it's nothing that I could walk you through tonight because there are a thousand things to know about about, you know, what makes an image work on the web and what makes an image not work on the web and what you can use BeyondPress for and what you can't. Now, you know, if you if she wants to if she wants to have me do this job I'd be happy to to show, you know, do it and you could sit next to me and I could show you every step and why I'm doing what I'm doing. I don't mind teaching you and showing you at all ever about anything, you know? But there's so much to teach and so much to learn and so many little tricks and things about this, uh, Internet stuff, you know, so many. People don't understand it. Everybody makes it think makes it seem like it's so easy, um, but, you know, there's it's learnable and it's knowable but it's gonna take a little bit of time. Well I mean why don't you just send why don't you just send me the Quark document? Why don't you just stick it in the mail for me I'll have a look at it and tell you how long it's gonna take me and what it's gonna cost them, um, you know, and I'll I'll I'll give, you know, I'll let you know if it's something you guys really need, you know, I, you know, don't mind doing it, um, you know, and if, you know, she wants, you know... Well, um, I would but I need certain things probably to do it that are on my machine, you know? Um, you know, um, I don't I don't know if I feel like spending a whole day I don't know if I feel like spending a day there or something but I don't mind I wouldn't mind doing it at my place just cause it seems like the Internet you don't really need to be anywhere physically and, you know, if she wants to, you know, I mean you could just come down, you know, instead of going to work that day you could come come down. Yeah, bring me the thing and we'll look at it together and, you know, it could be part of your job. Tell her look, you know, you can explain to her exactly what I said to you that this is never something that's learned overnight but that, you know, I can learn Kenny can do it, I can learn, I'll sit with him, um, he can probably do it in a relatively short time and I'll learn it and, uh, kill two birds with one stone. I don't know, you know, I have to look at it really. Yeah, well, I mean if I yeah or if I once I show you, you know, and tell you the tricks and blah blah blah you can sit with me and hang out with me while I do it and then, you know, I'll tell you exactly what I'm doing and then then next time you approach it you'll you'll know what what to do and what what what not to do what will work and what will not work. It'll be a learning thing as well so you could tell her, look, I could learn this stuff and he could do it. But, you know, you know what I'm saying? You know if you wanna just email the Quark document... How big is it? Well, you I mean that's doable you can you can mail me a 600k document, I mean, that's no big deal. You know just stuff it and and and blow it over, you know, it that's that's nothing. Yeah I mean, you know, if you guys are in a bind I'd be happy to help you. You know, I don't wanna sound like a total prick but, you know, it there's a lot to know and a lot to learn, like, a lot. And it's, you know, it's something I've been doing full time for months for a year and it's just. Yeah, the Quark thing is not, I mean, well it it might might do a little something. I don't use it much. But I'd be more than happy to teach you, uh, how to do it. Oh no you do you do what you do well. I mean, you're very good, you know, you're better way better than I am at Quark, that's for sure, yeah, it's just all all what we decide to, you know, spend our time learning. All we can do is be a specialist in one thing. Unfortunately we can't we can't do it all. One thing people are not understanding and I think one thing you are not understanding is that, yes, you cannot make you cannot make an html document look like a Quark document now you can use some tricks, you can use tables which are much more advanced html commands things like tables to make things work. Well that's yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, you can fake things pretty good but again, you know, it's it's it's it's it's it's knowledge, you know, it's it's like lots to know how to how to write html to create tables, you know, it's just a lot to learn and a lot to know, you know, it's it's just writing raw tags there's no there's no editor that will write a table for you. You've got to do it by hand. Page Mill doesn't know tables. It doesn't understand them. It doesn't matter, I mean, you can't it's not it's not gonna... no it's not. html table is not the same as a regular table, believe me. It's it's it's really dumb and clunky and but, you know, that's the way it has to be done right now. It won't always be this way but right for the moment it is. So, if you guys are in a bind, you know, I'll be happy to have a look at it and give you an estimate, you know, give Interep an estimate and, you know, whatever needs to be done can be done I'm sure, um, and I'd be happy to teach you anything that I know, of course, you know, as always. Right and listen, you know, if it was your own homepage, you know, I'd say Blair come on over we'll do it but, you know, it's it's a it's a job is a job. It's, you know, you know, if it was if this was your visual poetry, you know, like like when you're over that day, I mean it's like who, of course. I'd do it for you in a heartbeat. But it's a different, you know, it's work, you know, Interep makes plenty of money. Why don't you call are you working tomorrow? So give me a buzz. I'll be in my office all day. I'll just be there working or send me email or have her call me but if it's something that you guys need done I mean I can do it and I can do it real fast, you know, I can it is doable. Whatever it is it's doable and I can do it and I can do it real quick too. Alright? Alright my dear and, um, you know about that link thing, you know, that nobody has to check with you for having a link. Having a link to your page is great. God, you know, everybody wants a link to their page. So, just, alright? So, why don't we talk tomorrow? I should be in sort of by 10:30, 11. Ah, what does that mean? No, but, you know, I mean do you need if you need to get in touch with me. I won't be on forever. If I'm on if I'm on if I'm, you know, I'm I'm usually online at most for about 20 minutes. OK? Yeah, get in touch. Let's let's do it. And don't sweat it. Give yourself a little break. Don't be so you can't, you know, Rome wasn't built in a day. You'll learn this stuff but I just think you're falling into a common fallacy that html is is doable by everyone. You know, who, you know. Well, but do you have a server? OK. If they said do it in Page Mill that means write it in html so. Alright, well listen if you guys decide that you want to do it in html give me a buzz tomorrow. Alright? Alright, hon. Just just, you know, stop doing it, do some art and stop worrying about it. It's Sunday night and talk to me tomorrow. OK, I'm there if you need me. OK, babe, bye.