========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:32:32 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Charles Bernstein Subject: Paul Celan / New York panel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Paul Celan: A Panel Discussion Thursday, Nov. 2nd 7 pm Paul Auster, Charles Bernstein, John Hollander, and Maya Maxym Introduced and moderated by John Felstiner The evening includes a discussion of Celan's impact and achievement, as well as readings of his work in translation and rare recordings of his poems in his own voice. A Poetry Society of America Event. Co-sponsored with the New School Admission is $8, $4 for members. The New School 66 West 12th Street New York ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:10:07 -0500 Reply-To: patrick@proximate.org Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Patrick Herron Subject: Governor General In-Reply-To: <39FD6D6B.B9A2753D@concentric.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A TALE OF TWO LIT AWARDS: "The shortlists for Canada's most prominent literary awards are often described like rival high school cliques. Giller Prize nominees are the cheerleaders, football captains and student council presidents with perfect teeth who wave out from the convertible at the head of every homecoming parade. Poor Governor General's Awards nominees, on the other hand, enjoy far less prestige, like the nerdish greasers and trenchcoat types who hang out behind the portables, the jocks coming round every once in a while to bloody their noses and smash their Gothic punk CDs." - National Post (Canada) 10/25/00 http://www.nationalpost.com/artslife/story.html?f=/stories/20001025/439668.h tml Patrick Herron -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of Rachel Loden Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 7:46 AM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: His Life: A Poem It seems that Bowering's been holding out on us. A link at Poetry Daily led me to the _Edmonton Journal_ and the news that "George Bowering of Vancouver is up for his third Governor General's Award for his poetic memoir _His Life: A Poem_." I first tried to find this book when Ron Silliman raved about it here, calling it "a real find! Poems written based on diary notes from the solstices and equinoxes (thus four per year) from '58 to '88. In addition to the absolute loveliness of the writing itself, you can get a real feel for a world that is just ever so slightly distanced from your own . . . . It feels like a great gift to read." SPD doesn't carry it but I ordered a copy last week at Chapters (a Canadian booksite: http://www.chapters.ca/Books/) and evil Amazon seems to have it as well. Now all I want to know is, what in the name of Gilbert & Sullivan is a Governor General? -- Rachel Loden http://www.thepomegranate.com/loden/hotel.html email: rloden@concentric.net ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:19:20 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Coffey, Michael (Cahners-NYC)" Subject: Re: Announcements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain michael coffey mcoffey@cahners.com thanks! > -----Original Message----- > From: Debra Laser [SMTP:laser17@ATTGLOBAL.NET] > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 4:54 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: Announcements > > If you are currently on our email list and would like to be on our regular > mailing list (so you can receive a sample issue of The Poetry Project > Newsletter for FREE), just reply to this email with your full name and > address. Hope to hear from you soon!!! > > > Debra Laser > 14202 Manorvale Rd. > Rockville, MD 20853 > > thank you! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:05:35 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Kimmelman, Burt" Subject: nyc reading 11/6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Colette Inez and Burt Kimmelman reading on Monday, November 6th at KGB Bar 85 E. 4th St. (off 2nd Ave.) NYC 212.505.3360 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:23:09 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: Re: Announcements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gerald Schwartz 41 Thornton Rd. Rochester, New York 14617 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:34:13 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: tom bell Subject: Re: Announcements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thomas Bell 2518 Wellington Pl. Murfreesboro, TN 37128 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra Laser" To: Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Announcements > If you are currently on our email list and would like to be on our regular > mailing list (so you can receive a sample issue of The Poetry Project > Newsletter for FREE), just reply to this email with your full name and > address. Hope to hear from you soon!!! > > > Debra Laser > 14202 Manorvale Rd. > Rockville, MD 20853 > > thank you! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:52:45 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: tom bell Subject: Re: body memoirs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dodie, You might want to look at _The body in language_ by Horst Ruthrof an _The wounded body_ by Dennis Slattery - i'm still digesting, chewing on, or swallowing both. Also, Jacqueline Rose has some interesting thoughts in _The haunting of Sylvia Plath and i'm hoping that contributor's to Metaphor/Metonym for Health (http://members.tripod.com/~trbell/metaphor/metapho.htm) will be getting into, through, and out of the sick body. tom bell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dodie Bellamy" To: Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 4:44 PM Subject: body memoirs > Since you've all been so helpful with teaching ideas, here's another > class I'm planning that I'd welcome suggestions for. The course is a > grad level creative nonfiction workshop. Previous creative > nonfiction workshops have been taught with a thematic focus, so > following that lead, I've decided to focus on writing about the body. > I'll give some writing exercises focused around body stuff, which are > optional to people who'd prefer to work on ongoing projects. I also > want to do some body-centered reading. Ideas I have are David > Wojnarowicz, Frantz Fanon, and the anorexia/bulimia memoir Wasted. > Actually, many things come to mind, but I'd welcome suggestions. I'd > like to look at a range of writings about the body: the body in > pleasure, the body in pain, the ailing body, the invaded body, etc. > Since this is creative nonfiction, the reading examples need to be > first person-y autobiographical-ish. Formal innovation won't be > stressed, but won't be ignored either. I'm particularly interested > in maintaining a cultural and racial range. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks. > > Dodie ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:10:51 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harriet Zinnes Subject: Re: Announcements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perhaps I am on your list == not sure. Anyway, Harriet Zinnes, 25 West 54 Street, NY NY 10019. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:47:32 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Arielle C. Greenberg" Subject: email addresses? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone have email addresses for the following fiction writers (sorry to cross genres!)? Rick Moody Shelia Kohler Heidi Julovits Joy Williams Matthew Derby Please backchannel. Thanks! Arielle **************************************************************************** "I thought numerous gorgeous sadists would write me plaintive appeals, but time has gone by me. They know where to get better looking boots than I describe." -- Ray Johnson ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:50:35 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Stefans, Brian" Subject: Email Addresses MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Does anyone have Garrett Caples email address? Brian ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 11:40:28 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Andrew Epstein Subject: Lorenzo Thomas/Joshua Clover reading (NY, 11/14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Columbia University's F. W. Dupee Poetry Reading Series presents LORENZO THOMAS and JOSHUA CLOVER Tuesday, November 14, 8 pm Ward Dennis Room Lewisohn Hall, 5th Floor Columbia University 116th St. and Broadway Admission Free Reception to follow the reading for information: (212) 854-5121; ukh2@columbia.edu LORENZO THOMAS is the author of numerous collections of poetry, including A Visible Island, Chances are Few, and The Bathers, as well as the recently published critical study, Extraordinary Measures: Afrocentric Modernism and 20th-Century American Poetry. JOSHUA CLOVER's first book, Madonna Anno Domini, was the winner of the 1996 Walt Whitman Award of the Academy of American Poets, and his poems have appeared in literary magazines such as New American Writing, American Poetry Review, Iowa Review, Threepenny Review, and Volt. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:26:09 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rebecca Wolff Subject: ps 1 announcement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable P.S.1 Contemporary Art Center NEWS: Sunday, November 5th, 2000 3pm Special Project Artists and Writers Public Dialogue As a new aspect of P.S.1 Contemporary Art Center's dynamic Special Projects Program, critical and creative writers are welcomed to contribute their responses to the work. Texts are posted at www.ps1.org and made available in the galleries. Today, join artists from the Fall cycle of the Special Projects Haluk Aca=E7ke, Marc Lester Yu, and Slater Bradley and writers Saul Anton, Tan Lin and Jay Batlle in a moderated discussion. =46REE P.S.1 Contemporary Art Center 22-25 Jackson Ave at 46th Ave Long Island City, NY 11101 718.784.2084 www.ps1.org =46, E to 23rd/Ely G to 21st/Van Alst 7 to 45th/Courthouse B61 to 21st street and Jackson Ave. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:26:07 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: shameless self-promotion/book for kids In-Reply-To: <1996157384.972658766@poetrywkrm3.lib.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" hi all, i've co-authored a book with Betsy Franco called _The Secret Life of Words: Poetry Exercises and Activities, Grades 3-6_. it features or mentions Charles Bernstein, bpNichol, Kamau Brathwaite, Susan Howe, Bernadette Mayer, the Oulipiens, Hannah Weiner, Larry Eigner, Langston Hughes, Bob Dylan, Ted Joans, Alan Sondheim, don marquis, Lewis Carol, and others. Available from Teaching Resource Center, PO Box 82777, San Diego CA 92138. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:27:39 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rebecca Wolff Subject: ps 1 announcement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Writers... We Want Your Essays! =46or P.S.1's Special Projects Program Year-round, P.S.1 Contemporary Art Center presents a series of works by emerging artists from around the world. The Special Projects Program showcases artists distinguished by the site-specific, process-oriented or audience-interactive nature of their work. Every 3 months, 4 new artists are given a studio on the 2nd floor at P.S.1 . This winter, the artists are Sharon Hayes and Andrea Geyer, John Pilson, Michael Rakowitz, Marc Lester Yu, and Haluk Acak=E7e. As a component to this Program, P.S.1 would like to invite writers to contribute essays. This writing project will be on-going, growing as more writers submit essays and changing as new artists are featured. The essays will be posted on P.S.1's web site at www.ps1.org and displayed in the galleries. Select writers will be invited to a Public Dialogue with the artists. Selected essays will hopefully be featured in a possible publication documenting the Special Projects Program. Writing possibilities include: o a critical essay on a (or several) Special Project artist(s) (specific to the piece(s) on view) o a creative essay as a reaction to a particular work of art on view in the Special Projects (short story, poem=8A) Submissions should consist of no more than 1 essay of no more than 750 words and a r=E9sum=E9, and will only be accepted via e-mail. Essays will b= e screened (negative reviews are not appropriate for this forum). The Winter Deadline is January 14th, 2001. All interested writers should contact and send submissions to Anthony Huberman at anthony@ps1.org t: 718.784.2084 ext.24 / f: 718.482.9454 Mailing Address: P.S.1 Contemporary Art Center 22-25 Jackson Ave. at 46th Ave. Long Island City, NY 11101 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:25:10 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Fiona Maazel Subject: don't forget to vote MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Look, I know it's evil to be sending this mail out to all you people, = but I am very worried about next week's election. And since I'll be out = all week canvassing voters unlikely to make it to the polls, I thought I = could also send this mail out to remind everyone to vote. (And vote for = Gore, I hope). My apologies if I'm offending anyone. Really.=20 __________________________________________________________________ * * * Gore-Lieberman Mail - October 30, 2000 * * * get wired in to the Gore-Lieberman campaign @ http://www.algore.com =20 "The American people face a big choice next week, between two very different paths for our future, with so much at stake - prosperity=20 itself is on the ballot." =20 "I want to take this nation forward, to extend our prosperity and=20 make sure it is shared by all - not just the few. If we make the=20 right choices, all families can do better. I am optimistic about how much we can change this country and make it better - if we make=20 the right choices" =20 Al Gore - October 30, 2000 =20 8 DAYS TO GO! PASS THIS EMAIL ALONG AND HELP AL GORE=20 WIN THE FIGHT FOR AMERICA'S WORKING FAMILIES _____________________________________________________________________ This is your chance to make a historic difference in what will=20 probably be the closest election in your entire lifetime. =20 We urgently need your help. The election will come down to which=20 campaign has more volunteers to get the vote out. In 1960, John F. Kennedy won by an average of ONE VOTE PER PRECINCT.=20 WITH JUST EIGHT DAYS LEFT, THERE CAN BE NO EXCUSES -- THIS ELECTION IS = TOO IMPORTANT TO SIT ON THE SIDELINES! GET INVOLVED! TAKE ACTION = TODAY! Here's what you can do: 1. Forward this email to everyone in your address book - and ask them to help get out the vote for Al Gore! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:50:44 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jumper Bloom Subject: RealPoetik + can we have our ball back? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hello, List-- I know a little something about www.canwehaveourballback.com, and I will say they also have nothing to do with SUNY Buffalo or the Poetics Program, although they are big fans of Doug Flutie. THX--Jumper _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:02:12 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: poem by jennifer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII - poem by jennifer if I will have a star i will not know where they are i will look at them through my glass and analyze the gas i will understand the clouds and vapors and atmospheric whirling capers but i will miss the this of what will exist very much across the chasm in the small where lives are that hold us all i will put my star chart on the shelf and it will be a thing in itself so are number and thought and star inert and there like the star man did not make the integers but uses them in heady weathers - ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:31:43 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Connie A Kirk Subject: Re: Announcements In-Reply-To: <000101c04289$b1b8b980$234d6520@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you; yes, I'd like a copy of your free newsletter. My work address is: Connie Kirk Languages & Literature Dept. Belknap Hall, Office #09 Mansfield University Mansfield, PA 16933 Thank you! -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of Debra Laser Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 4:54 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: [POETICS] Announcements If you are currently on our email list and would like to be on our regular mailing list (so you can receive a sample issue of The Poetry Project Newsletter for FREE), just reply to this email with your full name and address. Hope to hear from you soon!!! Debra Laser 14202 Manorvale Rd. Rockville, MD 20853 thank you! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:54:51 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Debra Laser Subject: Re: Announcements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone who wants a copy of The Poetry Project Newsletter had better respond to The Poetry Project, which was what I meant to do. If you contact them instead of me, your newsletter is certain to arrive much sooner. But hello to those of you who exchanged addresses with me! Debra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra Laser" To: Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 3:53 PM Subject: Re: Announcements > If you are currently on our email list and would like to be on our regular > mailing list (so you can receive a sample issue of The Poetry Project > Newsletter for FREE), just reply to this email with your full name and > address. Hope to hear from you soon!!! > > > Debra Laser > 14202 Manorvale Rd. > Rockville, MD 20853 > > thank you! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:41:24 +1000 Reply-To: k.zervos@mailbox.gu.edu.au Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Komninos Zervos Organization: Griffith University Subject: Re: Announcements In-Reply-To: <000101c04289$b1b8b980$234d6520@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT komninos zervos unit 8/218 marine parade, labrador queensland, 4215 australia > If you are currently on our email list and would like to be on our > regular mailing list (so you can receive a sample issue of The > Poetry Project Newsletter for FREE), just reply to this email with > your full name and address. Hope to hear from you soon!!! > > > Debra Laser > 14202 Manorvale Rd. > Rockville, MD 20853 > > thank you! komNinos zErvos cYberPoet lecTurer cyBerStudies SchOol of aRts griFfith uniVerSity GolD coaSt cAmpuS pmb 50 gold coast mail centre queensland 9726 tel +61 7 55 948872 http://student.uq.edu.au/~s271502 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 22:02:56 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Daniel Zimmerman Subject: Re: Announcements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Zimmerman 485 Parsonage Road Edison, NJ 08837 Thank you! ----- Original Message ----- From: Debra Laser To: Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 3:53 PM Subject: Re: Announcements > If you are currently on our email list and would like to be on our regular > mailing list (so you can receive a sample issue of The Poetry Project > Newsletter for FREE), just reply to this email with your full name and > address. Hope to hear from you soon!!! > > > Debra Laser > 14202 Manorvale Rd. > Rockville, MD 20853 > > thank you! > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:05:04 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Balestrieri, Peter" Subject: Re: Body Memoirs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Dodie, Not sure this fits but what about Theresa Hak Kyung Cha's Dictee? Best, Pete Balestrieri ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 07:27:18 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Romana Christina Huk Subject: Oxford Brookes Colloquium (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear moderators at the Listserv: As you know, I'm having trouble resetting my subscription, but I was hoping that in the meantime I might offer this up as a posting to the list. If I can't until subscribed again, that's fine; I just thought I'd try this way, given our hurry to get this very late call out, at last. Many thanks for your help in any case. Romana Huk ---------- Forwarded message -------- OXFORD BROOKES UNIVERSITY RESEARCH CENTRE FOR MODERN AND CONTEMPORARY POETRY CALL FOR PAPERS 3RD RESEARCH COLLOQUIUM, TO BE HELD ON APRIL 2-3, 2001 THE POLITICS OF PRESENCE: RE-READING THE WRITING SUBJECT IN "LIVE" AND ELECTRONIC PERFORMANCE, THEATRE AND FILM POETRY Following on from conferences that have considered related issues such as poetry and performance and poetry and the visual arts, this colloquium is designed to bring critics, theorists and practitioners working in a variety of media into a conversation focused on a specific question indirectly posed by new practices. Its purpose is to discuss the challenges that recent emphases on the performance of poetry have posed for both mainstream and avant-garde conceptions of the writing subject. Can performance be seen to foreground the "unique" subject again, despite postmodernism's suspicions about the "personal voice", by revealing the disembodied text's body - its peculiarly-located material and discursive "site" not fully theorised by abstract notions of the author-function in writing? Or does performance enhance an increasing awareness of the "performativity" of seemingly personal expression, particularly when dramatised or televised, given its helpless adherence to the symbols and extralinguistic codes (and costs) of culture? What exactly is the presence of the author-function in poetry? Can one perform and politicize a "unique" post-postmodern subject, which by new definitions might avoid abstractions in either the traditional or the avant-garde sense? How do differences of race and gender complicate the question? How does one (or should one) begin asking such a question of electronic poetry in performance? Is it possible to go through recent philosophy on the subject, to a working understanding of it in performances, as a palpable and unreproducible intersection between localised discourses, loyalties and limitations? We hope to go beyond simple expression of what it means to work in these various live and electronic performance modes to consider, collectively, such questions pertaining to lyric subjectivity and intercultural politics as they become redefined or redeployed in old forms through new media. We also hope to generate unprecedented discussion by inviting and welcoming papers from people working in very different critical and creative registers. Papers delivered will be collected in planned published proceedings. The colloquium is run under the auspices of the Research Centre for Modern and Contemporary Poetry within the Humanities Research Centre at Oxford Brookes. Staff working in the Centre include Vicki Bertram, Romana Huk, and Steven Matthews. Abstracts of proposed papers (of c.200 words) should reach Romana Huk, School of Humanities, Oxford Brookes University, Gypsy Lane, Oxford, OX3 0BP (email rchuk@brookes.ac.uk) by not later than 15th January 2001. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 02:31:22 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: J Kimball Subject: 2 Faux blasts Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit One... Fauxpress.com/e -- at -- a blast of a dozen original e-texts: Frank O'Hara & Tony Towle: Two Collaborations Brendan Lorber: Your Secret Jack Kimball: Nitric Oxide Drew Gardner: Ladies and Gentlemen...The Stars! Jordan Davis: Book of American Types Marcella Durand: Floored Ray DiPalma: Red House Sheila E. Murphy: Sentences Finished on the Other's Lips Peter Ganick: Ice Ed Foster: Saturnalia Poem by Nari: Randomatic Nada Gordon & Gary Sullivan: from Correspondence Two... If you're in Manhattan this Sunday, Nov 5, please come to a big Faux reading at Zinc, starting at (about) 6:47 pm. Scheduled readers are Tony Towle, Nada Gordon, Brendan Lorber, Drew Gardner, Jordan Davis, Gary Sullivan, Ed Foster, Marcella Durand, and Jack Kimball. (The Zinc Bar is at 90 W. Houston Street, between Thompson Street and LaGuardia Place.) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:05:01 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Prageeta Sharma Subject: Yves Charnet & Yunte Huang @ Ethan Cohen Fine Arts Nov. 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Friday, November 3rd, 7pm FRANCE AND CHINA READING Chinese poet Yunte Huang and French poet Yves Charnet will read from their work. Yunte Huang, author of SHI : A Radical Reading of Chinese Poetry (Roof, 1997), Transpacific Displacement (U. of California Press, forthcoming), and translator of Ezra Pound's Pisan Cantos in Chinese. Graduate of SUNY Buffalo's Poetics Program, Huang is now Assistant Professor of English at Harvard. Yves Charnet is the author of Proses du fils ( 1993), Rien, la vie ( 1994 ) and Coeur furieux ( 1998 ) published by La Table Ronde publishing house. @Ethan Cohen Fine Arts 37 Walker Street New York, New York 212-625-1250 Cosponsored with the Segue Foundation ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:20:37 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Elizabeth Treadwell Subject: Hejinian & McCarthy Nov. 10 at Small Press Traffic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all, emails from Small Press Traffic's new acct don't seem to be coming through to the list yet, yet another travail of moving to our fabulous new space, where Friday, November 10 at 7:30 PM Small Press Traffic presents readings by LYN HEJINIAN & PATTIE MCCARTHY Timken Lecture Hall Calif. College of Arts & Crafts 1111 Eighth Street, San Francisco (just off the intersection of 16th & Wisconsin) This event is cosponsored by Poets & Writers in honor of their 30th anniversary season, and we thank them for their continued support of our programs. Coming up later in the fall: Nov. 17 at 8PM: Rob Fitterman & Sianne Ngai Dec. 1 at 7:30PM: Ted Byrne & Summi Kaipa Dec. 8 at 7:30PM: Plays by Barbara Guest & Jan. 12, 2001 at 7:30, we'll open our spring series with Dorothy Trujillo Lusk & Rod Smith Our latest flyers are in the mail & I repeat all our new info below. Thanks. Elizabeth Treadwell Jackson, Director Small Press Traffic Literary Arts Center at CCAC 1111 Eighth Street San Francisco, California 94107 NEW PHONE: 415-551-9278 http://www.sptraffic.org NEW EMAIL: smallpress@ccac-art.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:38:12 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Elizabeth Treadwell Subject: Stephen Ellis/Mei-Mei Bersenbrugge Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Emails anyone? thx. ___________________________________________ Double Lucy Books & Outlet Magazine http://users.lanminds.com/dblelucy ___________________________________________ Elizabeth Treadwell http://users.lanminds.com/dblelucy/page2.html ___________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:13:08 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: levitsk@ATTGLOBAL.NET Subject: More Belladonna* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please visit the new (thanks to Jerrold Shiroma and D. Kirshenbaum) Belladonna* Website, with events/publications information http://www.theeastvillageeye.com/belladonna/ =20 and do note the early 6:30 time for the November 3 reading at Bluestockings, 172 Allen St in Manhattan: **Laura Mullen** and **Beth Murray** both in from out of town. =20 (ps for those w/ concern--plenty of time to make both this and poetry project's event that night--we ourselves are planning on going to both!) good to all, Rachel Levitsky =20 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:54:42 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jill Stengel Subject: 11/12--dienstfrey & ronk reading, san francisco MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit synapse: second sundays at blue bar --presents-- patricia dienstfrey and martha ronk november 12, 2000 2 p.m., $2 (goes to the readers) blue bar is at 501 broadway, at kearney, in sf enter thru black cat restaurant, same address Patricia Dienstfrey was born in Montreal and currently lives in Berkeley. Her most recent book of prose poetry is The Woman Without Experiences (Kelsey Street, 1995), winner of the America Award for Fiction. Love and Illustration (a+bend press, 2000) is her latest chapbook; and selected work appears in Moving Borders: Three Decades of Innovative Writing by Women, edited by Mary Margaret Sloan (Talisman House, 1997). Dienstfrey is a co-founder of Kelsey Street Press, publishers of non-mainstream short fiction and poetry by women for more than 25 years. Poet Martha Ronk is the author of several books, most recently Eyetrouble (Georgia University Press, 1998) and State of Mind (Sun & Moon, 1995). Her newest chapbook is Quotidian (a+bend press, 2000); earlier chapbooks include Allegories with the artist Tom Wudl (ML&NLF, Italy, 1998) and Emblems (Instress Press, 1998). Displeasures of the Table, a fictional memoir, is forthcoming from sun & Moon in 2000. Ronk lives in Los Angeles, where she is one of the editors of Littoral Books, a press dedicated to publishing experimental poetry; and she teaches English at Occidental College, specializing in Creative Writing and Shakespeare. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:59:02 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Chicago Review Subject: CHICAGO REVIEW Reading 11/7/00 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" CHICAGO REVIEW celebrates the publication of CHICAGO REVIEW 46:3&4 NEW POLISH WRITING (1989-2000) with readings by * NATASZA GOERKE RYSZARD KRYNICKI PIOTR SOMMER * TUESDAY NOVEMBER 7, 2000 7:30 pm $5 / $3 for students CHOPIN THEATRE 1543 West Division Street, Chicago IL (773/287.1500) Natasza Goerke (b. 1960) has published three books of short prose characterized by narrative experiment, absurdist humor, and her engagement with Tibetan Buddhism. Her most recent book is (Czarne, 1999). A selection of her work in English is forthcoming as from Twisted Spoon Press (Prague, 2001). Ryszard Krynicki (b. 1943) was a key figure of the "Generation of '68," and was blacklisted from official publications from 1975 until the fall of communism. In addition to his work as a poet and, more recently, as a publisher of poetry, he is an acclaimed translator of Paul Celan, with whom his own poetry shares an intensity of attention to language. His work will be read in English by his translator, Clare Cavanagh. Piotr Sommer (b. 1948) is a poet, Editor-in-Chief of the magazine (World Literature), and a key translator of American and British poets, including Frank O'Hara, John Ashbery, Seamus Heaney, and Charles Reznikoff. His most recent book, , was published last year. A selection of his work in English translation is available as (Bloodaxe, 1991). * * * CHICAGO REVIEW 46:3&4, "New Polish Writing," provides the first panoramic portrait in English translation of contemporary Polish writing, which is considered by many to be the most exciting and diverse literature in the new Europe. This 400-page anthology, which is the first and most comprehensive survey in English of Polish writing since the end of Communist rule, includes material from several generations of authors in a range of genres. Poems, stories, novel excerpts, feuilletons, reportage, criticism, and polemicism by more than seventy-five writers are translated in this issue. This issue provides American readers with an indispensable introduction to a lively literary culture, and promises to influence the reception of Polish writing in English translation for some years to come. * * * CHICAGO REVIEW was founded in 1946 at the University of Chicago, and in its 54-year history has produced several special issues of foreign literature in translation, including (1967), (1978), (1992), (1993). It has become an important venue for contemporary American writing as well, publishing issues on (1997), and several general issues that demonstrate a "commitment to diversity, along with an editorial insistence on provocative, engaging writing, [that] distinguishes it from many other literary publications in circulation today" ().If you don't find CHICAGO REVIEW at your local bookshop, you may wish to consider ordering copies directly for $8.00 each plus shipping. Please visit our website at http://humanities.uchicago.edu/review for more information on how to subscribe to CHICAGO REVIEW and on our past issues. -------------------------- CHICAGO REVIEW 5801 South Kenwood Avenue Chicago IL 60637 http://humanities.uchicago.edu/review/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:05:05 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jill Stengel Subject: additional info re: nov 12 reading and more MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Friends, Colleagues, Friendly Strangers, and Other Recipients of This=20 Mailing, It is with mixed emotions of joy and sadness that I make the announcement=20 that this is the final reading I will host at Blue Bar. Additionally, this=20 marks the closure of the a+bend press small books series. The reading season for Synapse: Second Sundays at BlueBar traditionally ends= =20 with the November reading. January 2001 will begin the next reading season;=20 and the series will continue under the new co-curatorship of Mary Burger and= =20 Beth Murray, two local poets with a variety of interests and talents, and=20 lots of good ideas. Here is a little information about them, to serve as a=20 brief introduction: Mary Burger is the editor of Second Story Books, featuring cross-genre works= =20 involving innovative narrative, and Narrativity (http:=20 //www.sfsu.edu/~newlit/narrativity/), a critical forum for writers of=20 experimental narrative. Her books include Bleeding Optimist (Xurban Press),=20 Nature=E2=80=99s Maw Gives and Gives (Duration Press), and Thin Straw That I= Suck=20 Life Through (Melodeon). She lives in Oakland. Beth Murray lives in Oakland where she co-edits Lucinda and The San Jose=20 Manual of Style, both with David Larsen. Her books are Hope Eternity Seen on= =20 the Hip of a Rabbit (a+bend press), 12 Horrors (Belladonna Books/Boog=20 Literature), Spell (Lucinda), and Into the Salt (Lucinda). She has an MFA in= =20 photography and performance from the University of Illinois-Chicago. I hope you will continue to attend their new series with the same regularity= =20 and enthusiasm you have attended mine, and I also hope to see you at the=20 final Synapse: Second Sundays at BlueBar reading on November 12. This series has been a wonderful experience, a wonderful array of=20 experiences, and I will miss this happy event that has punctuated so many=20 months. It has been fun, enriching, and inspiring to work with the authors=20 and their manuscripts, meet people at readings, correspond with those=20 interested in the series, promote small press poetry and publishing, and so=20 much more. I will miss my involvement with the series and the writing=20 community--I hope to hear from you while I am on hiatus. My hiatus, and my joy amidst the sadness of leaving the series, is due to th= e=20 expected arrival of my first child in early 2001. I plan to begin publishing= =20 a new (currently undetermined) a+bend press project later in 2001--if you= =E2=80=99re=20 interested, you can watch for details at the a+bend press website, located a= t=20 http://www.durationpress.com/abend/index.html. Thank you for your continued support and interest in poetry and small press=20 publishing, and thank you for all the wonderful times at BlueBar. Sincerely, Jill Stengel ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:46:59 MST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark DuCharme Subject: contact info needed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi Everyone, I need current contact info for the following people: Bernadette Mayer Tim Davis Kevin Davies Gabriel Gudding Kristin Prevallet Suzie Timmons Jeff Clark Clark Coolidge Harry Mathews E-mail addresses preferred. Please backchannel. Thanks in advance, Mark DuCharme _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 04:16:09 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: CDROM version 2.5 Comments: To: "Sub^2*P" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII - CDROM version 2.5 During the past few days, I have brought the cdrom up to version 2.5. There are a number of new soundworks and videos on it, as well as updated text files and probably two dozen new images. Some of the material is reorganized as well. The soundworks include several shamisen pieces, including one one with voice. The Talan Memmott flashwork (mobile phone piece) is also on it, among several other collaborations. The sound files are mp3 and wav; the video files are mostly avi. All of the material runs on a variety of media. I've been told that the html files work as well if the folder is moved to the Mac hard drive; everything runs on pcs. If you're interested in obtaining this version, and you have a much older (say 2.4 or earlier), send $10 and I'll send you one; otherwise, it's the usual $14. I apologize (constantly) for asking money for the disks, but they cost me, and are really the only way I can get my work around. The cdrom has collected work from 1994-2000, as well as articles from the 80s and even some earlier pieces. The file below is the original advertisement, now updated - Alan ARCHIVE (previously SUB/CON/TEXT version 2.06) CDROM 2.5 Available: COLLECTED WORK, 1994-2000 Alan Sondheim I've been working non-stop on putting as much of my work (dealing with literature, psychology, cyberspace, language, sexuality, body, etc.) on one cdrom. The result is Archive (which also includes collaborations with Foofwa d'Imobilite, Barry Smylie, Reiner Strasser, Annie Abrahams, Talan Memmott, and Azure Carter), available now. Archive is an enormous mass of material - some of which is available on my website, but most of which will be new to you. The advantage of the cdrom, in any case, is that you can explore it at your leisure, copy out texts and graphics, etc. It's relatively easy to use - you can access the various directories through a browser or any file browser such as Explorer. The cdrom was made on a PC, but because it is only files and directories, I imagine it will open on most Macs as well. Includes: 30 articles, outlines of 8 talks, 450 images (approx.), a number of music / sound tracks, the full Internet Text (approximately 3800 pages) and additional materials (revised The Case of the Real; Ma, a Novel), 7-8 webpage suites (including Water, Frac, Narcissistic Disturbance, etc.); approximately 19 video segments in .avi format and one also in .rm and .asf formats; and 61 tiny programs on basic, perl, or dialog. The sound should be playable on most machines; the video will open in various players as well. The texts are accessible through most browsers at cdrom\network\index.html . The websuites will open in almost any browser; some of them deliberately use proprietary or false tags html tags. The texts and articles are all in text-based ascii format, which means they're readable literally with anything; they're the core of the cdrom. There is a readme_1st.txt which acts as a guide. There is 'adult' material on the cdrom; please keep away from children. I'm asking $10 + $4 shipping and handling; this helps cover the costs of the burner, label, case, disk, and most important, the labor. Please send $14.00 in check, cash, or money order, with a return address, to Alan Sondheim 432 Dean Street Brooklyn, NY, USA 11217 Phone 718-857-3671 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:12:28 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Pam Brown Subject: Re: Announcements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Pam Brown 9/169 Victoria Road., Bellevue Hill NSW 2023 AUSTRALIA --- Debra Laser wrote: > If you are currently on our email list and would > like to be on our regular > mailing list (so you can receive a sample issue of > The Poetry Project > Newsletter for FREE), just reply to this email with > your full name and > address. Hope to hear from you soon!!! > > > Debra Laser > 14202 Manorvale Rd. > Rockville, MD 20853 > > thank you! ===== Web site/P.Brown - http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Workshop/7629/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:22:36 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: The Poetry Project Subject: Announcements Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable This week and next week at the Poetry Project: Friday, November 3rd at 8 pm EVERYBODY KNOWS EVERYTHING A Writing Workshop taught by Bernadette Mayer Poet, editor, publisher, and teacher Bernadette Mayer is the author of fifteen books, including The Golden Book of Words (1978), The Desires of Mothers to Please Others in Letters (1994), Proper Name and Other Stories, and her classic Midwinter Day, reissued by New Directions in 1999. One of the most influential teachers of contemporary writing, Ms. Mayer has taught innovative writing workshops at the New School, the Poetry Project, and Naropa University. This special workshop has been made possible by a generous grant from the Jerome Foundation. Admission to this workshop is $7= , $4 for students and seniors, and $3 for Poetry Project members. Monday, November 6th at 8 pm OPEN MIKE, sign up at 7:30 pm, reading starts at 8 pm. Wednesday, November 8th at 8 pm GRACE PALEY AND BRENDA COULTAS One of America=B9s best-loved writers, Grace Paley was the first-ever officia= l New York State Writer, named by Mario Cuomo in 1989. She is the author of three collections of short fiction and three collections of poetry. Ms. Paley has also been active for various social causes, from protests against the Vietnam War to demonstrations against the production of nuclear weapons= . At the Poetry Project, Ms. Paley will read from Begin Again (Farrar, Straus & Giroux), a collection of new and previously published poems, which are described by poet Adrienne Rich as "exuberant, heartbreaking, committed." Brenda Coultas, a former student of Anne Waldman and Allen Ginsberg, is the author of Boy Eye (Art Institute of Maryland, 2000), A Summer Newsreel (Second Story Press, 1999), and Early Films (Rodent Press, 1996). Her work has appeared in American Poetry Review, Fence, Epoch, The Hat, and other journals. Originally from Southern Indiana, she has lived in New York City since 1995.=20 Friday, November 10th at 10:30 pm THE HOUSE OF PERNOD In the collage tradition of the =B990=B9s, House of Pernod is a hybrid of funk, chaos, poetry, theater, and rock & roll. The band delivers "a unique and intoxicating energy," says Larry McDonald of Gil Scott Heron=B9s Amnesia Express. Joining them tonight is Detroit poet M.L. Liebler, D. Nurkse, Sean Thomas Dougherty, the editor of the Red Brick Review, and Noel Jones. Unless otherwise noted, admission to all events is $7, $4 for students and seniors, and $3 for Poetry Project members. Schedule is subject to change. The Poetry Project is located in St. Mark's Church at the corner of 2nd Avenue and 10th Street in Manhattan. The Poetry Project is wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. Please call (212) 674-0910 for more information or visit our Web site at http://www.poetryproject.com. * * * ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 11:02:42 +1100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: John Tranter Subject: Nice Jacket Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Courtney Williamson writes about Jacket magazine and interviews editor John Tranter on the Poets & Writers site at: http://www.pw.org/mag/williamson.htm ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 18:47:42 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Facts & Figures on Poverty (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE =20 Teams to End Poverty =20 (from the UNDP) =20 =20 FACTS AND FIGURES ON POVERTY=20 =20 A quarter of the world's population, 1.3 billion people, live in severe poverty... [acorbul1.gif] Nearly 800 million people do not get enough food, and about 500 million people are chronically malnourished. More than a third of children are malnourished. [acorbul1.gif] In industrial countries more than 100 million people live below the poverty line, more than 5 million people are homeless and 37 million are jobless. [acorbul1.gif] Of the world's 23 million people living with HIV/AIDS more than 93% live in developing countries. [acorbul1.gif] More than 840 million adults are illiterate - 538 million of them are women. [acorbul1.gif] Around 2 million children died as a result of armed conflict in the last decade. [acorbul1.gif] In developing countries 160 million pre-school children are underweight. [acorbul1.gif] 1.2 billion people live without access to safe drinking water. [acorbul1.gif] 110 million landmines lie undetonated in 68 countries. =20 Today's society has the resources to eradicate poverty... [acorbul1.gif] The net wealth of the 10 richest billionaires is $ 133 billion , more than 1.5 times the total national income of the least developed countries. [acorbul1.gif] The cost of eradicating poverty is 1% of global income. [acorbul1.gif] Effective debt relief to the 20 poorest countries would cost $ 5.5 billion - equivalent to the cost of building EuroDisney. [acorbul1.gif] Providing universal access to basic social services and transfers to alleviate income poverty would cost $ 80 billion, less than the net worth of the seven richest men in the world. [acorbul1.gif] Six countries can spend $ 700 million in nine days on dog and cat food. [acorbul1.gif] Today's world spend $ 92 billion on junkfood, $ 66 billion on cosmetics and nearly $ 800 billion in 1995 for defence expenditure. =20 Extreme poverty can be banished from the globe by early next century... [acorbul1.gif] The proportion of human kind living in poverty has fallen faster in the past 50 years than in the previous 500 years. [acorbul1.gif] Since 1960 child death rates in developing countries have more than halved, malnutrition rates have declined by almost a third, the proportion of children out of primary school has fallen from more than half to less than a quarter. [acorbul1.gif] Over the past three decades the population in developing countries with access to safe water almost doubled - from 36% to nearly 70%. [acorbul1.gif] The extension of basic immunisation over the past two decades has saved the lives of three million children. [acorbul1.gif] In 1960-93 average life expectancy increased by more than a third in developing countries. =20 Poverty is no longer inevitable and should thus no longer be tolerated. =20 [acorrule.gif] =20 Copyright =A91999 by the United Nations Development Programme ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:33:05 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "norikoshimada@telelineb" Subject: Closer than California MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="shift_jis" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd love to get back on the mailing list for the Poetry Project Newsletter: Can you stretch to Barcelona? I'd be very grateful. Tim Atkins Poeta Cabanyes 21 Principal 1 08004 Barcelona Spain either way, this mail is sent with thanks & best wishes Tim ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:20:21 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Nielsen, Aldon" Subject: Jeanne Lee Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yesterday's NY TIMES carries the sad news of Jeanne Lee's death at age 61. Lee was a legendary jazz vocalist who worked with members of Fluxus as well as with such jazz greats as Andrew Cyrille, Marion Brown, Carla Bley and Gunter Hampel. I've never forgotten the poetry of her performance at D.C. Space years ago in the company of Cyrille. " Subjects hinder talk." -- Emily Dickinson Aldon Lynn Nielsen Fletcher Jones Chair of Literature and Writing Loyola Marymount University 7900 Loyola Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90045-8215 (310) 338-3078 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 19:01:09 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: greg Subject: Ixnay 5 Highwire Reading Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" HIGHWIRE READINGS NOW AT LA TAZZA 108 Chestnut Street, Philadelphia in Old City between 2nd and Front Streets Every other Saturday @ 7:00 PM "Nothing gets me higher than a Highwire Reading!"-Buck Downs November 4 Ixnay 5 Release Celebrate Ixnay 5 by hearing Jena Osman, Frank Sherlock, and Kevin Varrone, who will read from g-point almanac?(Ixnay, 2000). November 18 Don Riggs and Wendy Kramer Don Riggs is the man behind many Philadelphia contemporary writers. Wendy Kramer reads from sculptures she makes out of found materials. December 2 Fran Ryan and Prageeta Sharma Fran Ryan is writing a book literally about the politics of labor and figuratively about Philadelphia trash workers. Prageeta Sharma's Bliss To Fill (Subpress, 2000) is one of the hottest selling books on the Subpress list. Don't miss her. December 16 Janet Mason and Anselm Berrigan Janet Mason will make you crack up laughing and send you home thinking. Anselm Berrigan is our holiday gift for you, our faithful followers. In place of our own commentary, enjoy our friend and colleague Mark Weisbrot's wise thoughts on the presidential election and the recent attack against Ralph Nader and the Green Party. A Vote for Nader is a Vote for. . . Democracy As the election nears, Ralph Nader has drawn attention from a media that had shown little prior interest in his candidacy. The reason: there is a slight possibility that Nader could take enough votes from Vice President Al Gore to throw the race to George W. Bush. For those who are concerned about this outcome, it helps to know that in most states-- 38 at last count-the presidential race is pretty much decided. So if you live in any of those states, you can vote for Nader without fear that it could contribute to a Bush presidency. That is the nature of our winner-take-all, electoral college system. What about the 12 states that could go either way? Gore campaigners have mounted a sizeable effort to convince Nader's supporters that "a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush." Some have gone further-- the New York Times has written two editorials denouncing Nader for running and telling him to get out of the race. "You gotta love these people," said Nader in an interview with Harper's magazine. "They think the American electoral process is a gated community." Ralph Nader is there to bust open the gates, as he has done throughout his career as the nation's most famous consumer advocate. His decades of dedicated work helped bring us the Freedom of Information Act, auto safety improvements, environmental regulation and other reforms that have saved millions of lives. Now he is trying to help bring us real democracy. And why not? If democracy is good enough for Yugoslavia or Peru, why not for America? While nobody steals elections here, our corporate elite does manage to buy most of the politicians that participate. This leaves the electorate to choose, all too often, between "two buttocks of the same fat gentleman," as Christopher Hitchens so eloquently described our ruling political parties. Ironically, Ralph Nader is the candidate of the Center, if we define that to be what most Americans support. Polls show that most Americans want universal health insurance, believe (correctly) that agreements like NAFTA have hurt American workers, do not want to increase military spending, and think that corporations have too much power. At least of these views would prevail if we had more democratic elections. Of course there are significant differences in rhetoric and even some substance between the major Presidential candidates. This will remain true so long as their parties have some different constituencies: the Democrats after all, still have unions, African-Americans, and women's organizations as part of their base of support. But politics is rife with unintended consequences. Where party allegiance is minimal and principles are as disposable as diapers, choosing the lesser among evils is not so simple as it appears. For example, a strong case can be made that President Clinton did more harm in his first term than George Bush senior would have done. His "welfare reform" worsened the plight of millions of poor women and children. Mr. Clinton also lobbied furiously to get the Democratic Congress of 1993 to pass NAFTA, breaking his campaign promise to labor and environmental groups that he would not support an agreement of this kind. His botched attempt at health care reform that would satisfy the big insurance companies set us back many years on this issue. And Clinton's record on civil liberties was also worse than that of his Republican predecessor. All this is not to argue that worse is better. But you do have to take into account that there are instances in which a Democratic president can get away with socially destructive policies that a Republican, facing opposition from traditional Democratic constituencies, would not. And there are a lot of issues on which Bush and Gore have the same awful agenda. For example, both will continue the "race to the bottom" in wages and environmental through global trade and commercial agreements. Both will persist in the failed "war on drugs" that has sent hundreds of thousands of people unnecessarily to prison. Both support increased military spending, including at least $60 billion on a Star Wars missile defense system. (Gore is somewhat more interventionist, and if we include the IMF and World Bank as part of US foreign policy, Gore could very well do more damage than Bush to the rest of the world). Given these uncertainties, a vote for Nader is more pragmatic than it may appear. His showing in this election may prove to be more important than the contest between the candidates of Big Money. Jesse Jackson is supporting the Democratic ticket, but when Ralph Nader appeared on his television show, he closed the interview with this advice to his audience: "Vote your interests and your dreams, not your fears." Mark Weisbrot Co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research 1015 18th Street NW, Suite 200 Washington, DC 20036 Phone (202) 293-5380 x228 Fax (202) 822-1199 (202) 333-6141 (home) www.cepr.net weisbrot@cepr.net ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 11:38:42 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Elizabeth Treadwell Subject: Nov. 10-- Lyn Hejinian & Pattie McCarthy at Small Press Traffic, SF Comments: To: WOM-PO@listserv.muohio.edu Comments: cc: Realpo@listbot.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Friday, November 10, 2000, at 7:30 p.m. LYN HEJINIAN & PATTIE MCCARTHY This event is coproduced with Poets & Writers in honor of their 30th Anniversary Season. We thank them for their continuing support of our programs! LYN HEJINIAN was born in the San Francisco Bay Area and lives in Berkeley. Published collections of her writing include Writing is An Aid to Memory, My Life, The Cell, and The Cold of Poetry. She is currently the co-director (with Travis Ortiz) of Atelos, a literary project commissioning and publishing cross-genre work by poets. Hejinian and Arkadii Dragomoshchenko wrote the script for Jacki Ochs' film "Letters Not About Love". Through her poetry, her editing and publishing work, her translations and criticism, her teaching and her example, Lyn Hejinian has done an extraordinary thing: through multiple re-shiftings and stepping back, back, back, she has created a whole new world, one in which we move now like almost-charged human beings. The new edition of her book might well be called, Your Life, because it and she have happened to us. We are pleased to present Pattie McCarthy, all the way from Brooklyn, to read with Lyn Hejinian. McCarthy is the author of two chapbooks (both 1998): Octaves, from ixnay press, and Choragus, from Potes & Poets. Sections of her long work, bk of (h)rs, have appeared in/on The East Village Web, Facture, Kenning, Outlet, Poets & Poems (on the St Marks Poetry Project website), The Washington Review, The Transcendental Friend, and elsewhere. With Kevin Varrone she edits BeautifulSwimmer Press. Hers is a thrilling new voice; and bk of (h)rs is a majestic, charming and incisive reconcoction of illuminated European religious documentary, albeit with a way-beyond-modern urban glare that stamps it American. Timken Lecture Hall California College of Arts and Crafts 1111 Eighth Street, San Francisco (just off the intersection of 16th & Wisconsin) $5 (free to SPT members & the CCAC community) Elizabeth Treadwell Jackson, Executive Director Small Press Traffic Literary Arts Center at CCAC 1111 Eighth Street San Francisco, California 94107 415/551-9278 http://www.sptraffic.org smallpress@ccac-art.edu For further information on our upcoming events, go directly to http://www.sptraffic.org/events/events.html And for reviews from the Fall 1999 issue of Traffic, go directly to http://www.sptraffic.org/Signals.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:53:40 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Clark D. Lunberry" Subject: hypertext poetry sites (query) Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I know of the Ubuweb site (www.ubuweb.com), but for the purposes of a class I'm teaching, I'm seeking out other such websites where poetry--work intended primarily to be read/seen on the internet, exploring at least in part innovations available by the medium--can be found. Any suggestions on where I might look? Clark Lunberry Milwaukee ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 12:36:59 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: .:3.767 (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII :. .:It has taken you 3.767 minutes to write. This text is multi-media. This is an image of this text. This is a video of this text. This text is a production. 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Consider the next element you will apply. .:: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 15:34:56 +0000 Reply-To: baratier@megsinet.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Baratier Organization: Pavement Saw Press Subject: Howdy Comments: To: pliki@mediaone.net, pinata@texas.net, paula@musicworksnw.org, pbhill@usaor.net, pseres@whitelightpictures.com, pkonys@en.com, pdevlin@compuserve.com, sycamore86@aol.com, wordwoman@sprintmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pavement Saw Press, one of the largest independent presses in Ohio has started a announcement list for all interested. Since we primarily publish authors first books as well as under-represented authors, this list will be informative and include newly published books, exclusive interviews with our authors, new poems, poems from the collection published, extended commentary on authors and author commentary, submission guidelines and deadlines for the journal, prize winner information, and reminders about other deadline dates. We expect to send less than one e-mail a month. No personal information is needed or asked for. Simply send an e-mail to mailto:pavementsaw-subscribe@listbot.com and a reply message will be sent. Reply to the message and you are on the list. The following was published in the last two months: Simon Perchik Hands Collected: The Books of Simon Perchik (Poems 1949-1999) 612 pgs Richard Blevins Fogbow Bridge: Selected Poems (1972-1999) 128 pgs Dana Curtis The Body's Response to Famine 80 pgs Issue #5 George Kalamaras (Feature) 80 pgs If you have questions, please e-mail me at baratier@megsinet.net Be well David Baratier, Editor, Pavement Saw Press http://pavementsaw.org ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 13:00:47 +1300 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "richard.tylr" Subject: Re: Young People Against Poetry reply O R T Smith-Malley MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John. And so they should. Poems is bloody dangress. Look at all them pop stars and all them drugs and all that bloody culture and bodies and sex and saliva! Uuugh.. We'll be 'avin komunists next. Good thing they done away wiv that Max fellow an 'all them Poisonous Pengins, any'ow. 'an That Max Stew-Malley started it all you know, mark my words,: bloody Red Fed.Bluddy pervert. Good riddance. Cleaner wirld. By the way it oviously it shoultnt be "splitty the Infinity" ... 'ooever 'eard of such a thing! Gor! i'll be blowed down like a bloomin' blowfly. (The problem is that the person coming understands what I do.) But, anyway, the less bloody P'potry the be'er. Its them Komunists y'know. Get wha' I mean? Watch it. Yours sinfaithfully, Olywn R. T. Smith-Malley. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tranter" To: Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 2:38 PM Subject: Young People Against Poetry > Who said young people these days don't care about poetry? > > From "The Australian" newspaper, Friday 20 October 2000: > > "A group calling itself Young People Against Poetry > protested outside the Brisbane Writers Festival yesterday, > declaring poetry frivolous and culturally divisive." > > Brisbane is a city in the northern Australian state of Queensland. > > - John Tranter, Jacket magazine ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 10:43:24 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Kirschenbaum Subject: Portable Boog Reader, instant NYC anthology, Pub party Comments: To: subsubpoetics@listbot.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 74 poets, 29 days. The Portable Boog Reader is an instant anthology of NYC poetry, with new work from Anselm Berrigan, Lee Ann Brown, Neal Climenhaga, Brenda Coultas, Jordan Davis, Katie Degentesh, Ethan Fugate, Laird Hunt, Lisa Jarnot, Richard Loranger, Eileen Myles, Julie Patton, Wanda Phipps, Chris Stroffolino, Edwin Torres, and John Wright, among others. "This is the Boog-iest book on the subject." --Lawrence Ferlinghetti Publication party Friday November 10, 6:30pm the C-Note, 157 Avenue C (10th St.) NYC $5 Featuring performances by: Edmund Berrigan Lee Ann Brown Ethan Fugate Sue Landers Brendan Lorber and music from Bionicfinger (bionicfinger.com, Stephan Smith (stephansmith.com), Sean Cole & Aaron Kiely, John Wright, and Magdalena Zurawski. 100 pages, perfect bound, with spot-color, glossy cover, featuring an Allen Ginsberg photograph of Lee Ann Brown. Available through spdbooks.org or direct from the publisher ($14 ppd). Boog Literature, 351 W.24th St., Suite 19E, NY, NY 10011-1510 booglit@theeastvillageeye.com (212) 206-8899 as ever, David Kirschenbaum, editor Boog Literature _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 14:07:06 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Nikuko tells the truth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII === Nikuko tells the truth "I haven't written anything in a long time, or, rather, I write daily. But it's not enough. I'm jealous of all of you pushing the boundaries of new media, university-connected, with the latest equipment available, help just around the corner. I'm jealous of beautiful moving things on the screen; my own Archive cdrom is clumsy, brute directory organization, as if the back-and-forth jump-start were sufficient. Minimalism and the work- load died out a long time ago, yet both of these are rampant in the piece. I'm jealous of collaborations; my miniscule perl or qbasic programs permit nothing. Looking at still images, reading lengthy broken - but not anima- ted or activated - texts, seems almost a waste of time, the dissection of a corpse (whose demise I announced decades ago). The tiny quicktime flics are still-born as well, almost invisible clumsy actions, as if the low bandwidth format were somehow still in vogue - instead of an indication of the poverty of the author. I can extrude neurosis, body, sexuality, out into the world through the most minimal of images - but without followup and the wonder of movement, everything is lost in poverty. I retreat in an attempt to argue that such poverty indeed carries the force of truth - but in fact, all it carries is emptiness, poor thinking, organization, and art in the face of capital and new media. I'm jealous of everyone who is able to go to new media conferences, meet up again and again with old friends, display their work. I want to be part of the community; I want people to see the life in my works, rise above the barrenness. Clearly this is ask- ing too much; my work courts death more than anything it seems, with de- pression coming in a close second. No one wants to read about depression or depressively, no matter how good the literary sense or theoretical work - it understandably goes for naught. I look at new media work and see brilliance and light and laughter and late-night meetings and discussions; I look at my own work and see programming ignorance, poverty, and the morgue. No wonder it's cast-off, cauterized, ignored; it's caught between literatures which clearly need not pay it attention, and multi-media - from which it is permanently and humorlessly estranged. This work no long- er stands on its own; it no longer has a place in the cultural world. It continues to be produced, only because of the addiction I bring to it, and it cannot last all that much longer, already lifeless and buried," said Nikuko, alone in that bar in that city. === ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:32:11 GMT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Hoa Nguyen Subject: American Rambler Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed ****New from Thorp Springs Press**** A M E R I C A N R A M B L E R by Dale Smith Alvar Nuñez Cabeza de Vaca traversed unknown lands in nine years. He was thirty-seven at the outset. In 1527 he left Cuba as treasurer of the ill-fated Narvaez expedition to Florida. Stranded on a makeshift raft, he was washed onto a Texas beach and saved by indigenous tribes there. That same year, Ferdinand was crowned King of Bohemia in Prague. Rome was sacked, leaving 4000 dead. Pope Clement VII was imprisoned in the Castel Sant’ Angelo. It was called by some the end of the renaissance. In AMERICAN RAMBLER, Smith weaves a narrative of encounter, submission and ultimately transformation on a continent as unknown to the Spanish castaways as they were alien to it. * Praise for AMERICAN RAMBLER "Heraclitean...the way back and the way down are the only still open." -- Diane di Prima "Beautiful! Phrasing, shape, cover, clarity, form, observation, information, words, generosity, a ‘Total Work’" -- Joanne Kyger "I loved everything about this book. The cover and illustrations by Philip Trussell are perfect. The opening..., (3-IV-99) and American Rambler so powerful...‘because there is a wilderness to change us’ takes us by the hand into the rest of this fine work. Terra Incognita superb." -- Lucia Berlin * AMERICAN RAMBLER is available through Small Press Distribution http://www.spdbooks.org/ or direct from Thorp Springs: 1400 Cullen Ave, Austin, Texas 78757. Illustrated by Philip Trussell 96 pp., $10 ISBN: 0-914476-00-9 Dale Smith lives in Austin, Texas, with his wife, the poet Hoa Nguyen. Together they edit Skanky Possum, a magazine of poetry and criticism. His work has appeared in Exquisite Corpse, First Intensity, Jacket, Sulfur and other small journals. (Please forgive cross postings). _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 17:59:49 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kristin Dykstra Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=F1_presents_tatiana_de_la_tierra_and_Roberto_L=F3pez?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We'd like to thank everyone for making our first season so successful. Please join us for some excellent poetry and prose by Tatiana and Bobby, and additional sabor latino from Ivette's Caribbean Catering. --------------------------- =F1 (ENYE) Poes=EDa y Cr=EDtica en la SUNY-B=FAfalo: A Non-Unilingual Series presents TATIANA DE LA TIERRA reading poems from What-You-Want Words & Celestial Bodies + ROBERTO LOPEZ reading from his novels Rosary Beads for a Bourgeois Whore &The Flower She Loves Best Thursday, November 9 8 p.m. Rust Belt Books 202 Allen St. (near Elmwood Ave.) Buffalo * Hors D'Oeuvres provided by Ivette's Caribbean Catering =F1 thanks the Butler Chair, Dept. of English at SUNY at Buffalo for sponsoring this event ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 22:52:04 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Killian Subject: 3 things to do Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, it's Kevin Killian. I went to this great reading the=20 other night here in San Francisco and want to recommend everyone buy=20 this one book, "Uncle Chen's Oriental Slapstick" by Chris Chen. It=20 is published by INCIDENTAL PRESS, PO Box 423058, San Francisco, CA=20 94142-3058 and it costs $6. The title makes it sound a bit silly but=20 it is not, I'm finding the book very provocative and stirring, one of=20 the best books of poetry I've read in quite a while. In person Chris=20 Chen is a tall well built fellow who might have been a bit nervous=20 reading through most of his book, I'm glad I sat in the front so I=20 could hear it all pretty well. In one dramatic section of the poem=20 he was assisted by Pamela Lu, who played the Narrator, while he=20 (Chris) played Buddha and Chris Daniels played Socrates. But mostly=20 it was just him. In other news I hope all of you bought the October issue of MS.=20 magazine. On the cover was my cousin Sarah Jones, a wonderful poet=20 slash performance artist slash Ruth Draper type who also stars in the=20 new Spike Lee movie "Bamboozled." She is amazing!!! New Yorkers who are free on Saturday afternoon November 18 should=20 head over downtown to 2nd and 2nd to see me in one of my greatest=20 performances in the revival of "Taking Back the Dolls" (1994) which=20 is part of the 2000 NY Lesbian & Gay Experimental Film Festival.=20 This is the tape for which (knowing I'd have to be having sex on=20 tape) I lost 30 lbs and then the shoot was delayed, yikes, and I must=20 have gained 10 lbs in the interim (but still I look pretty good) and=20 Cliff Hengst and I had sex while the director to reassure or inspire=20 us kept playing one song over and over again on loop You Only Live=20 Twice by Nancy Sinatra. It was the day Kurt Cobain died if I=20 remember correctly. Here are some details of this showing: The Third-Sexers An audacious program of film and video about Homosexuality, at the 14th Annual New York Lesbian and Gay Experimental Film Festival - MIX 2000 3-D glasses provided! Date Saturday, November 18 Time 4PM Place Anthology Film Archives, Courthouse Theater Second Street @ Second Avenue, New York City TRT 79:00 curated by Cecilia Dougherty MIX Festival 2000 Program information =46inding yourself a little too mainstreamed in the characters that=20 populate independent gay and lesbian features? Don=92t recognize your=20 friends and lovers in the wholesome glossy imagery? Our relentless=20 drive towards visibility seems to have given us more than we wanted,=20 as we leave the theater unfulfilled by the assimilated plastic people=20 who ostensibly represent us. Fortunately there=92re still a few=20 alienated outcasts who continue to make excellent creative and sexy=20 films and tapes, who eschew the plastic in favor of the pariah, and=20 who insist on a vision that=92s both wild and reality-based. Bypassing queer theory and inventing new dialogues, this work goes=20 back to the source -- to pre-liberation homosexual identity and all=20 the problems and imaginative solutions entertained therein. New=20 trajectories from the olden days to the present are provided: high=20 school quandaries, genuine Internet sex, identity vampires,=20 unfocussed glamour, and nostalgia without irony. The 5 films and=20 videos in this program describe contemporary queer reality in ways=20 that acknowledge the theories of academia, but also maintain that=20 each new generation remains completely at odds with the world=20 outside. Troubled youth, sexy beauty professionals, Parisian Internet=20 aficionados, and a love story from 1969. What are you waiting for? Screening order and tape descriptions Chisholm (Robby Abate, 1999, US, 10:00, 16mm, color, sound, 10 min.,=20 world premiere) High School graduation is a milestone of adolescence, and often the=20 point of no return for many who are rendered so completely clueless=20 about the next stage of their lives that they experience a cultural=20 and sexual free fall. The scene is a rented room in a motel. The film=20 takes place within the consciousness of adolescent homosexual=20 awareness, and represents the first stage in knowing who is the=20 sexual self, and what desire looks like. Oblivion (Tom Chomont, 1969, US, 16mm, color, silent, 4-1/2 min., vintage) An expertly edited blend of elements from both poetic and diary=20 modes, this is an erotic, passionate film that creates a shimmering=20 fantasy of love. The film induces a sense of "oblivion" or=20 forgetfulness as the exquisitely beautiful love object draws the=20 viewer into his own deeply personal and sexy world. Don=92t forget to=20 wear your 3-D glasses! Ritual (Tracey MacCullion, 2000, US, 16mm, b&w, sound, 8 min., world premier= e) Imagine the terror of discovering on one=92s own college campus a=20 kinship of bloodsucking students enraged by contagious enigmas of=20 sexual identity. The student body invades itself. It is made mad by=20 lust for death and longing to become the other. An experiment in=20 horror, it combines Dario Argento=92s brilliantly questionable=20 narrative logic and George Romero=92s exercises in psychologically=20 inspired camera work - and is an oblique homage to both. Come Softly (Robby Abate, 1999, US, video, color, sound, 11 min.,=20 world premiere) Constructed of footage from the Internet including Internet porn=20 newsgroups, live video conferencing, CNN and government sites, this=20 tape exploits the Internet with a voyeur=92s passion. It also analyzes=20 porn sites as a cultural site where a new kind of sexual alienation=20 is invented, and where one can experience total loss of intimacy.=20 This becomes a personal disaster, which is compared in scale to one=20 of the most destructive airplane crashes in history, TWA=92s Flight 800. Taking Back the Dolls (Leslie Singer, 1994, US, video, b&w, sound, 43=20 min., millennium premiere) A lesbian tale of high glamour, low camp, sex, drugs and supermodels.=20 Sound familiar? The story is inspired by the 1966 Jacqueline Susann=20 novel, Valley of the Dolls, and scripted from scenes in the novel,=20 from Vanity Fair magazine articles and other pop Americana. Finally=20 infused with heavy doses of lesbian and gay male sex, love and=20 psychodrama, Singer takes back the story - from Vanity Fair, drag=20 entrepreneurs and pop culture vultures, and re-places it in a=20 feminist homosexual context, where it belongs! Bios of film/video makers Robby Abate is a media artist from New Haven, Connecticut. He=20 graduated from the Massachusetts College of Art with a BFA in=20 Sculpture and New Media. Robby works in film, video and the Internet.=20 His work has been screened at independent and experimental venues in=20 Boston, Chicago and New York. Tom Chomont lives in New York, and has been making films since the=20 early 1960s. His films and tapes are both diaristic and trance=20 inducing. His work is deeply personal, crafted with amazing=20 tenderness, and filled with dense poetic imagery. Chomont is nothing=20 less than an icon. Tracey MacCullion is a filmmaker from Boston, Massachusetts who=20 studied film at the Massachusetts College of Art. Tracey has worked=20 extensively in Super 8 and is currently producing her third 16mm=20 film. Her 1998 film Gash was presented at the most recent Whitney=20 Biennial. Leslie Singer began her film career in the underground performance=20 and Super 8 art scene in San Francisco in the early 1980s. Films from=20 this period were screened recently in the Museum of Modern Art=92s "Big=20 as Life" series. Her video works have been screened internationally=20 at artist=92s spaces and in film and video festivals. She is co-founder=20 of Creative Capital, a non-profit organization for artists. HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 19:51:51 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Fiona Maazel Subject: RS READING MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Next Friday,=20 November 10th, Jorie Graham reads at the=20 Russian Samovar. 256 West 52nd St. (btwn 8th and Broadway) 7:00pm; $3.00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Some people seem to despise me for sending out these emails. Some people = don't. I am grateful to the latter and intimidated by the former. If = you'd like to be removed from this list, it can be done. If you've asked = a million times without any luck, I apologize.=20 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:10:15 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Stefans, Brian" Subject: Reflections on Cyberpoetry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There's a new little bit of mine on www.ubu.com that I'm rather keen = on. It's part of a collection of essays concerned with internet poetry to = be published in the Canadian journal Open Letter, edited by Darren Wershler-Henry. Other very interesting essays there by the likes of Wershler-Henry, Neil Hennessy, Loss Peque=F1o Glazier, damian lopes and = the mysterious "UbuEditor," among many others. Check it out. _____ from "Reflections on Cyberpoetry" A big fish, renowned in his small pond for the accuracy of his = stop-press information of literature, complains to me of a growing pococurantism. "Since the Language Poets came in, I can read nothing else. I have = finished Hejinian, and I do not know what to do." I suggested that the great = Russian was an admirer of Pushkin, and that he also might find that author = readable. "But Pushkin is a romantic; Hejinian is indeterminate." I reflected on = the aphorisms of My Life, but forbore to press the point, and I proposed It = Is Never Too Late to Mend. "But one cannot read the Europeans at all!" = While I was extracting the virtues of the proposition that Pushkin was not = European, while McCaffery is nearly a French post-structuralist, he added that he could no longer read any verse but cyberpoetry. It is assumed that cyberpoetry exists, though whether as a subset of = poetry or the larger sphere in which literature exists, we are not sure. It is assumed that cyberpoetry is nearly a school; that it almost = consists of certain theories; that its group or meta-groups of groups or groups = of meta-grouped groups of meta-practitioners will either revolutionize or demoralize or democratize poetry if their attack upon the book meets = with any success, even a smidgen. It is assumed that cyberpoetry is created = by people with hands, feet, and incomes, hence our paranoia. Cyberpoetry does not exist, and it is time that this preposterous = fiction followed the trace, the spectacle, the rhizome, the libidinal economy, = the paradigm, the sememe, phoneme, grapheme, little Miss Prision and the eighty-thousand North American progressive dadaists into oblivion. Why = not? _____ http://www.ubu.com/feature/papers/feature_ol.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:46:07 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Elizabeth Treadwell Subject: Outlet (7) call -- get ready for spring! Comments: cc: WOM-PO@listserv.muohio.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Outlet (7) Heroines=20 call for work =93I value fame almost as much as if I had been born a hero.=94 =20 =97Aphra Behn=20 ***** PLEASE NOTE: Submission postmark period: March 1 - May 15, 2001. = ***** (We will respond to all submissions by July 1, 2001 and the issue will appear shortly thereafter.)=20 For this issue we especially seek submissions of short appreciations of literary heroines (mostly meaning: historical female authors, but also literary characters) as well as new poetry/prose along =93heroic=94= =93themes=94.=20 =93...if it is said by those who deny us now that we have no past,=20 then we have to insist we have a past as deeply as we have a present=94=20 =97Erica Hunt, =93Notes for an Oppositional Poetics=94=20 =93She projects the icon out from herself (likes being the icon)...=94 =20 =97Rachel Blau DuPlessis, on HD=20 If you have a particular author you would like to write about please email the editors at dblelucy@lanminds.com to be sure that person has not already been spoken for. =93We double back=20 to form thoughts.=94=20 =97Rae Armantrout=20 =93Someone, I tell you,=20 will remember us.=94=20 =97Sappho=20 (trans. W. Barnstone) We encourage you to purchase (& read) a copy of Outlet (6) Stars or to peruse our website in order to get a sense of the type of work we seek. We are as always very open to hybrid genres. Outlet (7) Heroines Editor & Publisher: Elizabeth Treadwell Poetry Editor: Sarah Anne Cox Critical Prose Editor: Grace Lovelace Fictional Prose Editor: Carol Treadwell=20 Please address your submission to the appropriate editor and mail, at the appropriate time, with a SASE for reply, to: Outlet/Double Lucy Books P.O. Box 9013 Berkeley, California=20 94709 USA Thank you! We look forward to reading your work.=20 Outlet Magazine & Double Lucy Books, publisher also of the Lucille ephemera series, online at http://users.lanminds.com/dblelucy ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:24:30 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Chicago Review Subject: CHICAGO REVIEW Reading in NEW YORK 11/9/00 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" CHICAGO REVIEW, THE KOSCIUSZKO FOUNDATION, and THE CONSULATE GENERAL OF THE REPUBLIC OF POLAND invite you to celebrate the publication of NEW POLISH WRITING (1989-2000) [CHICAGO REVIEW 46:3&4] with readings by * NATASZA GOERKE RYSZARD KRYNICKI PIOTR SOMMER * THURSDAY NOVEMBER 9, 2000 7:00 pm 233 Madison Avenue at 37th Street New York, New York (Information/Reservations: please call the Kosciuszko Foundation office at 212.734.2130) * * * NATASZA GOERKE (b. 1960) has published three books of short prose characterized by narrative experiment, absurdist humor, and her engagement with Tibetan Buddhism. Her most recent book is (Czarne, 1999). A selection of her work in English is forthcoming as from Twisted Spoon Press (Prague, 2001). RYSZARD KRYNICKI (b. 1943) was a key figure of the "Generation of '68," and was blacklisted from official publications from 1975 until the fall of communism. In addition to his work as a poet and, more recently, as a publisher of poetry, he is an acclaimed translator of Paul Celan, with whom his own poetry shares an intensity of attention to language. PIOTR SOMMER (b. 1948) is a poet, Editor-in-Chief of the magazine (World Literature), and a key translator of American and British poets, including Frank O'Hara, John Ashbery, Seamus Heaney, and Charles Reznikoff. His most recent book, , was published last year. A selection of his work in English translation is available as (Bloodaxe, 1991). * * * CHICAGO REVIEW 46:3&4, "New Polish Writing," provides the first panoramic portrait in English translation of contemporary Polish writing, which is considered by many to be the most exciting and diverse literature in the new Europe. This 400-page anthology, which is the first and most comprehensive survey in English of Polish writing since the end of Communist rule, includes material from several generations of authors in a range of genres. Poems, stories, novel excerpts, feuilletons, reportage, criticism, and polemicism by more than seventy-five writers are translated in this issue. This issue provides English-language readers with an indispensable introduction to a lively literary culture. [Supported in part by a generous grant from The Kosciuszko Foundation: An American Center for Polish Culture] * * * CHICAGO REVIEW was founded in 1946 at the University of Chicago, and in its 54-year history has produced several special issues of foreign literature in translation, including (1967), (1978), (1992), (1993). It has become an important venue for contemporary American writing as well, publishing issues on (1997), and several general issues that demonstrate a "commitment to diversity, along with an editorial insistence on provocative, engaging writing, [that] distinguishes it from many other literary publications in circulation today" ().If you don't find CHICAGO REVIEW at your local bookshop, you may wish to consider ordering copies directly for $8.00 each plus shipping. Please visit our website at http://humanities.uchicago.edu/review for more information on how to subscribe to CHICAGO REVIEW and on our past issues. The Kosciuszko Foundation is dedicated to promoting educational and cultural exchanges between the United States and Poland and to increasing American understanding of Polish culture and history. Founded in 1925, on the eve of the 150th anniversary of Thaddeus Kosciuszko's enlistment in the American revolutionary cause, the Foundation is a national not-for-profit, nonpartisan, and nonsectarian organization. The Foundation's work reaches audiences throughout the United States, through its headquarters in New York City and its regional Chapters in Chicago, Denver, Houston, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Springfield (Massachusetts), and Buffalo, as well as through its National Advisory Council. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable modern times bookstore in san francisco has asked a+bend press to be the=20 indie press of the month for november! this multi-author reading and party will be the last a+bend press reading=20 until some time later in 2001. (as you already know, on november 12, the=20 press will host its final regular monthly reading as part of the series=20 synapse:second sundays at bluebar.) please come on by if you can...details below... thanks! Modern Times Bookstore 888 Valencia St. @ 20th San Francisco, CA 94110 (415) 282-9246 / www.mtbs.com Our Indie Press of the Month for November is a+ bend Saturday, November 18th @ 7:30 PM INDIE PRESS OF THE MONTH a+ bend press PARTY a+bend press is dedicated to publishing exploratory/experimental poetry, wit= h=20 an emphasis on women writers. The chapbooks provide an avenue for the=20 publication of experimental work, which is underrepresented in poetry=20 publishing. For nearly two years, a+bend press has been publishing its small= =20 books series, a collection of poetry chapbooks. Please join us for tonight= =E2=80=99s=20 celebration as it will be the last a+bend press event for some time: the=20 press is going on hiatus until some time in 2001, when it will return with a= n=20 exciting new project. Readers tonight will be Nicole Brodsky, Tisa Bryant,=20 Avery E.D. Burns, Kathleen Fraser, Beth Murray, Jono Schneider, and Jerrold=20 Shiroma. It will be a festive event with snacks and drinks as we celebrate=20 independent presses and the independent-minded people who are published by=20 these presses. For additional information regarding a+bend press visit their= =20 web site at http://www.durationpress.com/abend/index.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:44:13 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Wanda Phipps Subject: Music & Poetry at the Living Room Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey hope you can make this: The New York Underground Music & Poetry Festival Presents Tom Devaney with music by Ted Casterline Merry Fortune accompanied by Daniel Carter: sax Dee Pop: percussion & Wanda Phipps performing songs & poems with Joel Schlemowitz: guitar Hiroshi Noguchi: guitar Andrea Urist: drums 7:00 (sharp!) - 8:00 PM Friday, November 10, 2000 The Living Room 84 Stanton Street (at Allen just below Houston) for info. 212-533-7237 and it's free too! check out schedule for the rest of the festival at www.nycundergroundfest.org ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:37:29 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jonathan Skinner Subject: BERGVALL / MCGOVERN at STEEL BAR 11/11 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit STEEL BAR presents CAROLINE BERGVALL TAMMY MCGOVERN This Sat. 11/11, 8 PM TAMMY MCGOVERN's web based work some of which is in lume http://epc.buffalo.edu/ezines/lume/moment1 (or check out http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~tm22) will be gracing our space and CAROLINE BERGVALL will do some live writing / scandalize us with extraordinary behavior --maybe install a few texts check it out http://writing.upenn.edu/epc/authors/bergvall/ * "So, what is Performance Writing not? Is Performance Writing not writing? Is it writing which performs not writes? Is it not performance which writes? But then does writing not perform? And when does writing not perform? And what kind of not performance are we talking about? Is it not performance to write or is it not writing to not perform?" --This EVENT is made possible by generous funding from Gerard Bucher and the Melodia E. Jones Chair in French, Department of Modern Languages and Literatures ------------ STEEL BAR is: Suite 551 in the Tri-Main Center 2495 Main Street (entrance on Halbert), Buffalo, NY $3 Donation for all events CASH BAR For further info, you can email jskinner@acsu.buffalo.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:16:11 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Pritchett,Patrick" Subject: Re: Irina Ratushinskaya MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Wanted: for a paper I'm writing on women and prison literature, any reviews, essays, interviews with by or on Irina Ratushinskaya. Please backchannel. Thanks, Patrick Pritchett ppritchett@silverplume.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 07:59:18 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: ordering info In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" some of you have contacted me back-channel about ordering _The Secret Life of Words_. It costs $18.95, and the 800 for Teacihng Resource Center is: 1-800-833-3389 Thanks to all who have expressed interest in this book! bests, md ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 08:02:27 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: body memoirs In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" how about Annie Ernaux's Cleaned Out? or King Solomon's Song of Songs? At 3:44 PM -0700 10/27/00, Dodie Bellamy wrote: >Since you've all been so helpful with teaching ideas, here's another >class I'm planning that I'd welcome suggestions for. The course is a >grad level creative nonfiction workshop. Previous creative >nonfiction workshops have been taught with a thematic focus, so >following that lead, I've decided to focus on writing about the body. >I'll give some writing exercises focused around body stuff, which are >optional to people who'd prefer to work on ongoing projects. I also >want to do some body-centered reading. Ideas I have are David >Wojnarowicz, Frantz Fanon, and the anorexia/bulimia memoir Wasted. >Actually, many things come to mind, but I'd welcome suggestions. I'd >like to look at a range of writings about the body: the body in >pleasure, the body in pain, the ailing body, the invaded body, etc. >Since this is creative nonfiction, the reading examples need to be >first person-y autobiographical-ish. Formal innovation won't be >stressed, but won't be ignored either. I'm particularly interested >in maintaining a cultural and racial range. > >Any ideas? > >Thanks. > >Dodie ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:31:59 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: IxnayPress@AOL.COM Subject: ixnay #5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ixnay press proudly announces the release of ixnay # 5, chock full o' poems by: Jules Boykoff / Jen Hofer / Jena Osman / Patrick F. Durgin / Frank Sherlock / Peter O'Leary / W.B. Keckler / Lee Riley-Hammer / Kyle Conner / Michael Magee / Diana Rickard / rob mclennan / Mel Nichols / Edward Mycue / Lisa Jarnot co-starring: Brendan Lorber on Buck Downs's Marijuana Soft Drink & Seth Frechie on Toby Olson's Human Nature & featuring cover art by special guest-star Brian Lucas all this for only $5 (check made out to Chris McCreary or Jenn McCreary) order extra copies! & give the gift of ixnay this holiday season... (gift orders include tasteful non-denominational holiday card.) your editors, Chris & Jenn McC ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 14:27:00 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: owner-realpoetik@SCN.ORG Subject: RealPoetik More material on America's best known rumor. Nice poem, too. Dancing Bear lives in the San Jose, CA. His poems have appeared in hundreds of publications with work forthcoming in: Rattle; Clay Palm Review; Yefief, Buckle&, and New York Quarterly. He is Editor-In-Chief of Disquieting Muses (disquietingmuses.com). Dancing Bear is the host of a weekly poetry show "Out of Our Minds" for listener supported KKUP 91.5 FM in Cupertino, CA. Election Night Flashback She sits behinds you in the back seat and plays with a flap of loose upholstery as you tell her you're sorry, but it's for the best. You're a drunk and a discontented rich-boy who's only known how to spend daddy's money on fast highs. You explain as she sobs and stares out the window through another Texas night speeding by, how she's not to talk to anyone about it or your father will cut you off. Crossing fingers you hold the steering wheel and pray she appreciates the extra padding in the envelope. You don't love her, but you go with her to make sure she doesn't chicken-out-- that the job gets done. The doctor's an old friend of the family; he knows the value of discretion. You may be a drunk, but you believe _political_ suicide is a bigger sin. You can't marry a girl who out-snorts you, out-drinks you, yet doesn't take the pill. She's doesn't know from pillbox hats, couldn't carry YSL, looks terrible in pink, and gray. She's not First Lady material. Dancing Bear ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 22:42:43 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: owner-realpoetik@SCN.ORG Subject: RealPoetik Mike Topp More extremely peculiar material from Mike, who lives in NYC and can be reached at mike_topp@hotmail.com. DR. BLOODMONEY God is dangerous, reason God is dangerous We are all mutants Tomorrow will be less I’m on 14th St. and 1st Avenue Vat’s the qvestion? ----NURSERY SONGS THE IMPLANTS GAL I don’t care how dumb I be, Twenty fools will marry me; If twenty won’t, forty shall, I am my mother’s implants gal. SIEGFRIED AND ROY Siegfried and Roy Were two pretty men, They lay in bed ‘Till the clock struck ten: Then up starts Siegfried And looks at the sky, Oh! tiger-tamer Roy, The sun’s very high; You go before With the whip and the chair, And I will come after With a sore derriere. WHO GOES THERE? Who goes there? A day trader. What do you want? A glass of beer. Where is your money? I forgot. Then get lost, You drunken sot. THERE WAS AN OLD MAN There was an old man, And he had some crack, And that’s half; He put some in his pipe, And smoked it in the hall, And that’s all. AMERICAN BEAUTY Somewhere along the line, they get squashed down. Then something happens that promotes change. What is important is that I project an image of success at all times. I like to watch movies. Watching this movie about the unbearable beauty of a white plastic bag turning in the wind that arrives before a storm, I have an ideal in mind. Like a Greek ideal. There is an entire life behind things to see. Somehow. This afternoon I saw "American Beauty." I've seen Kevin Spacey several times before, but, well...I loved "American Beauty." It's good I'm sure. Though I'd never seen it before. Perhaps what I really need to do is quit my job or pump iron. It's something to think about. And I've already read "The Nature of Things." I'm really terribly tired, you know. Daily every day I must go through the discipline of overcoming unprofitable thinking, for I don't know why. But I do. "I do." Maybe from a metaphysical viewpoint I could. Frolicking has never been so depressing. Conspicuous consumption makes our love stronger. Gardening always takes a back seat to science. I know what I need: to understand the harmonious mind of God. So I can see where he went unharmoniously. See? There is so much seeing to do. And already today I'm so terribly tired. Note to self: Always get a contract when working with a dark, omnipotent power. What else could I do? I'm going to buy a CD which voices a healing, life-giving message! Or else a Barry Manilow CD. If only I had a CD player, I'd buy both. If only I had the money. You see, I'm not asking for anything to change, really. I just want to "see" as is. The movies will lead us out of despair by making us see. David Denby said something to that effect once. I read it in quotes. I think. Not certain. Couldn't be absolutely sure. This I know: I remember all my life. Raining down as cold I am. Shadows on the hills. Faces through windows. Crying in the night. It was just another. It was a foll, it was a fool, it could be alright now perhaps. I can't be making myself of your bat. Oh Mandy you gave me and you gave that keeps shaking I need it. I remember all my life. Raining down as cold I am. Shadows on the hills. Faces through windows. Crying in the night. It was just another. It was a foll, it was a fool, it could be alright now perhaps. I can't be making myself of your bat. Oh Mandy you gave me and you gave that keeps shaking I need it. Yesterday I was gone to make it. Oh Mandy you gave me and you gave that keeps shaking I need it. Oh Mandy you gave me and you gave that keeps shaking I need it it it. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Mike Topp ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:19:31 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: GasHeart@AOL.COM Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Philly=85=20theater,=20music,=20film=20says...vot?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?e=20tuesday....gore=20has=20GOTTA=20win,=20get=20out=20th?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?e=20vote!?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit vote tuesday....gore has GOTTA win, get out the vote! tomorrow! bring your friends, call a friend ....pennsylvania is a crucial swing state with a lot of electoral votes, and the philadelphia gore votes have to turn out to offset the rest of the state i saw gore speak yesterday in fairmount park at memorial hall, and i saw nader speak last week at the church at 21st and chestnut, and i really like what nader says, but it is so crucial for gore to win. the next president will appoint 3,4, or 5 supreme court justices, and this could shape the direction of our country for the next 40 years. gore is pro-choice, and bush is against abortion. roe v. wade would probably be overturned if bush wins, making abortion illegal. this would give rise to backstreet abortions where many innocent women will get hurt bush is totally representing the richest 1 percent of the population, and gore represents the middle class....bush would essentially eliminate progressive taxation, a windfall for the wealthiest of the wealthy, at the expense of the rest of us. bush is the embodiment of money/corporate greed buying political power, diverting the democratic process, away from the will of the people a lot of people have been talking about nadertrader.com, a website, dedicated to the idea that people in stated where the race is very close can vote for gore, while people in states where it is already decided can vote for nader, to try tpo get nader the 5 per cent he needs to get funded for the green party for next time (and to help build a third party for after the election). this website lists the current swing states. current swing states on their list are, wash., ore., minn., mich., iowa, ohio, pennsylvania, florida, tenn., west virginia, missouri, arkansas, new mexico, new hampshire, and maine....some other lists i've seen include illinois and indiana. washington, oregon and wisconsin have nader getting 11 or 12 percent.....these three states are also where the GOP is running an ad with nader in it... when i saw nader speak, he definitely looked like he will not be dropping out of the election at the last minute what will gore do for us? well, he seemed very sincere, that he is going to fight the big drug companies, to fight for the people. gore talked about the diversity of our country, respecting the various backgrounds of people, but then seeing the common humanity that binds us, and he emphasized the dignity of the individual.....this is code for a whole slew of things, like taking care of the needy. gore has a conscience, his dad, was one of the first to speak up against the vietnam war, and even though he was a senior senator, lost his senate seat because of taking this controversial position.....he comes from a background of standing up for what is right, even if it's risky politically. there are so many issues that effect millions of people, and the kind of a society we will have - campaign finace reform, a "bill of rights" for HMO subscribers, housing, the environment. but this is just a quick note to remind people to vote, and this time it's close, and important. remind your friends, bring friends with you to go vote, but actually go and vote! ask a neighbor where to go to vote! -josh p.s. for the similar reasons, klink in, santorum out for pennsylvania senate seat. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:40:58 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetics List Administration Subject: messages received or retrieved MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A small number of posts to the list from 2-3 November seem to have been misplaced; those fateful missives have just arrived at the administrative account, and will be released to the list this afternoon. Christopher W. Alexander poetics list moderator ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:36:19 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Pam Brown Subject: Calling Carolyn Burke MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello Poetics List, Does anyone have Carolyn Burke's current email address please ? Backchannel - p.brown@yahoo.com Thanks, Pamela ===== Web site/P.Brown - http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Workshop/7629/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 01:40:07 GMT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Ellis Subject: Nadir Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed A vote for Gore is a vote for the DLC, and a vote for the DLC is a vote for corporate America. Period. Lieberman is currently head of the DLC; both he and Gore - and Clinton, for that matter - were there at its inception in the mid-80s. The DLC is how corporate America makes Gore a lesser evil (yes, "they" think that way too, except rather than having to vote for a lesser evil, they are able to ameliorate a candidacy revolving around social justice via monies that are then used for ads that commend social justice as a priviledge rather than a right) - but anyway, corporate funding shoves centrist/right ideals down the throats of more traditional (laborite) Democrats whose moral fibre nevertheless doesn't restrict their desire for endless November victories. A vote for Gore is thus a vote that is extremely compromised; he isn't the lesser of two evils, he represents (and IS) the same evil. But folks will vote for Gore despite him and it (the vote) being compromised, because it's a compromise they feel they may have more control over than a vote for Bush, which is a vote for national collapse, covered by a lot of flag-waving. Bush, after all, is just the leering tatoo on the prophylactic covering the Big Machine of Cheney & Co. (& Daddy Dear ... ) Some DLC specifics - a 1991 DLC hob-knob with the likes of Philip Morris, Nabisco and AT&T board members in Cleveland was supported in part by a $50,000 "donation" by a top Ohio Republican (much to the chagrin of Howard Metzenbaum); at the time, Bill Grey, a Demmie from Pennie noted that the DLC's "stand" on affirmative action "sound[ed] a lot like David Duke." Through the 90s, traditional Demmies rejected DLC "New Democrat" policies as moving too far to the right, and, tho the constituency of the DLC narrowed, it didn't exhaust the power surge of that organization, wch, secure in its corporate funding, continued as a kind of elite secret society within the party; joining w/ republicans to shove NAFTA down the throats of the working class resulted in the electoral debacle of '94; the evident "failure" of "traditional Democratic values" (wch were media driven and absent) put the DLC in the party driver's seat, and they've been heading in an increasingly corporate-friendly direction ever since. So, where do these guys get their money? Ha ha. Bank One, Citigroup, Dow Chemical DuPont, GE, the Health Insurance Corporation of America, Merrill Lynch, Microsoft, Morgan Stanley,the National Ass'n of Mortgage Brokers, Occidental Petroleum, Raytheon, etc. Al & Joe's working class rhetoric is completely hollow. This needs to be said several times. Completely hollow. Completely. They are both go-boys from the Office at the Top, the Principles Office, out to wreck the constitution and calling it "moving forward." No one's saying what's on the horizon (a "better America"); it's all gesture and grand distraction, Xtian hope, piety and The Chair for anyone who says or does otherwise. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but it's more-than-obvious that this campaign is scripted from the top down. It isn't even close. Or it's too close to call. Fuck 'em; who cares? What to do. Keep pushing Nader, I guess, and hope for increasingly confrontational demonstrations against the WTO and all that. Scare tactics, like military roads, can work both ways. S _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 07:59:23 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michel Delville Subject: CFP: POETRY & MUSIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable POETRY & MUSIC : AN INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE University of Li=E8ge, Belgium -- April 1-4, 2001.=20 Guest speakers and readers will include Marjorie Perloff, Karen Mac = Cormack, Steve McCaffery and Ben Watson Designed to bring a broad range of writers, composers and scholars into = conversation, the conference will feature roundtable discussions, poetry = readings and performances, keynote lectures and workshops. Submissions = must represent innovative thought (either in the form of extending or = challenging current critical positions). Any interdisciplinary critical = approach may be employed provided it deals with the theoretical and = practical interrelationships between XXth century poetry and music.=20 Please send proposals (max. 500 words) for 20 minute talks by January = 15, 2001 to: Michel Delville, either via email to mdelville@ulg.ac.be or by post to = Michel Delville, English Dept, University of Li=E8ge, 3 Place Cockerill, = 4000 Li=E8ge, Belgium. Selected papers will be published. Michel Delville Centre Interuniversitaire de Po=E9tique Compar=E9e University of Li=E8ge 3, Place Cockerill 4000 Li=E8ge, Belgium ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 09:29:06 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Aaron Belz Subject: Re: don't forget to vote In-Reply-To: <007e01c042b0$255cf420$6d1bf7a5@fi> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Well as long as we're talking about Al Gore, here's a dandy screed-- http://www.observer.com/pages/frontpage5.asp > From: Fiona Maazel > Subject: don't forget to vote > > Look, I know it's evil to be sending this mail out to all you people, but I am > very worried about next week's election. And since I'll be out all week > canvassing voters unlikely to make it to the polls, I thought I could also > send this mail out to remind everyone to vote. (And vote for Gore, I hope). My > apologies if I'm offending anyone. Really. > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:15:08 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Baptiste Chirot Subject: Re: body memoirs Comments: To: tom bell In-Reply-To: <01d601c042aa$f9ab4ac0$737c0218@ruthfd1.tn.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII SUN AND STEEL by Mishima Yukio --dbchirot ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:18:50 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Baptiste Chirot Subject: Re: Announcements In-Reply-To: <009a01c042e7$20043880$2f7ebd18@win98> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII dave baptiste chirot 2515 N. Oakland #106 Milwaukee, WI 53211 USA ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:36:07 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Pritchett,Patrick" Subject: Re: body memoirs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dodie, One book you ought to look at, for an overview, that is, is Elaine Scarry's _The Body In Pain_. And you might want to wander into the wilds of medieval representations of the body, which are truly weird. Check out Julian of Norwich's _The Showings_ (aka Revelations of Divine Love), as well as the substantial recent literature on her, esp. by medieval scholar Nicholas Watson. Also, Sarah Beckwith's _Christ's Body_ is a brilliant examination of Margery Kempe and the way she used her "extreme" behavior to contest male authority. (Of course, there's Bob Gluck's book on MK, too). Gretel Ehrlich's _A Match to the Heart_ is an intriguing (though at times precious) account of surviving a lightning strike: a kind of resurrection narrative about learning to re-inhabit the body. Sounds like a great class! Patrick Pritchett ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 09:57:54 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Summi Kaipa Subject: INCIDENTAL PRESS releases books by Anne Frost and Chris Chen In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed INCIDENTAL PRESS, a collaborative endeavor between the coasts, releases two new chapbooks: ANNE FROST of hot-off-the-press Ceteris Paribus, an inquiry into the (em)bodies of the women modernists [covers are made with braille editions of Rosemary's Baby, stamped with the title, and bound with nuts and bolts.] CHRIS CHEN notorious for his up-and-running narrative of the far-har-har-east, Oriental Slaptick [with a limited edition color covers with foraged Asian comic book-esque pictures] Incidental Press' mission is to publish emerging writers who have had little or no exposure. Most manuscripts are solicited, though unsolicited manuscripts are welcome. Each book is $6. Make payable to Summi Kaipa. INCIDENTAL PRESS Summi Kaipa & Peter Neufeld PO Box 423058 San Francisco, CA 94142 For more information, please contact Summi Kaipa at summikaipa@earthlink.net. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:29:01 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Edward Foster Subject: Poetry/Translation Conference MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE The Biennual Conference for Contemporary Literary Translation will be held at the Stevens Institute of Technology in Hoboken, New Jersey, (one subway stop on the PATH from Manhattan) on 17-19 November 2000. Most of the conference involves sessions on translation theory and contemporary poetry, including special sessions on Portugese, Spanish, French, Romanian, Turkish, and Russian poetry in our time.=20 A great number of important contemporary poets (including, to select at random, Murat Nemet-Nejat, John High, Kristin Prevallet, Simon Pettet, Arkadii Dragomoschenko, Carmen Firan, Leonard Schwartz, Susan Nash Smith, Timothy Liu, Mustaf Ziyalan, David Curzon, Julia Kunina, Susan Clark, Burt Kimmelman, Zhang Er, Charles Cantalupo, Marcella Durand, Vadim Mesyats, and many others) will be participating together with some of the most celebrated translators working today.=20 Among participants are two of Russia's best younger poets, Alexandr Skidan (who is also the Russian translator of Paul Bowles) and Dmitry Golynko-Wolfson (who is widely known as a theorist of poetics as well as a poet). Keynote addresses will be delivered by Earl Jeffrey Richards of Wpperal University and Serge Gavronsky of Barnard College. There will be special readings Saturday evening by distingished senior poets Nina Cassian and Samuel Menashe. Registration for the conference is $15, but it will be WAIVED in cases of "hardship" (a category into almost any of us, in this case, might fit). We'd much rather that anyone attending save their $$$ to attend the Saturday evening dinner, which at $7.50 would be a bargain by any standard. Please plam to be there to meet and hear some terrific poems and translations and meet some wonderful people. If you need directions to the campus, please contact me at talismaned@aol.com and let me know if you want directions for driving or for taking the bus, the subway, or the ferry. =20 . . . FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 17th Registration: 3:00-5:00 p.m. 3rd floor hallway between Pierce and Kidde Tickets for dinner available Reception and Dinner: 5:30-7:30 p.m. Dinner available from the Cafeteria Seating in the Faculty Club, Howe Center Welcoming Remarks =20 . . . =20 SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 18th =20 Registration: 8:30 a.m.-5:00 p.m. 3rd floor hallway between Pierce and Kidde Sign-up sheet and tickets for dinner =20 Breakfast: 8:30-10:00 3rd floor Kidde =20 Session One: Renaissance (1) 9:30-11:00 a.m. Room: Kidde 370 John Pilsner (GSUC, CUNY) (Chair) Elizabeth Pallito (GSUC, CUNY): "'Oscuro il sole': Tullia d'Aragona's Sesti= na=20 LV and the Petrarchan Adynaton" Cyrus Moore (GSUC, CUNY): "Imitatio, Translatio, and Alonso de Ercilla's=20 Doloneia"=20 Marion Lignana Rosenberg (GSUC, CUNY): Readings from Torquato Tasso's Lezio= ne=20 on Giovanni della Casa's Sonnet, "Questa vita mortal" (c. 1574) =20 Session Two: Medieval (1)=20 9:30-11:00 a.m. Room: Kidde 380 Robert Hanning (Columbia University) (Chair) D.A. Monson (Kenyon College): "Andreas Capellanus and his Medieval=20 Translators: The Definition of Love" Joel Feimer (Mercy College): "Translation as Feminist Agenda: The Case of t= he=20 Medeas of Christine de Pizan?" Tracy A. Crouch (Stephen F. Austin State University): "Looking Back Through= =20 Orpheus and Eurydice: Language Theory and Translation in the English Middle= Ages" Christopher G. Nugent (University of Rochester): "Orm: An Important Middle= =20 English Failure" =20 Session Three: Contemporary Russian (1) 11:10 a.m.-12:40 p.m. Room: Kidde 370 Kristin Peterson (chair): "The Crowded Circle: Liudmila Petrushevskaia's=20 'Svoi krug'" Zarema Kumakhova: "Brodsky's Loyalty to Brodsky" Olia Prokopenko: "The Language or Irony: Translating the Ironic Poetry of= =20 Igor Irteniev" =20 Session Four: "Nations, Translations and Negotiations" 11:10 a.m.-12:40 p.m. Room: Kidde 371 Beverly J. Evans (State University of New York at Geneseo) (Chair) M. Victoria Guerin (United Nations): "Multilingualism at the United Nations= " Duane Kight (Haverford College): "Une Confiture de circulation: The Pitfall= s=20 of Mechanical Translation on the Web" Beverly J. Evans (SUNY, Geneseo): "Le Marketing" of Business French: Sellin= g=20 "le Fran=E7ais commercial" =20 Session Five: Contemporary Spanish 11:10 a.m.-12:40 p.m. Room: Kidde 380 Burt Kimmelman (New Jersey Institute of Technology) (Chair) Jason Weiss: translations of Supervielle and Futoransky Susan Smith Nash (University of Oklahoma): Translations from the Spanish an= d=20 Guarani G. L. Racz (Long Island University): "Rendering Salom's'Renais-sance' into= =20 American English Using Shakespearean Models" =20 Session Six: Medieval (2) 11:10 a.m.-12:40 p.m. Room: Kidde 381 Gale Sigal (Wake Forest University) (Chair) Teresa Kennedy (Mary Washington College): "Chaucer and Boccaccio: Translati= on=20 and Literary Context in the Troilus and Criseyde" R. Barton Palmer (Clemson University): "Making the Middle Ages Strange:=20 Translation for the Modern Reader" Raymond Cormier (Longwood College): "The Empire Re-Scripted or, When is a= =20 Translator Not A Traitor? (12th Century Scientific Translation as Illustra= ted in the Old=20 French Roman d'Eneas)" =20 Session Seven: Contemporary Russian (2) 12:50-2:20 p.m. Room: Kidde 370 Vitaly Chernetsky (Columbia University) (chair); Ekaterina Sukhanova (GSUC, CUNY): "Constructing a Target: Soviet-Era=20 Translations into English" Matvei Yankelevich (editor, Ugly Duckling Press): "Synonymity. Translating= =20 the OBERIU poets, Daniil Kharms & Alexander Vvedensky" Dmitry Golynko-Volfson (Russian Institute of Art History): Syncopations of= =20 Reality: Discrete Techniques of Writing in Russian and American Poetry" =20 Session Eight: Translation Theory and Practice (1) 12:50-2:20 p.m. Room: Kidde 371 Burt Kimmelman (New Jersey Institute of Technology) (chair) Susan Smith Nash (University of Oklahoma): "English Language Hegemonies on= =20 the Internet" William Martin (University of Chicago): "The Invisible Visible Art:=20 Typography as Translation" Helen Chau Hu (California State University): "Re-affirming Integrity in=20 Literary Translating" =20 =20 Session Nine: Contemporary Turkish 12:50-2:20 p.m. Room: Kidde 381 Simon Pettet (chair) Murat Nemet-Nejat: "Translating from Turkish to English" Mustafa Ziyala: "Translating from English to Turkish" =20 Session Ten: Travels with Deschamps: A Collaboration of Poets & Academics 12:50-2:20 p.m. Room: Kidde 380 Deborah Sinnreich-Levi (Stevens Institute of Technology) (chair): David Curzon (United Nations) Jeffrey Fiskin =20 Session Eleven: Contemporary Russian (3): Readings by Contemporary Poets fr= om=20 St. Petersburg 2:30-4:00 p.m. Room: Kidde 370 Vadim Mesyats (Russian/American Cultural Exchange Program) (chair) Arkadii Dragomoschenko (New York University) Dmitry Golynko-Volfson (Russian Institute of Art History; co-director,=20 Amplituda) Alexandr Skidan (co-director, Amplituda) Genya Turovsky =20 Session Twelve: Panel: Contemporary Portugese "Sound, Sense, and Sacrific= e:=20 Translating from the Portugese" 2:30-4:00 p.m. Room: Kidde 371 Alexis Levitin (SUNY, Plattsbugh) (chair) Jean Longland (Hispanic Society) Clifford E. Landers (New Jersey City University) =20 Session Thirteen: Translation Theory and Practice (2) 2:30-4:00 p.m. Room: Kidde 381 Chair: Bronwyn Mills (New York University) (chair) Christine Raguet-Bouvart (U. of Bordeaux): " From Colloquialisms to=20 Exoticism: The Problematics of Preconceptions in the Translation of Caribbean English into French" Ekaterina Sukhanova (GSUC, CUNY): "Doubles Ententes: Translating from Frenc= h=20 into English AND Russian" Julia Kunina Trubikhina (New York University): "'Cinemizing' Fiction: Lolit= a=20 the Screenplay, Lolita the Movie" =20 Session Fourteen: Contemporary Chinese 2:30-4:00 p.m. Room: Kidde 381 Edward Foster (Stevens Institute of Technology) (chair) Susan Clark (editor, Raddle Moon): "Constellating [hypertext] as Method in= =20 the Night Sky [deep screen] Chinese> English Poetry" Zhang Er: "Selective Translating and Its Effect across Cultures" Timothy Liu: Wang Ping's anthology =20 Session Fifteen: "Fake It or Leave It?: Translating Words that Resist Being= =20 'Englished'" Sponsored by The Literary Review 2:30-4:00 p.m. Room: Kidde 390 Rene Steinke (Fairleigh Dickinson University) (chair) Panelists: Paul Sohar, Matthew Flannery, Gary Racz ("Textbook Responses to Impasses in Translation"), William Zander =20 Session Sixteen: Contemporary Russian (4) 4:10-5:40 p.m. Kidde 370 John High (Long Island University) (chair): "Why We Made the Anthology the= =20 Way We Did" Julia Kunia Trubikhina (New York University): "Nathaniel Tarn in Russian=20 Translation" Alexandr Skidan: "Paul Bowles in Russian Translation" Andrey Gritsman: "Translating Mandelstam" =20 Session Seventeen: Renaissance (2) 4:10-5:40 p.m. Room: Kidde 380 Richard Sieburth (New York University) (chair): Reading and comments: "Seve= re=20 Sceve" Alita Kelley (Penn State University) "Two Translations of the Spanish Golde= n=20 Age: Andean Texts for Peninsular Readers" Sara Villa (GSUC, CUNY): "Translation theory from Cicero to the XV century = in=20 Spain" =20 Session Eighteen: Romanian: Readings of Contemporary Romanian Poetry 4:10-5:40 p.m. Room: Kidde 371 Leonard Schwartz (Bard College) (chair) Nina Cassian Carmen Firan (Romanian Consulate) Adrian Sangeorzan =20 Session Nineteen: Translation Theory and Practice (3) 4:10-5:40 p.m. Room: Kidde 380 Robin Hammerman (Drew University) (chair) Charles Cantalupo (Pennsylvania State University): "The African Language=20 Movement and Translation" Martin McKinsey (University of Virginia): "Crossing the Waters: Notes from = a=20 Collaboration" Animesh Rai (GSUC, CUNY): "Imperialism of the English Tongue: A Hindi and= =20 French Response" Ray Scheindlin (Jewish Theological Seminary):"The Distant Dove: Judah Halevi's Pilgrimage Poems" =20 Session Twenty: Plenary Session (1) 5:50-6:45 p.m.: 2nd floor lounge, Howe Center Earl Jeffrey Richards (Wuppertal University): "When Translation Is Not=20 Treason" Nina Cassian: Reading her works in Romanian and in her own translations int= o English =20 Dinner 6:45-8:00 p.m. Faculty Club, Howe Center =20 Session Twenty-One: Plenary Session (2) 8:00-9:00: 2nd floor lounge, Howe Center Serge Gavronsky (Barnard College): "Polygenesis, Power, and Sex" Samuel Menashe: Reading his works with his translator, Andrew Blom =20 =20 . . . =20 SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 19th =20 Registration: 8:30 a.m.-1:00 p.m. 3rd floor hallway between Pierce and Kidde Breakfast: 9:00-10:00 3rd floor Kidde =20 Session Twenty-Two: Translation Theory and Practice (4)=20 10:30 a.m.-12:00 p.m. Room: Pierce 216 Golda Werman (Hebrew University): "Latin and Yiddish" Ray Scheindlin (Jewish Theological Seminary): "Poems from the Q'ran" Susan Bernofsky (Bard College); "Luther's Translation of the Bible" =20 Session Twenty-Three: Contemporary Slovenian=20 10:30 a.m.-12:00 p.m. Room: Pierce 218 TBA =20 =20 Session Twenty-Four: Contemporary French: Working Notes Towards an Antholog= y=20 of Multi-cultural French Poetry 12:10-1:40 p.m. Room: Pierce 216 Kristin Prevallet (chair) Olivier Brossard (French Consulate) Marcella Durand =20 Session Twenty-Five: Bridging the Pacific 12:10-1:40 p.m. Room: Pierce 218 Reinhard Mayer (Skidmore College) (chair): "Evaluating Competing=20 Translations: 'Sincere Roguery and Deceitful Truth' in the Analects of Confucius" Keijiro Suga (Meiji University): "Being Omniphone in Japanese: On Some Rece= nt=20 Multi-Cultural Writings in Japan"=20 Shouhua Qi (Western Connecticut State University): "Triple Jeopardy: =20 Censoring and Self-Censoring in Writing and Translating Bridging the Pacifi= c" =20 Session Twenty-Six: Translation Theory and Practice (5)=20 12:10-1:40 p.m. Room: Pierce 220 Adam Sorkin (Penn State University) (chair): Paper and Reading: Target=20 Practice: Translating Without the Trace of the Original" Ekaterina Sukhanova (GSUC, CUNY): Constructing a Target: Soviet-Era=20 Translations into English" Monique Balbuena (University of California, Berkeley): "Minor Literatures a= nd=20 Major Laments: On a poem by Sadia Levy" =20 Session Twenty-Seven: Translation Theory and Practice (6), Discussion and= =20 Plans 1:50-3:00 p.m. Room: Pierce 220 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 00:52:59 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Camille Martin Subject: Lit City MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---------------------------------- * L * I * T * * * C * I * T * Y * ---------------------------------- is pleased to present a poetry reading featuring Kristin Prevallet and Hank Lazer 7:30 pm, Tuesday, November 14 Ellis Marsalis Jazz Studio New Orleans Center for the Creative Arts (NOCCA) 2800 Chartres (Bywater) New Orleans, LA ******************************* New York poet KRISTIN PREVALLET also writes essays and translates from the French. She is the author of _Perturbation, My Sister_ (First Intensity Press, 1997), in which she uses collages by Max Ernst as inspiration, and _Selections from the Parasite Poems_ (Barque Press, 1999). She works as a teacher in Brooklyn. Of _Perturbation, My Sister_, Anne Waldman says, "Transfigurations of the divine & perfunctory, a radical vision of Ernst's dramatic & exquisite corpse. Brava!" ******************************* For over twenty-five years, Alabama poet and literary critic HANK LAZER has published poetry in many of America's leading literary magazines and journals. Among his many books are _Doublespace_ (Segue, 1992), a collection of poems written in several deliberately conflicting styles, and _INTER(IR)RUPTIONS_ (Generator Press, 1992), a series of ten collage-poems which incorporates a wide range of layouts and materials, from baseball batting averages to critical theory, from fashion and interior design columns to research in neurophysiology. David Ignatow calls _Doublespace_ "a noble attempt to bridge the chasm between Language poetry and the traditional anecdotal and meditative poetry of the 'free form' mode." Susan Howe claims that the book "returns to unsettle American cultural inheritance." ******************************* This event is free and open to the public. A reception and booksigning will follow the reading. Books by Kristin Prevallet and Hank Lazer are available at Maple Street Book Shop, 7523 Maple St. Please support this local independent bookseller! For more information about Lit City, please contact Camille Martin at / (504) 861-8832. Lit City is a New Orleans-based 501(c)(3) non-profit organization. Your tax-deductible contributions are gratefully accepted. Checks payable to Lit City may be sent to Lit City / 7725 Cohn St. / New Orleans, LA 70118. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:38:57 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: derek beaulieu Subject: housepress - new chapbooks from Bok and Tipping MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit housepress is please to announce the release of 2 new chapbooks: Shrill - by Lindsay Tipping - Tipping is founder of Calgary's in grave ink magazine, and a member of both the filling Station editorial collective and PHU collective (see: http://www.ucalgary.ca/dkmatthi/phu ). she is currently teaching english in China. limited edition of 50 numbered copies. handbound with onion skin fly leaves and art-stock covers. $8.00 each. String Variables by Christian Bok - Bok is author of "Crystallography" (Coach House, 1994) past editor of SinOverTan magazine, and editor of the millenial "pataphysics issue of Open Letter with Darren Wershler-Henry limited edition of 60 handbound and numbered copies consisting of 2 chapbooks gathered with a paperband. co-published with CrO2 press. $8.00 each. for more information or to order copies, please contact: derek beaulieu housepress@home.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:08:50 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: samantha pinto Subject: Re: Philly… theater, music, film says...vote tuesday....gore has GOTTA win, get out the vote! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Josh, Thanks for the message. As another Philadelphian, I couldn't agree more. VOTE! -Samantha >From: GasHeart@AOL.COM >Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group >To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU >Subject: Philly… theater, music, film says...vote tuesday....gore has GOTTA >win, get out the vote! >Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:19:31 EST > >vote tuesday....gore has GOTTA win, get out the vote! > >tomorrow! > >bring your friends, call a friend ....pennsylvania is a crucial swing state >with a lot of electoral votes, and the philadelphia gore votes have to >turn >out to offset the rest of the state > >i saw gore speak yesterday in fairmount park at memorial hall, and i saw >nader speak last week at the church at 21st and chestnut, and i really like >what nader says, but it is so crucial for gore to win. the next president >will appoint 3,4, or 5 supreme court justices, and this could shape the >direction of our country for the next 40 years. > >gore is pro-choice, and bush is against abortion. roe v. wade would >probably >be overturned if bush wins, making abortion illegal. this would give rise >to >backstreet abortions where many innocent women will get hurt > >bush is totally representing the richest 1 percent of the population, and >gore represents the middle class....bush would essentially eliminate >progressive taxation, a windfall for the wealthiest of the wealthy, at the >expense of the rest of us. > >bush is the embodiment of money/corporate greed buying political power, >diverting the democratic process, away from the will of the people > >a lot of people have been talking about nadertrader.com, a website, >dedicated >to the idea that people in stated where the race is very close can vote for >gore, while people in states where it is already decided can vote for >nader, >to try tpo get nader the 5 per cent he needs to get funded for the green >party for next time (and to help build a third party for after the >election). >this website lists the current swing states. current swing states on their >list are, wash., ore., minn., mich., iowa, ohio, pennsylvania, florida, >tenn., west virginia, missouri, arkansas, new mexico, new hampshire, and >maine....some other lists i've seen include illinois and indiana. >washington, >oregon and wisconsin have nader getting 11 or 12 percent.....these three >states are also where the GOP is running an ad with nader in it... > >when i saw nader speak, he definitely looked like he will not be dropping >out >of the election at the last minute > >what will gore do for us? >well, he seemed very sincere, that he is going to fight the big drug >companies, to fight for the people. gore talked about the diversity of our >country, respecting the various backgrounds of people, but then seeing the >common humanity that binds us, and he emphasized the dignity of the >individual.....this is code for a whole slew of things, like taking care of >the needy. > >gore has a conscience, his dad, was one of the first to speak up against >the >vietnam war, and even though he was a senior senator, lost his senate seat >because of taking this controversial position.....he comes from a >background >of standing up for what is right, even if it's risky politically. > >there are so many issues that effect millions of people, and the kind of a >society we will have - campaign finace reform, a "bill of rights" for HMO >subscribers, housing, the environment. > >but this is just a quick note to remind people to vote, and this time it's >close, and important. > >remind your friends, bring friends with you to go vote, but actually go and >vote! >ask a neighbor where to go to vote! > >-josh > >p.s. for the similar reasons, klink in, santorum out for pennsylvania >senate >seat. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:23:19 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Summi Kaipa Subject: INTERLOPE is alive and kicking In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20001107094713.00b15a20@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hello Everybody! I know I've dropped off a bit on the poetics list in the last few months, but I've been busy making books and putting more issues of INTERLOPE magazine out into the world. For those of you who aren't familiar with INTERLOPE and for those of you whose memories might need a bit of a jog, INTERLOPE is a twice-a-year magazine dedicated to publishing innovative work by Asian American writers. Cover art, by Colleen Coover, is fantastically Japanese comic book-inspired . . . # 5, the All South Asian issue, hit the stands in August 2000. It features work by Mytili Jagannathan, Rafeeq Hasan, Amar Ravva, Kirthi Nath, and Prageeta Sharma. Otherwise, all other issues of INTERLOPE are back in print. #1 Tina Celona, Warren Liu, Hoa Nguyen & Amar Ravva #2 THE COSMOPOLITANS by Sianne Ngai & Brian Kim Stefans #3 Jessica Chiu, Sesshu Foster, Lee Herrick, Pamela Liu, & Ida Yoshinaga #4 Chris Chen, Linh Dinh, Alvin Lu, Sawako Nakayasu, Kirthi Nath, & Fred Wah All issues are now $5. Please make checks payable to Summi Kaipa. For further info, contact Summi Kaipa at summikaipa@earthlink.net. INTERLOPE Summi Kaipa PO Box 423058 San Francisco, CA 94142 Don't forget to check out the interview about INTERLOPE at Citysearch.com -- http://bayarea.citysearch.com/E/F/SFOCA/0000/16/62/4.html & the website (thanks to Jerrold Shiroma) -- http://www.durationpress.com/interlope/index.htm Thanks! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:56:15 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Funkhouser, Chris" Subject: new Newark Review available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Now available via http://www-ec.njit.edu/~newrev/v2s7 NEWARK REVIEW Vol. 2, set 7 AMIRI BARAKA: A Knower's Survey MARK ANTONY ROSSI: The Struggle For Minority Characterization In Modern American Theatre ELENOR LUONGO: to the god poseidon - a new apology in ancient form DIANE McCOLLEY: Just a few questions CAROL NOLDE: Civility; Kitchen Tables RICHARD LORANGER: A Simple Current; Poems For A Centralized Church; "3 Students, 1 Teacher, 5-Train"; Ground Sense; Filter Cigarette Sentences; Song Of Luna ERIN BURLEY: "And we have known other cities..."; Love and Death on the Electron Highway (An Ode for the Why (y) Generation, which of course comes after X) written with John Ritchey LAMONT B. STEPTOE: Blu-Ku #4; Contraband HARRY ROMAN: In the City; Tattoo; Prejudiced People; Dick and Jane; Walt Disney, and Me MIKE COSTANZO: Bunt MATTHEW SMITH: Transforming Design: Architects and Social Responsibility EUWARE OSAYANDE: Lowcoup Too; Doin' Time LEBRASHAWN TURMAN: Meditation JUBA DOWDELL: Lucero MICHAEL RUBY: My Early Childhood TEDDY HARRIS (collage), "2000 Arriving With Orders From Gary Graham" cover image BEN POLSKY image, STRANDS2000 background image Newark Review anagrams selected by Chris Funkhouser ***** NEWARK REVIEW VOLUME 2, set 8 CYBERTEXT ISSUE - will feature work by JOSE CHUA, DANIEL FERREIRA, BURT KIMMELMAN, BARRY JACKSON, HOLLI SCHORNO and others. Please send correspondence to Newark Review newrev@njit.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:26:13 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Safdie Joseph Subject: Poetic Recipes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" __________________ Why is there no poetry cookbook *anthology*? One is needed, and the need is urgent. Consequently, poets Nada Gordon, Kent Johnson, Hoa Nguyen, and Joe Safdie have set forth to edit a cookbook of recipes, culinary stories, and food poems. Our selections will be made on the basis of the overall quality and originality of the submissions, with special attention being given to the gastronomical charm of the recipes. About 50 poets, along with their recipes, anecdotes and poems, will be included. All proceeds (beyond printing and publishing costs) will be donated to Food and Water, a national political action organization/publisher that campaigns against toxic food technologies such as food irradiation, pesticides, and genetically modified organisms (GMO's). We think this could be quite a successful book -- and a dinner party, so to speak, gathered around a big table of poetic affection and filiation (well, sort of). It will certainly be an unusual and tasty project! The people we solicit will make up a majority of the contributors, but if you're interested in this project, please tell us so by replying to this e-mail address and we will send you the contributor guidelines as soon as they're formulated. (This will be a leisurely project, and we'll probably be collecting submissions through Thanksgiving of 2001). Yours in nourishment and delectation, Nada, Kent, Hoa and Joe _________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:40:36 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Broder, Michael" Subject: Ear Inn Listings--November/December 2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > The Ear Inn Readings > Saturdays at 3:00 > 326 Spring Street, west of Greenwich > New York City > > November 11 > Catherine Barnett, Katherine Greider, Patrick Martin, Amanda Schaffer > > November 18 > Mark Bibbins, Michael Heller, Herbert Scott > > November 25 > Thanksgiving--No Reading > > December 2 > World AIDS Day Reading Alfred Corn, Star Black, Richard Tayson, and others > December 9 > John Schertzer, Richard Silberg, Chris Stroffolino, Max Winter > > December 16 > Brenda Shaughnessy, Mark Wunderlich, TBA > > December 23 > Christmas Break--No Reading > > December 30 > New Year's Break--No Reading > > The Ear Inn Readings > > Martha Rhodes, Director > > Michael Broder, Curator > > Patrick Donnelly, Lisa Freedman, Kathleen E. Krause, Co-Curators > > For additional information contact Michael Broder (212) 802-1752 > > The Ear Inn is an historic pub located at 326 Spring Street, west of > Greenwich, in Manhattan. There has been a reading series in this space > for > decades. > > The Ear is one block north of Canal Street, a couple blocks west of > Hudson. > The closest trains are the 1-9 to Canal Street @ Varick, the A to Canal > Street @ Sixth Ave, or the C-E to Spring Street@ Sixth Ave. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:48:41 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tisa Bryant Subject: Re: body memoirs Comments: To: Maria Damon In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dodie, all: I'm thinking a lot about Jamaica Kincaid, her relationship to her body, her love of her own smell, from book to book. I think Lucy and At the Bottom of the River deal with this most, the awakening body, about to emigrate, to become post-. There is also a book called Smell, by Radhika Jha, which is all about the post-colonial body of a young Indian woman coming of age in Paris, having issues with her smell. She thinks she stinks; men think she's exotic. It's not a very well-written book, in my opinion, but raises some interesting questions that sharper minds with pens can take further. The French feminists, of course, Wittig, Cixous, etc. Aime Cesaire's Le Corps Perdu. Then the cyborg workers: Theresa DeLaurentis, Donna Haraway, and Bhanu Kapil Rider (published by Leroy just a few months ago!) Jeanette Winterson. Ginu Kamani's Junglee Girl collection of stories. When Fox Turns A Thousand, a novel by Larissa Lau. Shape and gender shifting. Fat? So! (collection of creative nonfiction). The Body in Pain, I believe is the title of the book. I can't remember the author, but I sent a copy to Rachel Levitsky last year. Rachel? Oh, wait, Scarry. Elaine Scarry? Somebody Scarry. Down Below, by Leonora Carrington. Amazing chronicle of body-brain disassociation and partial reunion. HOGG and Madman, by Samuel R. Delany. Tipping the Velvet, I think? Books on cutting? Some of Marci Blackman's work, or excerpts from her novel, Po Man's Child, could be instructive in this regard. > From: Maria Damon > Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group > Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 08:02:27 -0600 > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: body memoirs > > how about Annie Ernaux's Cleaned Out? > or King Solomon's Song of Songs? > > > At 3:44 PM -0700 10/27/00, Dodie Bellamy wrote: >> Since you've all been so helpful with teaching ideas, here's another >> class I'm planning that I'd welcome suggestions for. The course is a >> grad level creative nonfiction workshop. Previous creative >> nonfiction workshops have been taught with a thematic focus, so >> following that lead, I've decided to focus on writing about the body. >> I'll give some writing exercises focused around body stuff, which are >> optional to people who'd prefer to work on ongoing projects. I also >> want to do some body-centered reading. Ideas I have are David >> Wojnarowicz, Frantz Fanon, and the anorexia/bulimia memoir Wasted. >> Actually, many things come to mind, but I'd welcome suggestions. I'd >> like to look at a range of writings about the body: the body in >> pleasure, the body in pain, the ailing body, the invaded body, etc. >> Since this is creative nonfiction, the reading examples need to be >> first person-y autobiographical-ish. Formal innovation won't be >> stressed, but won't be ignored either. I'm particularly interested >> in maintaining a cultural and racial range. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Dodie > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 09:05:31 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rachel Blau DuPlessis Subject: Re: Niedecker panel forming (forward) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This might interest a number of younger poet-critics as well as myself. I have told Professor Girardi that I am forwarding it to the Poetics list. warmly, Rachel Blau DuPlessis (her letter begins here:) Judith Girardi wrote:Professor Du Plessis, I have been gathering a list of Niedecker critics and researchers in an > effort to organize a forum for scholarly discourse about the poet. > Currently, I am proposing a Niedecker panel for this year's ALA. > > The American Literature Association is holding their 2001 Annual > Conference in Cambridge Massachusettes. [www.americanliterature.org] The > conference consists of panels representing various Author Societies and is > now in its 12th year. To date there has been no ALA panel dedicated > exclusively to the work of Lorine Niedecker. > > I would like to propose such a panel for ALA's East Coast 2001 conference > which runs from May 24-May 27. If scholarly interest is high and this > panel gets accepted, then perhaps an Author Society and/or Newsletter will > follow. Let me know if you are interested in participating in such a panel > and whether or not this is an appropriate email address for contacting you. > Also, if you know of any parties who would like to be included, please > forward a contact point to me and I will send them information. > > For an overview and Call for Papers go to: > http://grad.cgu.edu/~girardij/webpage/ > > I look forward to hearing from you! > > Judith S. Girardi > Claremont Graduate University ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 11:50:19 CST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Patrick F. Durgin" Subject: Kenning Pre-Publication Announcement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Some news from Kenning HQ: 1) New address: 24 Norwood Avenue #3, Buffalo, NY 14222-2104. Please update your records and / or contact me (subscribers particularly) if you've moved. & remember to make any and all checks or m.o.s out to the editor, Patrick F. Durgin. 2) New issue: I'm recommending that you start placing pre-orders for the autumn / winter 2000-2001 issue (#9) of Kenning -- orders received after December 10th cannot be filled until mid-January. Due out in 3-4 weeks, this issue contains work by: Richard Kostelanetz, Liz Waldner, Jason Nelson, Matt Hart, Pattie McCarthy, Garrett Caples, Jocelyn Saidenberg, Thomas Evans, Michael Magee, Jeremy Day, Brent Cunningham, Juliana Spahr, Chris Chen, Dan Featherston, Laura Moriarty, Daniel Davidson, Alan Gilbert, and Kaia Sand. Send $6.00 / 1 copy of #9 or $12.00 / 2-issue subscription beginning with #9. 3) K. Silem Mohammad's chapbook, _hovercraft_, which makes up Kenning #8 is temporarily out-of-print. Due to continued interest, there will be a reprint in March to coincide with the release of Kenning's 10th issue. Pre-orders for the second printing of _hovercraft_ are also gladly accepted. 4) Speaking of the spring 2001 issue (#10), you can expect to find there new work by Amiri Baraka, Dodie Bellamy, Gregg Biglieri, Steve Carll & George Albon, Jen Hofer, Deborah Meadows, Oskar Pastior (trans. Rosmarie Waldrop), Nick Piombino, Stephen Ratcliffe, and many others. Why not subscribe? Thanks to all & stay tuned. Patrick www.durationpress.com/kenning _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:34:28 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: phenomenology MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII - phenomenology intranet net internet: the middle term as an intersecting node, mobile within the latter, and the phenomenological horizon within the former. model the internet on a sphere; there are no end-points, no dead-ends, no terminals. or rather, the terminals, dead-ends, end-points are thick like the irrationals on the continuum - everywhere across the globe. who, why, when, where, what, how: interrogatives which traditionally appear in relation to events within classical space time: where / when for example presuppose a discrete occurrence located within a cartesian grid. now _where_ is moot: everywhere and nowhere, tied to the ontology of data. _when_ is a stuttering legacy of routers which may or may not possess a discrete origin on the emission spread, dissemination. _who_ likewise, referencing one or many or a spread across individuals, often remains indeterminate; think of _doxa_ or the _they._ but think as well of _which,_ choosing among an already predetermined collectiv- ity, and the problematic of _which_ online. _what_ likewise presupposes a discrete _phenomenon,_ which may be class- ically described; _what_ on the net references, instead, a _weather_ with immersed observers, participants, or unknowns. _how_ stutters, like when, through microworlds, microprotocols and pro- grams. _how_ is a also a collectivity, based on heuristics, prompt-line and other commands, pathways through wires and atmospheres. _why_ is dependent in the first place, on first places, causes and ef- fects, interrogatives and answers fulfilling the gap left by the uplift of the question. _why_ works autonomically in the small, loses its reason in the large. how, what, why, when, where, who, lose their _face_ among the implicate order of the networked worldings. with the loss of the _face,_ language adjusts poorly to the real, physical, virtual, problematic, alter. think of the autonomic world or anorectic world, the symbolic cast as centrifugal residue against intermachinations of kernels, world into worlds, ontological identities transformed into epistemological equival- ences. think of intranet [ net [ internet, the series without beginning or end- ing at either end of these spectral disturbances. think of organization or articulation traveling the wires, mutually-adjusting protocols or agents. think of multiply-connected riemannian spheres. (as a concrete example - look at the _emission_ in relation to what has been traditionally a classical _election_ or _voting procedure_ in the united states - as if there were a clean and proper resolution at the end of what is, increasingly, a _mess._) -- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 12:55:51 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Elizabeth Treadwell Subject: Outlet (7) Survey Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, we want to publish excerpts and totals from the following survey in Outlet (7) Heroines, which will appear next summer. Please feel free to forward this to interested parties, and please return your answers to dblelucy@lanminds.com. There will be a prize for the most obscure. Thanks, The Editors Outlet (7) Survey 1. Who is your favorite obscure(d) female author (and why)? 2. Name 3 of your favorite female literary characters. 3. In which historical period would you prefer to be writing and living, if any? Thanks! ___________________________________________ Double Lucy Books & Outlet Magazine http://users.lanminds.com/dblelucy ___________________________________________ Elizabeth Treadwell http://users.lanminds.com/dblelucy/page2.html ___________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:46:03 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: The Poetry Project Subject: Announcements Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable This week and next week at the Poetry Project: TONIGHT, Wednesday, November 8th at 8 pm GRACE PALEY AND BRENDA COULTAS One of America's best-loved writers, Grace Paley was the first-ever officia= l New York State Writer, named by Mario Cuomo in 1989. She is the author of three collections of short fiction and three collections of poetry. Ms. Paley has also been active for various social causes, from protests against the Vietnam War to demonstrations against the production of nuclear weapons= . At the Poetry Project, Ms. Paley will read from Begin Again (Farrar, Straus & Giroux), a collection of new and previously published poems, which are described by poet Adrienne Rich as "exuberant, heartbreaking, committed." Brenda Coultas, a former student of Anne Waldman and Allen Ginsberg, is the author of Boy Eye (Art Institute of Maryland, 2000), A Summer Newsreel (Second Story Press, 1999), and Early Films (Rodent Press, 1996). Her work has appeared in American Poetry Review, Fence, Epoch, The Hat, and other journals. Originally from Southern Indiana, she has lived in New York City since 1995.=20 Friday, November 10th at 10:30 pm THE HOUSE OF PERNOD In the collage tradition of the '90's, The House of Pernod is a hybrid of funk, chaos, poetry, theater, and rock & roll. The band delivers "a unique and intoxicating energy," says Larry McDonald of Gil Scott Heron's Amnesia Express. Joining them tonight is Detroit poet M.L. Liebler, D. Nurkse, Sean Thomas Dougherty, the editor of the Red Brick Review, and Noel Jones. Monday, November 13th at 8 pm ELIZABETH YOUNG AND LAUREN GUDATH Talented, up-and-coming poet Elizabeth Young is the Assistant Editor for Th= e Poetry Project Newsletter and co-host for the Belladonna reading series. Moving with grace from prose to verse, her work is an exploration of a new landscape, one not confined to previous notions of surrealism and realism. Her poems have appeared in Tool a Magazine, Skanky Possum, and on the Poetr= y Project=B9s web site. Lauren Gudath works for a dot-com company in San Francisco. Full of humor and fantasy, her poetry resides in the world of po= p culture, present and future. Ms. Gudath is currently working on a series of poems about places in California she has never visited. Her most recent chapbook, The Television Documentary, was published in 1999 by Second Story Press. This Kind of Interpretation Brings Luck, a collaboration with visual artist David Larsen, is forthcoming from Lucinda Press. Wednesday, November 15th at 8 pm THE SONNETS READING Poet, rock musician, and The Basketball Diaries author Jim Carroll will be among the poets celebrating the republication of the late Ted Berrigan's essential early work, The Sonnets, which will be read in its entirety. Also among the readers will be John Ashbery, America=B9s foremost contemporary poet; Ed Sanders, poet, founding member of the musical group The Fugs, and author of The Family, the best-selling account of the Manson family murders= ; poet Alice Notley, who was married to Berrigan at the time of his death and who wrote the introduction to the new edition; and poet Ron Padgett, a friend with whom Berrigan wrote many collaborative works. "The Sonnets are an enduring benchmark in mid-20th century American poetics," says poet Robert Creeley. Originally published in 1964, The Sonnets is considered by many to be Ted Berrigan=B9s most important and influential book. Reflecting the new American sensibilities of the 1960s as well as timeless poetic themes, The Sonnets are both eclectic and classical= . Ted Berrigan was born in Providence, Rhode Island in 1934 to working-class parents. He established his reputation in the 1960s as a poet, art critic, teacher, and publisher. He published more than 20 books during his lifetime= . He died on July 4, 1983. Friday, November 17th at 10:30 pm WORD OF MOUTH: AN ANTHOLOGY OF GAY AMERICAN POETRY Contributors Edward Field, Wayne Koestenbaum, Jaime Manrique, Taylor Mead, David Trinidad, Mark Wunderlich, and editor Timothy Liu will read from this ground-breaking anthology, which offers a sweeping introduction to Gay American poetry of the past half-century. "Of course there are poems who overtly flaunt their sexuality ... but there are so many quieter poems (and poets) who might elude the most finely tuned gaydar." =ADfrom the preface by Timothy Liu. * * * ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 15:41:17 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: John Poch Subject: Re: don't forget to vote MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Amen, enough of narrowminded voters who are deluded and fairly uninformed. Can Al Gore tell me what exactly "Clean Coal" is and exactly why we should tear down mountains in West Virginia (where people live) and not touch Alaska (where people also live)? Did you know that coal burning plants put five times the amount of radioactivity into the air as compared with nuclear plants? Clean coal. Good one, Al. Think, people. -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Belz [mailto:aaron@BELZ.NET] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 9:29 AM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: don't forget to vote Well as long as we're talking about Al Gore, here's a dandy screed-- http://www.observer.com/pages/frontpage5.asp > From: Fiona Maazel > Subject: don't forget to vote > > Look, I know it's evil to be sending this mail out to all you people, but I am > very worried about next week's election. And since I'll be out all week > canvassing voters unlikely to make it to the polls, I thought I could also > send this mail out to remind everyone to vote. (And vote for Gore, I hope). My > apologies if I'm offending anyone. Really. > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 11:43:04 +1000 Reply-To: k.zervos@mailbox.gu.edu.au Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Komninos Zervos Organization: Griffith University Subject: Re: hypertext poetry sites (query) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT http://student.uq.edu.au/~s271502 komninos's cyberpoetry site > I know of the Ubuweb site (www.ubuweb.com), but for the purposes of > a class I'm teaching, I'm seeking out other such websites where > poetry--work intended primarily to be read/seen on the internet, > exploring at least in part innovations available by the medium--can > be found. Any suggestions on where I might look? > > Clark Lunberry > Milwaukee komNinos zErvos cYberPoet lecTurer cyBerStudies SchOol of aRts griFfith uniVerSity GolD coaSt cAmpuS pmb 50 gold coast mail centre queensland 9726 tel +61 7 55 948872 http://student.uq.edu.au/~s271502 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:13:57 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Adeena Karasick Subject: housepress - new chapbooks from Bok and Tipping MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hey you!! send me the christian bok book xoxoxo adeena 300 E. 4th St. #5a NYC, NY 10009 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:36:00 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: levitsk@ATTGLOBAL.NET Subject: Please Note/Levitsky change of address MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please, if you think I'm on a mail list of yours change my address to: 458 Lincoln Place, 4B Brooklyn, NY 11238-5441 All else remains the same- truly, Rachel Levitsky ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:46:56 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dickison Subject: J. ACOSTA & M. MONTIEL FIGUEIRAS Thurs Nov 9, 7:30 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable POETRY CENTER 2000 The Poetry Center & American Poetry Archives presents New fiction by Mexican writers JUVENAL ACOSTA & MAURICIO MONTIEL FIGUEIRAS Thursday, November 9, 7:30 pm, $5 donation @ the Unitarian Center 1187 Franklin (at Geary) JUVENAL ACOSTA was born in 1961 in Mexico City and became an American Citizen in 1994. Author of two novels written in Spanish (_The Tattoo Hunter_ and _Violent Velvet_) and one in English (_The Reader of Borges_), he is also the author of several collections of poetry, and has edited anthologies of contemporary Mexican poetry, including _Light From a Nearby Window: Contemporary Mexican Poetry _ (City Lights, 1993). Mr. Acosta is the director of the Writers' Center at the New College of California in San =46rancisco, where he teaches in the Writing and Consciousness MFA program. Currently he is working on a collection of short stories, a novel in Spanish, and a novel in English on the Marquis de Sade. MAURICIO MONTIEL FIGUEIRAS was born in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico, in 1968. He is author of three collections of short stories, including _Insomnios del otro lado_ (1994) and two collections of poetry, most recently _Oscuras palabras para escuchar a Satie_ (1995). His fiction is forthcoming in English in an anthology of younger Mexican fiction writers due from City Lights Books. His new work, the novella _Crowd_, is being translated into English for Cybercorpse, Andrei Codrescu's internet magazine. Mr. Montiel Figueiras is the director of _Sabado_, a weekly literary supplement in Mexico City. Coming up..... Special SFSU alumni reading EUGENE GLORIA & CATALINA CARIAGA Thursday afternoon, November 16, 4:30 pm, free @ The Poetry Center, SFSU An evening with poets JENNIFER MOXLEY & FANNY HOWE Thursday, November 30, 7:30 pm, $5 donation @ the Unitarian Center 1187 Franklin (at Geary) The George Oppen Memorial Lecture in Twentieth Century Poetics SUSAN THACKREY Thursday, December 7, 7:30 pm, $5 donation @ the Unitarian Center 1187 Franklin (at Geary) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D LOCATIONS THE POETRY CENTER is located in Humanities 512 on the SW corner of the San Francisco State University Campus, 1600 Holloway Avenue 2 blocks west of 19th Avenue on Holloway take MUNI's M Line to SFSU or from Daly City BART free shuttle or 28 bus THE UNITARIAN CENTER is located at 1187 Franklin St. at the corner of Geary on-street parking opens up at 7:00 pm from downtown SF take the Geary bus to Franklin =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D Readings that take place at The Poetry Center are free of charge. Except as indicated, a $5 donation is requested for readings off-campus. SFSU students and Poetry Center members get in free. The Poetry Center's programs are supported by funding from Grants for the Arts-Hotel Tax Fund of the City of San Francisco, the California Arts Council, the National Endowment for the Arts, Poets & Writers, Inc., and The Fund for Poetry, as well as by the College of Humanities at San =46rancisco State University, and by donations from our members. Join us! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Steve Dickison, Director The Poetry Center & American Poetry Archives San Francisco State University 1600 Holloway Avenue ~ San Francisco CA 94132 ~ vox 415-338-3401 ~ fax 415-338-0966 http://www.sfsu.edu/~newlit ~ ~ ~ L=E2 taltazim h=E2latan, wal=E2kin durn b=EE-llay=E2ly kam=E2 tad=FBwru Don't cling to one state turn with the Nights, as they turn ~Maq=E2mat al-Hamadh=E2ni (tenth century; tr Stefania Pandolfo) ~ ~ ~ Bring all the art and science of the world, and baffle and humble it with one spear of grass. ~Walt Whitman's notebook ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:55:06 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetics List Administration Subject: Charles Eames MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This message came to the administrative account. - TS --On Wednesday, November 08, 2000, 7:40 PM -0800 "Todd Baron" wrote: > Inquiry as to whether anyone "out there" has read or knows about Charles > Eames 1971 Norton Lectures on Poetry. I assume published by Harvard. > > > --seen it? > ---read it? > ---I need it! > > > yrs, > > Todd Baron > ---------------------- > ReMap Readers > > toddbaron@earthlink.net ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 19:56:30 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Bowering Subject: Re: housepress - new chapbooks from Bok and Tipping In-Reply-To: <200011072114_MC2-BA05-2E9@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >hey you!! send me the christian bok book >xoxoxo >adeena >300 E. 4th St. #5a >NYC, NY >10009 No can do, Adeena. I dont have xtra copies. Why dont you send a cheque to the publisher? gb -- George Bowering Fax 604-266-9000 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 00:51:52 +0000 Reply-To: baratier@megsinet.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Baratier Organization: Pavement Saw Press Subject: Richard Blevins _Fogbow Bridge: Selected Poems (1972-1999)_ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit New from Pavement Saw Press: Richard Blevins Fogbow Bridge: Selected Poems (1972-1999) Forward by Stephen Ellis ISBN: ISBN 1-886350-92-2 Softcover Trade $12 ISBN: ISBN 1-886350-93-0 Hardcover Library Edition on Acid Free paper 128 pages This collection of poetry by Richard Blevins is his second book of poems. He is the current editor of Charles Olson and Robert Creeley: The Complete Correspondence (Black Sparrow) Most of the poems in this book were selected from Court of the Half-King (Tansy, 1980) Remembering The Future (Zelot, 1981) Taz Alago (Zelot/Tansy, 1984) Letters from Kansas (Zelot, 1986) Clarel’s Motel (Am Here, 1987) Three Sleeps: A Historomance (Igneus, 1992) Longplaying (1994) High Season (Oasii, 1995) and The Collected Later Poems of Philip Marlowe (Talisman House, 1998). "I like the way Blevin’s wiggles his lines for eye and ear." —James Laughlin “Blevins is the true inheritor of Olson's Bibliography for Ed Dorn.” —George F. Butterick “Travelling hard in the dark of poems, hard music a traveller needs to keep the aggressions of place at bay — Blevins keeps readers musing, making us guess where the road runs over the bleak prairie and where it turns into a line of some poem his mind is stored with, line of highway and line of verse stretching out, superimposed, into the distance that draws him. Draws us. “Using the Cantos,” using Olson, the way you borrow from a friend a good car to test the desert with, to go with out into the interesting danger. Blevins has indeed made, as he says, a career of the travel poem — but not a poem about travelling (no one is on the road except the road), but a poem we have to travel. This collection is rich with instances of venture we share with him, poems that know how to read the world as well as to talk/sing about it. And there’s one grand long text here, “Clarel’s Motel” — an exemplum of method and music at once, and how they serve to keep intelligence on track, flourish a clean wit we can do with these days.” —Robert Kelly “What has happened to America has happened to all of us, Richard Blevins reminds us, singing his uncanny and intricate music. From inside the vast loneliness and plaintive landscapes of our native country, Blevins’ beset reports, testimonies, curses, and meditations send word home. This poet— meticulous scout and bereft wanderer— elegizes and celebrates our nation’s hero-ghosts and hallucinatory sages, and, above all, our thirst for a vivid and human, yet elusive communal design. This Selected marks both an earned arrival and a tantalizing passage.” —Judith Vollmer “Whether at Kent State with Duncan, Paris with Cendrars, Italy with Pound’s grave lizard, or on the Plains with Chief Joseph, Blevins is constantly keeping both, the footnotes of Romance and the Midwestern Crane-like roots of the American voice and lament, ongoing.” —Peter Kidd “Enviable style. And lots of things — a wonderful sense of the material that makes poems... Gives me hope that somebody's out there doing something well— very little evidence of it, otherwise.” —Guy Davenport “Although this art doesn’t resemble Robert Duncan’s, the quick psychological discrimination and scatter, and the means of laying out such extensive phenomena derive from the late master’s technology. The work becomes a luminated graph of sentience across space, a body of prior observations, pulled to focus in the present case. ‘Our poets make much out of what seems worse than nothing.’ That’s a really legitimate estimation, whichever way you take it. And out of it comes a historomantic resolution so complex only poetry would even attempt it.” —Edward Dorn “...what a richness (pardon) of the more than a quarter century's work, so diverse and so reaching, winding and reassembling and finding, reascending and returning, plumbing...in such encompassing share!” —Ken Irby This is one of two Blevins’ books still in print out of his thirteen titles, and the only book published in a substantial press run. This Selected will undoubtedly open up some new bearings for the field of historiographic poetry, its vital contribution to American poetry. Fogbow Bridge is Richard Blevins' second book of poems; Three Sleeps: A Historomance was published in 1991 by Igneus Press. He is the author of 13 chapbooks of poems, most recently The Collected Later Poems of Philip Marlowe (Jensen/Daniels, 1999). He holds degrees from Kent State University (BGS, 1973), where he studied with Robert Duncan and Ed Dorn, the University of Oregon (MA, 1976), and the University of Pittsburgh (PhD, 1985), where he wrote a dissertation on the literature of the American West. He has taught at the Greensburg Campus of the University of Pittsburgh since 1978, and also at the University of Akron and Kent State. In 1999, he was awarded a Chancellor's Distinguished Teaching Award by the University of Pittsburgh. He is the editor of two volumes of Charles Olson and Robert Creeley: The Complete Correspondence (Black Sparrow) and of George F. Butterick's Collected Later Poems (SUNY-Buffalo, 1989). He has published over a dozen encyclopedia articles, including entries in the Dictionary of Literary Biography, the Encyclopedia of World Literature, and the Pound Encyclopedia. During the 1980s, he was editor and co-publisher of Zelot Press, which printed some 70 titles. His literary archive is housed at Kent State University Special Collections Library. Special for listmembers: $10 to US locations including postage $12 for Canada & international destinations. payable to Pavement Saw Press, address below Be well David Baratier, Editor Pavement Saw Press PO Box 6291 Columbus OH 43206 USA http://pavementsaw.org ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:03:13 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Patrick Herron Subject: Re: hypertext poetry sites (query) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit p r o x i m a t e . o r g http://proximate.org/ Two pages about the site (they might help explain): http://proximate.org/about.htm http://www.jps.net/nada/proximate.htm enjoy. also, check with chris funkhouser at njit. he taught a class on cyberpoetry last semester and had a fairly comprehensive list of innovative sites as part of his curriculum. he might be able to help. i think his email address is: Funkhouser@ADM.NJIT.EDU. Patrick Herron patrick@proximate.org > > I know of the Ubuweb site > (www.ubuweb.com), but for the purposes of > > a class I'm teaching, I'm seeking out other such websites where > > poetry--work intended primarily to be read/seen on the internet, > > exploring at least in part innovations available by the medium--can > > be found. Any suggestions on where I might look? > > > > Clark Lunberry > > Milwaukee > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:07:20 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Aaron Belz Subject: one from bunting In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I thought this was appropriate post-election poesy: CODA A strong song tows us, long earsick. Blind, we follow rain slant, spray flick to fields we do not know. Night, float us. Offshore wind, shout, ask the sea what's lost, what's left, what horn sunk, what crown adrift. Where we are who knows of kings who sup while day fails? Who, swinging his axe to fell kings, guesses where we go? [Basil Bunting, 1965] ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:16:35 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Rothenberg Subject: PUBLICATION NOTICE-The Paris Journals by Michael Rothenberg MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Fish Drum, Inc, publishers of fine books and magazines announces publication of The Paris Journals by Michael Rothenberg, Introuction by Joanne Kyger. 89pp. $11 paperback, ISBN 1-929495-05-6. "This is a poignant document, in the tradition of the journal travel writer from Basho to Kerouac..." Joanne Kyger "The poet rips off his iron mas & reveals himself to himself with grace & seduction...A poet at the door of the new Millennium." Ira Cohen "...extraordinary loops of mind migration here...Rothenerg's spirited document is a plugged in tour..." John Brandi Michael Rothenberg is a poet, songwriter, editor and co-founder of Big Bridge Press. He is also co-editor and co-founder of Jack Magazine. He is most recently editor of Overtime:Selected Poems by Philip Whalen (Penguin Viking, 1999). His novel Punk Rockwell is out now (Tropical Press,2000) Copies can be ordered from Fish Drum Inc, 1 Penn Plaza, Suite #3407, NY, NY, 10119, phone: 212.947.2440, fax: 212.947.2305, e-mail: fishdrum@earthlink.net ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 10:12:25 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Nielsen, Aldon" Subject: call for papers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Papers on any aspect of the life and works of C.L.R. James are invited for a centennial panel to be held at the American Literature Association in Cambridge, MA, May 24-27. -- send abstracts or proposals to Aldon Nielsen. Yeah, I know he didn't write poetry -- but he read a lot of it! " Subjects hinder talk." -- Emily Dickinson Aldon Lynn Nielsen Fletcher Jones Chair of Literature and Writing Loyola Marymount University 7900 Loyola Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90045-8215 (310) 338-3078 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 10:14:52 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: anne pluto Subject: Re: Poetic Recipes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, I'm very interested in this project. I'm a published poet (and writer) working on a novel now (set in New Orleans); I find that when I'm stuck, I go in the kitchen and cook; if I'm feeling very good about my work on a particular day, I bake. Please send me the guidelines. Thanks, Annie Pluto Anne Elezabeth Pluto, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Theatre and Literature ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 19:21:47 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Karen Kelley Subject: Re: body memoirs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _The Words to Say It_ by Marie Cardinal Particularly the opening of the book, when the narrator is suffering inexplicable, endless menstrual bleeding. _Fragmentation and Redemption: Essays on Gender and the Human Body in Medieval Religion_ by Caroline Walker Bynum _Body Criticism: Imaging the Unseen in Enlightenment Art and Medicine_ by Barbara Maria Stafford _To the Friend Who Did Not Save My Life_ _The Compassion Protocol_ by Herve Guibert I don't know how many people out there read Guibert--he's a wonderful writer, lost to AIDS. Not so raw as Wojnarowicz, but as deeply affecting. > > > > > > At 3:44 PM -0700 10/27/00, Dodie Bellamy wrote: > >> Since you've all been so helpful with teaching ideas, here's another > >> class I'm planning that I'd welcome suggestions for. The course is a > >> grad level creative nonfiction workshop. Previous creative > >> nonfiction workshops have been taught with a thematic focus, so > >> following that lead, I've decided to focus on writing about the body. > >> I'll give some writing exercises focused around body stuff, which are > >> optional to people who'd prefer to work on ongoing projects. I also > >> want to do some body-centered reading. Ideas I have are David > >> Wojnarowicz, Frantz Fanon, and the anorexia/bulimia memoir Wasted. > >> Actually, many things come to mind, but I'd welcome suggestions. I'd > >> like to look at a range of writings about the body: the body in > >> pleasure, the body in pain, the ailing body, the invaded body, etc. > >> Since this is creative nonfiction, the reading examples need to be > >> first person-y autobiographical-ish. Formal innovation won't be > >> stressed, but won't be ignored either. I'm particularly interested > >> in maintaining a cultural and racial range. > >> > >> Any ideas? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Dodie > > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 10:08:06 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Prageeta Sharma Subject: Lorenzo Thomas and John Coletti Live at Double Happiness!!! This Saturday! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SEGUE presents POETRY READINGS every Saturday at Double Happiness 4pm, $4 175 Mott Street (corner of Bloome) down the stairs between the fish store and the mural of the Indian Chief. (2-for-one drinks!) This Saturday, November 11 Lorenzo Thomas and John Coletti Lorenzo Thomas is a Professor of English at the University of Houston-Downtown where he teaches American Literature and Creative Writing. His works have appeared in many journals including African American Review, Arrowsmith, Blues Unlimited [England], Living Blues, Partisan Review, Ploughshares, and Popular Music and Society, among others. His collections of poetry include Chances Are Few, The Bathers, and Es Gibt Zeugen ; he is also the author of Sing the Sun Up: Creative Writing Ideas from African American Literature. John Coletti is currently working on two new projects: a book collaboration with painter Zachary Wollard and a book of comics with artist Jonathan Allen. Recent or forthcoming work appears in Prosodia, Log, TheEastVillage.com, Ixnay and The Brooklyn Review On-line. Coletti lives in Greenpoint, Brooklyn. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:35:51 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Wanda Phipps Subject: Fun at the Living Room! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Just a reminder--will be a lot of fun! Hey hope to see you there: The New York Underground Music & Poetry Festival Presents Tom Devaney with music by Ted Casterline Merry Fortune accompanied by Barry Sarnoff : guitar Daniel Carter: sax Dee Pop: percussion & Wanda Phipps performing songs & poems with Joel Schlemowitz: guitar Hiroshi Noguchi: guitar Andrea Urist: drums 7:00 (sharp!) - 8:00 PM Friday, November 10, 2000 The Living Room 84 Stanton Street (at Allen just below Houston) for info. 212-533-7237 and it's free too! check out schedule for the rest of the festival at www.nycundergroundfest.org ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:36:27 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetics List Administration Subject: Buffalo reading MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Monday, 13 November 7:30p "reading translations" in a manner of speaking Christopher W. Alexander and Marten Clibbens at Rust Belt Books 202 Allen St., Buffalo Translate f. L trans- across, beyond, through + latus bear ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 16:30:01 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Baptiste Chirot Subject: Re: body memoirs In-Reply-To: <007901c049fc$34e4a5c0$e8ce56d1@na.nai.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The works of Rabelais The works of Walt Whitman Anything one may find on the use and meaning of tattoos in the Russian prison system --the body writing of Russian prison inmates The works of Frida Kahlo written and painted ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 16:05:35 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: tom bell Subject: Re: hypertext poetry sites (query) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit is innovation still desirable? what about quality? tom bell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Herron" To: Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 11:03 AM Subject: Re: hypertext poetry sites (query) > p r o x i m a t e . o r g > http://proximate.org/ > > Two pages about the site (they might help explain): > http://proximate.org/about.htm > http://www.jps.net/nada/proximate.htm > > enjoy. > > also, check with chris funkhouser at njit. he taught a class on cyberpoetry > last semester and had a fairly comprehensive list of innovative sites as > part of his curriculum. he might be able to help. i think his email > address is: Funkhouser@ADM.NJIT.EDU. > > Patrick Herron > patrick@proximate.org > > > > > > I know of the Ubuweb site > > (www.ubuweb.com), but for the purposes of > > > a class I'm teaching, I'm seeking out other such websites where > > > poetry--work intended primarily to be read/seen on the internet, > > > exploring at least in part innovations available by the medium--can > > > be found. Any suggestions on where I might look? > > > > > > Clark Lunberry > > > Milwaukee > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 21:14:23 +1300 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "richard.tylr" Subject: Re: don't forget to vote and where's Bill Austin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Al. (Is it?) I think you mean that coal plants put more carbon dioxide into the air, which some scientists maintain is harmful.(Because of global warming which is a pretty nebulous theory and open to debate as to whether its actually a problem or is occurring). But for engineers its probably easier to design a safe coal plant than a nuclear plant.(Which when they melt down, as one or two will on average about every 150 years for sure, has terrible effects in case anyone forgets Chernobyl or 3 Mile Island). The best bet ultimately is more research into the efficiency of electric generators (which are motors in reverse). An enormous amount of potential energy is wasted or lost in electric motors/generators which could (theoretically) push large trucks along. Diesel-electric trains still use a significant amount of oil (via diesel (and oil) - which is fundamentally the same as coal. But electric cars etc say and utilising solar energy (with very advanced generator systems) would mean less polution etc (and noise). But it looks as tho its all rather acco now. If I was American I'd probably vote for Gore. When I think of Bush I think: CIA! Anyway, its all very controversial now. People go on hoping that one pathetic vote every (3years?) is going to change things, and I include myself. But then the Politicos turn out to be bullshit artists. So very little changes. All that aside, I hope things are going well for everyone, Richard. P.S. Where's me mate Bill Austin these days? Being an acco he's probably off on a sabbatical. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Poch" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 9:41 AM Subject: Re: don't forget to vote > Amen, enough of narrowminded voters who are deluded and fairly uninformed. > Can Al Gore tell me what exactly "Clean Coal" is and exactly why we should > tear down mountains in West Virginia (where people live) and not touch > Alaska (where people also live)? Did you know that coal burning plants put > five times the amount of radioactivity into the air as compared with nuclear > plants? Clean coal. Good one, Al. > > Think, people. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Aaron Belz [mailto:aaron@BELZ.NET] > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 9:29 AM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: don't forget to vote > > > Well as long as we're talking about Al Gore, here's a dandy screed-- > > http://www.observer.com/pages/frontpage5.asp > > > > > > From: Fiona Maazel > > Subject: don't forget to vote > > > > Look, I know it's evil to be sending this mail out to all you people, but > I am > > very worried about next week's election. And since I'll be out all week > > canvassing voters unlikely to make it to the polls, I thought I could also > > send this mail out to remind everyone to vote. (And vote for Gore, I > hope). My > > apologies if I'm offending anyone. Really. > > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 17:11:23 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Balestrieri, Peter" Subject: Quote Query MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, Can someone please tell me the origin of the expression, "I can beat any man from any land, at any game that he can name, for any amount that he can count." It was used in the film Walk Softly, Stranger. Thanks. Pete Balestrieri ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:26:04 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Bowering Subject: Re: Poetic Recipes In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > I'm a published poet Isnt that a redundancy? -- George Bowering Fax 604-266-9000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:05:34 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Austinwja@AOL.COM Subject: national alert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ATTENTION!! We have finally discovered the reason for the national decline in college enrollment. It seems that all recent applications contain the following choices: 1)matriculated, 2) non-matriculated, 3) Buchanan. The arrows, of course, are all pointing at one another. An investigation is in progress. Best, Bill ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:09:20 -0700 Reply-To: laura.wright@colorado.edu Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Laura Wright Subject: Reading in Boulder: Schelling and Pritchett, Nov. 16 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit *THE LEFT HAND READING SERIES* presents poets ANDREW SCHELLING & PATRICK PRITCHETT THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 16th 8:00 p.m. in the V ROOM at the DAIRY CENTER FOR THE ARTS 2590 Walnut Street, Boulder, CO. For more information about the Left Hand Reading Series, call (303) 938-9346 or (303) 544-5854. ------- Andrew Schelling has been on the faculty of the Jack Kerouac School of Disembodied Poetics for ten years, teaching poetry, Sanskrit and bioregional writing, and supervising Naropa's letterpress printshop. Poet, essayist, and editor, he is also the most acclaimed translator of India's ancient poetries in North America, with translation awards from the Academy of American Poets and the Witter Bynner Foundation for Poetry. His most recent book of translations is The Cane Groves of Narmada River: Erotic Poems from Old India (City Lights). Other books include The Road to Ocosingo (Smokeproof Press), Old Growth: Poems 1986-1994 (Rodent Press), and the forthcoming Tea Shack Interior: New & Selected Poetry (Talisman House, Spring 2001). He has also recently completed a manuscript of essays titled Wild Form, Savage Grammar. Works in-progress include a poetry manuscript, Haibun Black Earth and, with the German poet Stefan Hyner, a multilingual translation of The Diamond Sutra. Schelling has traveled extensively through India, the Himalayas, Mexico, and the U.S.A. He lives in Boulder with the poet Anne Waldman. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:58:50 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Fouhy Subject: POETRY RETURNS!! Comments: To: Mo Roberts , "Monet18673@aol.com" , "Moore, Carley" , "Morris, Karen" , "mptpoet@aol.com" , "mrh1@co.westchester.ny.us" , MS MARILYN C GREENE , "mw299@is7.nyu.edu" , Nancy Desmond , Nanette , "NCGiles@aol.com" , "Nester, Daniel" , "newsroom@trader-pub.com" , Nico Suave , "Ogorman05@aol.com" , "Othercinsf@aol.com" , "Paolino, Tammy" , "parnofil@rw.com" , "PartnersBE@aol.com" , Patrick Gabridge , Paul Maass , Paul Schonberg , "Paul-Victor L. Winters" , paul_lindstrom , PAULETTE , "pdunn@pipeline.com" , "Peele, Tom" , "pembroke9@earthlink.net" , "Perry, Cat" , "Perullo, Jinx" , Peter Giles , PETER PIOPPO/Mauri , "PeterSpiro@aol.com" , "Pinezich, Lyn" , Poetics List Administration , "PolitoR@newschool.edu" , Poncet1212 , "prdanjan@email.msn.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Northern Westchester Center for the Arts 272 N. Bedford Road Mt. Kisco, NY 10549 Tel # 914 241 6922 Poet Daniel Kane At Creative Arts Café Poetry Series Monday, November 13th at 7:30 PM Daniel Kane has poems published or forthcoming in journals including The Denver Quarterly, TriQuarterly, Fence, and Exquisite Corpse. His book "Improvising Community: St. Mark's Poetry Project and the Poetry Scene in the Lower East Side, 1962 - 1972" is due to be published by the University of California Press in January of 2002. His poetry manuscript "Alda Others" is currently making the rounds among small-press publishers. RECEPTION AND OPEN MIKE FOLLOW READING The Creative Arts Café Poetry Series is sponsored, in part, by the New York State Council on the Arts and the Bydale Foundation ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:37:35 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Pierre Joris Subject: Job Announcement Comments: cc: British Poets , poetryetc@mailbase.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The following job announcement may be of interest to some on these lists. -- Pierre Joris The Department of English in the University at Albany expects to hire an assistant professor (tenure track) in Creative Writing (fiction and/or non-fiction). Candidates should be able to teach courses (at the graduate and undergraduate level) in contemporary poetics, the theory of fiction and meta-fiction, and have expertise in one or more of the following fields: hypertext and multimedia; journalism; transnational literatures; or related fields. We are seeking candidates with a strong theoretical background, as well as demonstrable expertise in a scholarly field of inquiry to be part of a program that encourages interdisciplinary research and teaching. Letter, curriculum vitae, and writing sample by December 6 to Randall Craig, Interim Chair, Department of English, University at Albany, 1400 Washington Avenue, Albany, NY 12222. The University at Albany is an Equal Opportunity, Affirmative Action, Immigration Reform and Control Act, and American Disabilities Act Employer. ______________________________________________________________________ Pierre Joris The problems of prosody for a narrative of pitchers 6 Madison Place are the pitchers’ problems of the musculature facing home… Albany NY 12202 Tel: (518) 426-0433 Kenneth Irby Fax: (518) 426-3722 Email: joris@csc.albany.edu Url: ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:43:44 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Broder, Michael" Subject: Mark Bibbins, Herb Scott, Michael Heller READ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Please forgive any repeat mailings, but I wanted to make sure everyone on the Ear Inn distribution list gets this message from Martha Rhodes... The Ear Inn Saturday, November 18 at 3:00 PM 326 Greenwich St. Mark Bibbins, Herbert Scott, Michael Heller read in this, or perhaps in another, order! But read they will! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:12:46 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Hank Lazer Subject: Andrew Schelling e-address MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have a current e-address for Andrew Schelling? Please back channel.... Thanks. Hank Lazer ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:35:48 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII = 9 writing and breathing out and breathing in, O immortal! 14 outside and foreign and beyond or outside the body and 18 reading and chanting, think- ing, from the heart and two because a pair or doubling and a balance and 44 thinking, intention, and 45 thought, the wish of the heart! and the present skull! 85 see, such an eye and 87 musical theme and essay, or all the rules standing in the composition and 104 walking on the edge of the cliff! falling! disappearing! and that uneasy margin where one thing ends and another other begins and just there where i am you see the origin and 117 calling the birds and animals in their languages and names and they're calling you with their names and in their names and 121 anciently breath- ing in and breathing out until it has passed away and 164 sacrificing and you will try and remember the receptacle and 133 the meat and flesh of your face, nikuko! O nikuko and 188 giving you obeisance our hands above us, O trembling! 191 will continue to breathe and 238 the boat with com- partments and places to carrying things, floating, and a prow and an oar and 276 of opposition and division, of negation and its pull and 302 such empty leisure and what lies above our exhalation from skin and flesh, our breathing image and symbol, breathing paper and rock and 656 being pun- ished and knived and 723 O nikuko! calling you and exhaling and giving out through adversity, and the thin stream of air from within and 796 confined and held from within and repressed and inhaled and held, turned, stopped, named, and 42, divided and sealed (Analysis of Chinese Characters, Wilder and Ingram.) __ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:52:03 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alicia Askenase Subject: Nathaniel Mackey and Jay Wright @wwcac Comments: To: whpoets@dept.english.upenn.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wwcac@wwcac@wwcac@wwcac@wwcac@wwcac@wwcac@wwcac@wwcac@ww The Walt Whitman Cultural Arts Center's NOTABLE POETS AND WRITERS SERIES will present NATHANIEL MACKEY and JAY WRIGHT on FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 17TH, 2000, 7:30 PM in a reading of their work, booksigning and reception. $6 non-members/ $4 students/seniors/ free to members JAY WRIGHT is the distinguised author of eight books of poetry,a winner of the 2000 Lannan Literary Awards and a MacArthur Fellowship, among several other awards over a lifetime of acheivement in poetry. Mr. Wright's poems embody the landscapes and cultures of Africa, Latin America, and the American west and are "miracles of visionary energy...a bouyant, complex mythmaking." An extraordinary poet of wisdom and grace, Jay Wright is a poet to be honored; his beautifully abundant obra is an gift to experience. NATHANIEL MACKEY's is the author of several books of poetry, a three-volume prose compostion, editor of the literary journal Hambone, coeditor of the anthology Moment's Notice: Jazz in Poetry and Prose, and author of Discrepant Engagement Dissonance, Cross-Culturality, and Experimental Writing, a book of critical essays. His work blends a multitude of cultural influences (jazz, Haitian vodoun, Cuban santeria, the Koran, mythology of the Dogon...) with the spontaneity of improvisational jazz, and possess a uniquely integral place in contemporary American and African-American literature. Come and join us for an unparalleled pairing of poets the WWCAC is honored to present. Walt Whitman Cultural Arts Center 2nd and Cooper Streets Camden, New Jersey 08102 www.waltwhitmancenter.org 856-964-8300 wwcac@wwcac@wwcac@wwcac@wwcac@wwcac@wwcac@wwcac@wwcac@ww ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:27:33 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: tom bell Subject: tasteless poets' jokes, tasteless poets? Comments: To: webartery@egroups.com, poetics UB Poetics discussion group , poetryetc@mailbase.ac.uk, subsub MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable anybody ever do an anthology of poets' jokes? here are some tasteless = ones: What has two arms and two legs and smokes like a chimney? =20 An poet waiting to see who will be president - Tweedle Dumb or Tweedled = Dee. Who has a big nose and smells like Vesuvious erupted? An poet who held it in too long. tom bell excuse cross posting Life designs: http://trbell.tripod.com/lifedesigns/ Art, poetry, webpoetry done by people with chronic physical=20 or mental problems (work that helped) at=20 http://members.tripod.com/~trbell/metaphor/metapho.htm _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_/??????????///-_ SOULSOLESOLO=20 <<<]]][[[[[[[[[[[[]]]]]]]]]]}}}}+++++++ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:57:28 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: John Poch Subject: Re: don't forget to vote and where's Bill Austin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" No. Not coal. I meant radioactivity. Uranium, in other words. They extract it from coal, you know. But this isn't about poetics, so this is the last post on this subject for me. -----Original Message----- From: richard.tylr [mailto:richard.tylr@XTRA.CO.NZ] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 3:14 AM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: don't forget to vote and where's Bill Austin Al. (Is it?) I think you mean that coal plants put more carbon dioxide into the air, which some scientists maintain is harmful.(Because of global warming which is a pretty nebulous theory and open to debate as to whether its actually a problem or is occurring). But for engineers its probably easier to design a safe coal plant than a nuclear plant.(Which when they melt down, as one or two will on average about every 150 years for sure, has terrible effects in case anyone forgets Chernobyl or 3 Mile Island). The best bet ultimately is more research into the efficiency of electric generators (which are motors in reverse). An enormous amount of potential energy is wasted or lost in electric motors/generators which could (theoretically) push large trucks along. Diesel-electric trains still use a significant amount of oil (via diesel (and oil) - which is fundamentally the same as coal. But electric cars etc say and utilising solar energy (with very advanced generator systems) would mean less polution etc (and noise). But it looks as tho its all rather acco now. If I was American I'd probably vote for Gore. When I think of Bush I think: CIA! Anyway, its all very controversial now. People go on hoping that one pathetic vote every (3years?) is going to change things, and I include myself. But then the Politicos turn out to be bullshit artists. So very little changes. All that aside, I hope things are going well for everyone, Richard. P.S. Where's me mate Bill Austin these days? Being an acco he's probably off on a sabbatical. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Poch" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 9:41 AM Subject: Re: don't forget to vote > Amen, enough of narrowminded voters who are deluded and fairly uninformed. > Can Al Gore tell me what exactly "Clean Coal" is and exactly why we should > tear down mountains in West Virginia (where people live) and not touch > Alaska (where people also live)? Did you know that coal burning plants put > five times the amount of radioactivity into the air as compared with nuclear > plants? Clean coal. Good one, Al. > > Think, people. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Aaron Belz [mailto:aaron@BELZ.NET] > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 9:29 AM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: don't forget to vote > > > Well as long as we're talking about Al Gore, here's a dandy screed-- > > http://www.observer.com/pages/frontpage5.asp > > > > > > From: Fiona Maazel > > Subject: don't forget to vote > > > > Look, I know it's evil to be sending this mail out to all you people, but > I am > > very worried about next week's election. And since I'll be out all week > > canvassing voters unlikely to make it to the polls, I thought I could also > > send this mail out to remind everyone to vote. (And vote for Gore, I > hope). My > > apologies if I'm offending anyone. Really. > > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:43:29 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: tom bell Subject: Re: hypertext poetry sites (query) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit email communication has pitfalls that i sometimes forget in my eagerness to press keys - my response was not directed to 'proximate' and it's playful potential for interaction, but intended to bring up the general issue of quality of poetry, language, design, etc., as opposed to innovation which is too often seen as desirable today, as in the wired mtv cyber beat rebel art museum world we live in. maybe i'm geerating even more confusion, but in any case, sorry, Patrick. tom bell ----- Original Message ----- From: "tom bell" To: Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 4:05 PM Subject: Re: hypertext poetry sites (query) > is innovation still desirable? what about quality? > tom bell > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick Herron" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 11:03 AM > Subject: Re: hypertext poetry sites (query) > > > > p r o x i m a t e . o r g > > http://proximate.org/ > > > > Two pages about the site (they might help explain): > > http://proximate.org/about.htm > > http://www.jps.net/nada/proximate.htm > > > > enjoy. > > > > also, check with chris funkhouser at njit. he taught a class on > cyberpoetry > > last semester and had a fairly comprehensive list of innovative sites as > > part of his curriculum. he might be able to help. i think his email > > address is: Funkhouser@ADM.NJIT.EDU. > > > > Patrick Herron > > patrick@proximate.org > > > > > > > > > > I know of the Ubuweb site > > > (www.ubuweb.com), but for the purposes of > > > > a class I'm teaching, I'm seeking out other such websites where > > > > poetry--work intended primarily to be read/seen on the internet, > > > > exploring at least in part innovations available by the medium--can > > > > be found. Any suggestions on where I might look? > > > > > > > > Clark Lunberry > > > > Milwaukee > > > > > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:41:20 -0500 Reply-To: Nate and Jane Dorward Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nate and Jane Dorward Subject: New Quid MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Just got issue #6 of _Quid_; I'd briefly reported on issue #5 in this forum before & thought I'd do the same again. As always: an unpretentious stapled sheaf of paper emanating from the UK, which grabs the attention more than many more polished (& pricy) productions (the magazine costs, true to its name, one pound). The prose here includes JH Prynne's dissection of Handke's dictum that "the first victim of war is language" ("We live, as always we have, in an historic glasshouse of language; we can see out but only through the glass and it is not easy to cast a well-aimed stone that will not smash up more than was intended."; "Human language...is not some innocent civilian victim too defenceless not to fall at the first waves of warlike assault somewhere within the system, when the handy concordat of moral reason starts to shatter; it sits at the tables where war is planned and social consciousness manipulated and it services the justification of war aims and the rescheduled debt provisions of just, patriotic, necessary and humanitarian terms of engagement. Not one word of any langauge ever known to man has ever been innocent of these things; just as no human body has ever submitted to be expressively at the complete disposal of the mind that inhabits it or the meanings which that mind claims to deploy."). There's also two letters concerning "totality" & contemporary poetry by Peter Riley (these had their origins in an exchange on the British-Poets listserv from several months ago) & Drew Milne's review of the early writings of Althusser. Sprouting from the crevices between these offerings are poems by Tom Jones, Jennifer Moxley, Tim Morris, Ben Friedlander & Keston Sutherland--the latter, "Thursday and Forever", is a poem written in response to the fall of Milosevic. I thought I'd also enclose a review by Pete Smith I published in _The Gig_ #6, of Keston Sutherland's most recent volume, _[Bar Zero]_. Both _[Bar Zero]_ & _Quid_ are obtainable from Keston (email: kms20@hermes.cam.ac.uk -- web: www.barquepress.com). It's an enterprise worth supporting, I think, as one of the few active little magazines in the UK worth following, & one of the more enterprising of the small presses. all best --N Nate & Jane Dorward ndorward@sprint.ca THE GIG magazine: http://www.geocities.com/ndorward/ 109 Hounslow Ave., Willowdale, ON, M2N 2B1, Canada ph: (416) 221 6865 ---- On! On! Incomprehensibility Keston Sutherland, Bar Zero. Cambridge: Barque Press (c/o Keston Sutherland & Andrea Brady, Gonville & Caius College, Cambridge CB2 1TA, UK; web: ), 2000. 30pp. £3. 1-903488-09-5. In the early '60s Dr Who, in his William Hartnell incarnation, confided to me in a pre-mail that even the old Tardis had more zip "when young Keston will be on board." Destination: mid-C18th England & Germany; mission: to trace Romanticism through a late-modernist/post-punk sensibility by means of the cipher zero. That is not all _Bar Zero_ is, but it's a way in--signposted by the epigraph from Schlegel, the nod to P. Bysshe in "Remark to The West Wind," and other Odes otherwise encoded. My Langenscheidt & instincts render the Schlegel as: "Many tender spirits are needed / around the fire to feed its blaze." If "spirit" contains "ghost," this sentence gains poignancy with knowledge that the poem "Zeroes Galore" was written for and, in _Quid_ 4, dedicated to Douglas Oliver (before his untimely death, to honour his intelligent tenderness and his fearlessness in the face of all levels of tyrannic behaviour). I see that poem framed in the opening & closing stanzas by echoes of Prynne & Ted Berrigan respectively-- The zeroes count, much more than you think you don't think and say fuck it. (cf. close of _Down where changed_) one death for everyone, finally you might end, and our requiems then starts reversible and lovely and the hope won't also end, I never shall. (cf. "Red Shift") --which is nicely appropriate since Oliver held these two writers in high regard (Oliver in "Trink" calls Berrigan "my stout heart"). While _Bar Zero_ is not as stylistically cohesive as earlier works like _Mincemeat Seesaw_ or _At the Motel Partial Opportunity_ the themes announced in title & epigraph thread the poems. Zero as hero (surely another fire-tending spirit in MacSweeney? "Bar" he was in _Pearl_ & "Zero Hero" in a _Demons_ extract: the intensity of language in political critique, too, is at a similar pitch); as a nobody, then; as that concept without which mathematics would have been paddling in the doldrums--no multiplication, no algebra, no calculus; as the rear sights on a gun and the verb fired from that barrel, "to zero in," lately familiar from the TV war of the Gulf (cultural event sponsored by Shell etc); the nadir. Bar--to exclude, forbid; as noun, impediment to progress; a plea that destroys a case in law; a system of courts. "Bar-code," to bring these themes into the world of commerce. Fires abound and their effects & opposites: blazes & ice; revolutionary fires whose shadows flatten, contort & distort your personal stand; and the verb--to lay off workers, to take deadly aim. Hope, justice and tenderness in several guises also appear. This, then, is ethically driving and driven work; but also work at great play, hence worth rereading. The verse is mostly taut, some contained in quatrains, some shaped like Horatian odes: pattern seems to interest Sutherland, as a means, one suspects, of unleashing power, improving aim. Sentences trawl across pages, especially in "A Pow Ode" and "The Code for Ice," and, as "disordered / asyndeton blowing over" ("Remark to The West Wind") hints, conjunctions are mostly skipped. As well as the key words found throughout the book, Sutherland threads certain words through individual poems: e.g., "riot" occurs in each stanza of "Refuted Eros," and similarly "beneficent" in "To the Last Ansaphone," "zero/es" in "Zeroes Galore." There is a fit between Schlegel's remarks on Romantic poetry in his 116th Atheneum Fragment and some effects achieved by Sutherland's verse. "Romantic poetry is a progressive, universal poetry.... It alone can become...a mirror of the whole circumambient world, an image of the age.... [I]ts real essence: that it should forever be becoming and never be perfected"--these phrases seem apt for Sutherland's ambitions. Schlegel's essay "On Incomprehensibility" also seems pertinent for some of the pamphlet's preoccupations. It gives us the epigraph, but also some maxims and mischiefs the poet plays with in behind-the-scenes ideas or, in specific glances, in the poems: "Why should I provide misunderstandings when no one wants to take them up?"; "A classical text must never be entirely comprehensible"; "Irony is the form of paradox"; "We haven't gotten far enough in giving offense"; "What gods will rescue us from all these ironies? The only solution is to find an irony that might be able to swallow up all these big and little ironies and leave no trace of them at all.... But even this would only be a short-term solution. I fear that...soon there will arise a new generation of little ironies: for truly the stars augur the fantastic." Space as run down now as time: suffice to note a little of how paradox works in "The Code for Ice": "free is itself a code"; "reek of freedom outcodes / basic ice"; "freedom is not the code." There is care at the level of prosody which may be missed in the general speed of much of this work. Desire to go beyond the joining-the-dots technique of much verse is stated blatantly: following two similes, the first fitting to a theme, the second arresting in its ludicrousness--"things are hotting / up like the fuse in a fridge plug; / the heart gripped like spam by batter"--we read: likeness was a trick we clapped for eye snare, spoon fed freestyle (21) Having & eating the cake: more then than pablum. Commas also do more work than usual in some poems (e.g. "get the / hell out I once, more say, say what / ever you feel can..."); by these feints of punctuation in the pamphlet's last sentence-- across the celestial equator, Venus breaks, the resolve and you are bound, to recast down a faultless star (30) --you, reader/listener, are bound up in your resolve while chance and the world (evening star) go merrily on around you. Earlier in this poem, "Atonement," fire asks "can you go on?" in the face of collective memory of trauma: Shines in the mind crispy, a shiver of faces throws upon you shadow, bright urban lattice adrift among glances like drapery, can you go on fire says. There is no adequate remorse or adequate reason why there is none. For this reader that last sentence fills the awful gap in "Remark to The West Wind" between the last word of the second stanza and first of the third-- camp concentration touching your invisible acumen _Bar Zero_, where everything but nothing is allowed. The poet has threaded silk through his three-piece suit, but the fly is still undone. Pete Smith ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:26:27 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Anselm Hollo Subject: announcement Comments: To: archambeau@lfmail.lfc.edu, baratier@megsinet.net, british-poets@mailbase.ac.uk, Synaepress@aol.com, miles@dircon.co.uk, elaclark@mindspring.com, sclay@granarybooks.com, jimcohn@central.com, ddv@youthlaw.org, reality.street@virgin.net, mgizzi@massed.net, roger@chass.utoronto.ca, sgrolmes@pacbell.net, jim_haynes@wanadoo.fr, mhohner@erols.com, turbeville@earthlink.net, bentlight@earthlink.net, bff@cc.helsinki.fi, levitsk@ibm.net, raintaxi@bitstream.net, mmagee@dept.english.upenn.edu, rmasterson@westchesterweekly.com, gmd@dnai.com, djmess@cinenet.net, kaiminen@megabaud.fi, norcirc@spot.colorado.edu, connieo@seqnet.net, cpallant@titan.vcu.edu, perelman@dept.english.upenn.edu, BeaTomBoCo@aol.com, poetics@acsu.buffalo.edu, prosodia@ncgate.newcollege.edu, gquasha@stationhill.org, priley@dircon.co.uk, Randy@soundstrue.com, jsafdie@mailnt.ctc.edu, Epsalonen@aol.com, sks_mas@finlit.fi, SSSCHAEFER@aol.com, jerrold@durationpress.com, AERIALEDGE@aol.com, D.Spears@plymouth.ac.uk, ThThornton@aol.com, tumakw@muohio.edu, lawrence.upton@britishlibrary.net, web.star@virgin.net, sks_bw@finlit.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just out from La Alameda Press / University of New Mexico Press: RUE WILSON MONDAY=20 Poems by Anselm Hollo 7 x 9 inches 112 pages ISBN 1-888809-22-1 $14.00 =93Anselm Hollo is this era=92s most clearsighted, uncommonly cosmopolitan=20 upholder of diurnal poetry=92s cardinal rule: wax observant and follow the=20 bouncing song. Witness this sonnet sequence, its steady energy pouring=20 across the page.=94 -- Bill Berkson =93It is a beautifully collaged daybook sequence, careening between inspired= =20 goo-goo language that turns into absolute clarity when pronounced aloud and=20 the Normal, i.e. Hollo=92s more lyrical, discursive voice. Very vintage.= =94 -- Alice Notley =93Lovely? Deep? Funny? Angular? Brainy? Conversational? Literary? =20 Goofy? Elegiac? Agile? *And all at the same time?* How does the great=20 Anselm Hollo do it? Read *rue Wilson Monday* and find out!=94 -- Ron Padge= tt Available from your better bookstore, SPD, and the online outlets. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 18:34:41 MST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark DuCharme Subject: Re: Reading in Boulder: Schelling and Pritchett, Nov. 16 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed For some reason, this post didn't get sent to the list (or my in-box, anyway) in its entirety. Following is the complete post as it should have appeared. ............................... *THE LEFT HAND READING SERIES* > presents poets > > ANDREW SCHELLING > & > PATRICK PRITCHETT > >THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 16th > 8:00 p.m. > >in the V ROOM at the DAIRY CENTER FOR THE ARTS > > 2590 Walnut Street, Boulder, CO. > >For more information about the Left Hand Reading Series, call (303) >938-9346 >or (303) 544-5854. > >------- > > Andrew Schelling has been on the faculty of the Jack Kerouac >School of >Disembodied Poetics for ten years, teaching poetry, Sanskrit and >bioregional >writing, and supervising Naropa's letterpress printshop. Poet, essayist, >and >editor, he is also the most acclaimed translator of India's ancient >poetries >in North America, with translation awards from the Academy of American >Poets >and the Witter Bynner Foundation for Poetry. His most recent book of >translations is The Cane Groves of Narmada River: Erotic Poems from Old >India (City Lights). Other books include The Road to Ocosingo (Smokeproof >Press), Old Growth: Poems 1986-1994 (Rodent Press), and the forthcoming Tea >Shack Interior: New & Selected Poetry (Talisman House, Spring 2001). He >has >also recently completed a manuscript of essays titled Wild Form, Savage >Grammar. Works in-progress include a poetry manuscript, Haibun Black Earth >and, with the German poet Stefan Hyner, a multilingual translation of The >Diamond Sutra. Schelling has traveled extensively through India, the >Himalayas, Mexico, and the U.S.A. He lives in Boulder with the poet Anne >Waldman. > > Patrick Pritchett is the author of two chapbooks of poetry: Ark Dive >(Arcturus Editions) and Reside (Dead Metaphor Press). His review of the >work of Anselm Hollo is featured in Andrei Codrescu's Exquisite Corpse >Anthology Thus Spake The Corpse (Black Sparrow, 1999). An essay on the >poet >Ronald Johnson entitled "Location Location Locution: Whitman, Oz, & The >Queering of Place," will appear in the National Poetry Foundation's >critical >anthology Ronald Johnson: Life & Works, due out in 2002. Pritchett's poems >have appeared in Colorado Review, New American Writing, Shiny, Rhizome, >Syllogism, Bombay Gin and Prairie Schooner, among others. A former story >analyst in the film industry, he has written over fifty book and film >reviews for such journals as American Book Review, Witz, Jacket, Rain Taxi >and The Poetry Project Newsletter. A contributing editor for the poetry >journal Facture, Pritchett is a former co-director of the Left Hand Reading >Series in Boulder, and was a featured lecturer on Alice Notley for the 1999 >American Poet Greats series. His latest project is a book-length poem >titled burn: doxology for joan of arc. > > There will be a short Open Reading immediatedly before the featured >readings. Sign up for the Open Reading will take place promptly at 8:00 >p.m. > >------- > > The Left Hand Reading Series is an independent series presenting >readings >of original literary works by emerging and established writers. Founded in >1996 and originally sponsored by Boulder's Left Hand Bookstore, the series >is now curated by poets Mark DuCharme and Laura Wright. Readings in the >series are presented monthly. The Left Hand Reading Series is funded in >part >by grants from the Boulder Arts Commission and the Arts and Humanities >Assembly of Boulder County (AHAB). Upcoming events in the series include >-- > >THURSDAY, DECEMBER 14th: REED BYE, MARK DuCHARME and CHELSEY MINNIS _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:47:57 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Austinwja@AOL.COM Subject: Re: hypertext poetry sites (query) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/10/00 10:44:43 AM, trbell@HOME.COM writes: << is innovation still desirable? what about quality? tom bell >> I, for one, have always appreciated innovation in any and all disciplines. But I would appreciate some feedback on the following. Is what is generally considered innovative poetry by most list members still innovative? The last four decades have given us a truckload of formalist experiments, all of which have sources in poetry ancient, or at least not so modern. That's fine and no doubt unavoidable. After all, only nothing is made out of nothing. But does this emphasis on formal/visual elements "blind" us to other ways of being innovative? I've encountered list members who have all but dismissed Frank O'Hara, for example, as less than innovative, merely because his experimental impulse was more focused on tone (attitude?) and subject matter. On the other hand, it's probably true that we all labor under certain prejudices. Maybe list members might speculate on what is coming next. Where do we go from here? Are most younger artists genuinely innovative, or just joiners? How long do we continue on the same road, wherever it's located--whatever it's "movement," before we risk looking geriatric? As for quality, how equipped is anyone to judge it beyond obvious grammatical errors and internal contradictions? Most, if not all, qualifying judgments of art have always been colored by subjective tastes and assumptions. Aristotle, as one example, would probably have dismissed much contemporary art for failing to follow the rules--his rules. Anyway, the most interesting discussions can issue from interrogations that can never be responded to in absolute terms. Best, Bill ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:18:06 -0000 Reply-To: charles@siliconcapital.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Charles Subject: Poem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need a poem about Spring season for my daughter to partcipate in a contest. Can you able to help. Thanks. Regards, Charles Louis, IT Manager, Silicon Capital Limited 8 Duncannon Street London WC2N 4JF United Kingdom Direct line +44 207 484 5408 Fax +44 20 7681 2330 Switchboard +44 20 7484 5401 email:charles@siliconcapital.com The content of this email is confidential to the intended recipient(s) and may be legally privileged. 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This message is provided for information purposes only and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:54:22 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Re: hypertext poetry sites (query) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit trAce online very international online writers groups, lotsa workshops, online meetings & discussion & other activity http://trace.ntu.ac.uk/ electronic literature organization directory a recent directory of hypertext & hypermedia projects, good place to start to get an overview of what is out there http://directory.eliterature.org/ webartery both an email list & a diverse assembling of hypermedia artists & writers, a very accessible friendly group http://webartery.com/defib/webarterymembers.htm electronic poetry center better than a dusty bookstore, thee place on the net to encounter new & innovative writing http://writing.upenn.edu/epc/ "Clark D. Lunberry" wrote: > I know of the Ubuweb site (www.ubuweb.com), but for the purposes of a class > I'm teaching, I'm seeking out other such websites where poetry--work > intended primarily to be read/seen on the internet, exploring at least in > part innovations available by the medium--can be found. Any suggestions on > where I might look? > > Clark Lunberry > Milwaukee ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:51:37 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Austinwja@AOL.COM Subject: hello Richard Taylor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Richard Taylor wrote: "P.S. Where's me mate Bill Austin these days? Being an acco he's probably off on a sabbatical." ------------------------- Hi Richard! Actually, I've been trying to post, but due to a computer glitch I end up voting for Buchanan. Okay, just kidding. Actually I've been buried in essays and exams, committee work, and my own research. Good to feel missed, my friend. Hope all goes well with you, and with everyone on the list. Best, Bill ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:43:31 -0800 Reply-To: arshile@earthlink.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark Salerno Organization: Arshile: A Magazine of the Arts Subject: Contact Info for Gilbert Sorrentino? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Colleagues: I'd appreciate a back channel reply from anyone with contact information for Gilbert Sorrentino. Thank you. Mark Salerno ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:17:51 +1300 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "richard.tylr" Subject: The Dilemma of a Street Richard Taylor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Dilemma of A Street She watched. In her dilemma of a street, she watched. "That man", = she conclued, "shall never wear a suit. Such a free man, so swish, = so...so..."I am me" " She thought. But (and or) the blue edges of eternity's sky unrolled. "Who cares?" = it seemed to say, as in a dream there are beings that always in blazing = gold and vermilion snaking skeins do seem to seem. Away. (Pieces are = being moved as Great Preparations proceed.) And dust gathers expectant as movements outward in expansive guesture = prove quite otherwise the hopeful and logical lights. Cars and men do endless pass. "If I could lean forth and smile and nod and slightly lean and touch my = hand on or above his knee would he be mine or he be me?" That is, if, = say, we sat beside each other one hour in a pub? But a chuckle comes from a far quark of bitter men from a cynic dark: = for all are words and whirling webs where something sucks in geney joy. And yet - I believe (at least) this hedge before me, its light. Cars and things to endless pass in this espace. And we traverse various rivers of forgetting us until so many = assembled, died in old dreams, or did disappear. And (quite forcefully = now), torrents of red are aquirted from mortal living tubes; as cars do = pass, and strange and Goyic figures do contorted dance and dance. They dance and laugh and pass, as indifferent magic music plays.=20 R. Taylor. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:34:12 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: William Slaughter Subject: Notice: Mudlark In-Reply-To: <00c601c04a81$96ab01c0$13c3b3d1@michael> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII New and On View: Mudlark Poster No. 29 (2000) Synopticon | Louis Armand and John Kinsella Authors' Note This sequence was composed during the course of an e-mail correspondence and remains an on-going project. Each piece is the outcome of numerous promptings and erasures, sorties, advances, feints, overwritings and defacements, pastiches and parodies, rendering a "synoptical" text whose authorship is ultimately anonymous (--in this sense "John Kinsella" and "Louis Armand" function merely as ciphers). About the Authors Louis Armand is an Australian writer and artist currently living in Prague, where he lectures at Charles University. His work has appeared in various journals, including Poetry Revue, Sulfur, Meanjin and Heat. His most recent publication is Erosions (Sydney: Vagabond Press, 1999). A collection of Poetry, Inexorable Weather, and volume of experimental prose, The Garden, are forthcoming in 2000 from Arc and Salt respectively (both in the UK). He is poetry editor of The Prague Revue, and editor of the literary broadsheet Plastic (Semtext). John Kinsella was born in Western Australia in 1963 and is the author of twenty books, most recently: Poems 1980-1994 (Bloodaxe, 1998); The Hunt (Bloodaxe, 1998), a Poetry Book Society Recommendation; Visitants (Bloodaxe, 1999); a novel, Genre (FACP, 1997); a volume of short fiction, Grappling Eros (FACP, 1998); and an anthology of contemporary Australian poetry, Landbridge (Arc, 2000). He is the editor of the international literary journal Salt, co-editor of the British literary journal Stand, and International Editor of the American journal The Kenyon Review. He is currently a member of the Nobel Museum Literary Committee in Stokholm. Spread the word. Far and wide, William Slaughter _________________ MUDLARK An Electronic Journal of Poetry & Poetics Never in and never out of print... E-mail: mudlark@unf.edu URL: http://www.unf.edu/mudlark ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:06:48 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Anselm Hollo Subject: announcement Comments: To: baratier@megsinet.net, bernstei@bway.net, MCardarelli@boyslatinmd.com, Chrcorrea@aol.com, sclay@granarybooks.com, ACodrescu@aol.com, Atticus40@aol.com, Bowdoin@bellatlantic.net, jkld@earthlink.net, Thalia_Field@hotmail.com, freyj@spot.colorado.edu, agil@erols.com, mgizzi@massed.net, bob@writingandediting.com, lastshow@lastshow.demon.co.uk, mitch.highfill@db.com, turbeville@earthlink.net, huntl@un.org, jarnot@pipeline.com, joris@csc.albany.edu, kelly@bard.edu, levitsk@ibm.net, anonyme@concentric.net, pomowen@ix.netcom.com, RonPadgettPoet@aol.com, simonp@pipeline.com, poetics@acsu.buffalo.edu, roxieann@home.com, LaurieP@compuserve.com, gquasha@stationhill.org, edsanders@ulster.net, harris4@idt.net, rani22@earthlink.net, AERIALEDGE@aol.com, sukenick@spot.colorado.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit READINGS: THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 16, 2000 6 PM ANNE WALDMAN ANSELM HOLLO TIM DAVIS Performances by Ken Habarta, Brian Balott, and more ... at FULL SERVE: Curated by Kenny Schachter 547 West 27th St., garage New York, NY 10001 212 807 6669 Presented by Mixed Greens and Kenny Schachter/Rove RoveTV.net Mixedgreens.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 16:14:51 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Bertha Rogers Subject: NOVEMBER UPDATE NYS LIT TREE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Here it is -- the November update for New York State's Literary Organizations, Events, Curators, and Writers, brought to you by Bright Hill Press, in partnership with the New York State Council on the Arts. Each month the site adds new organizations, curators, and writers -- if your literary organization is not included; if you're a writer with a book and you're not listed; if you're a literary curator, and your events are not included; if you're an independent literary publisher of books or periodic journals and you're not part of the Poulin Project pages on the site, email us at wordthur@catskill.net, and we'll tell you how to be listed. (It's easiest for us to include your information if you cut and paste your information into the email.) Questions? Comments? We'd love to hear from you. Bertha Rogers, Site Administrator ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:27:30 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Bertha Rogers Subject: November update web site address MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The web site address for the New York State Literary Curators Web Site is http://www.nyslittree.org. Enjoy! Bertha Rogers, Site Administrator ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:03:24 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dodie Bellamy Subject: Re: body memoirs In-Reply-To: <007901c049fc$34e4a5c0$e8ce56d1@na.nai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I wanted to thank you all for your very helpful suggestions re: body memoirs. They will greatly help me expand my range of reading options. I don't need all that many selections, no more than a dozen, as this is mostly a writing workshop. Rather focus closer on a few things, as opposed to the craft classes where we read like crazy. Anyway, thinking about all of this and looking through works that have meant a lot to me that deal with the body, and having this limitation of the class focusing on "nonfiction," I'm struck by how much of the most interesting writing on the body is labeled as fiction, even in many current books, such as Michelle Tea's Valencia or Rebecca Brown's The Gift of the Body, in which I suspect the only thing fictional is the punctuation. So, I'm wondering why so much current writing that deals with the body that is clearly personal-experienced based is labeled as fiction--particularly since, given the publishing climate, nonfiction is rumored to be easier to get published--and look at the amount of novelization that clearly goes on in popular memoirs, such as The Liar's Club. In Eileen Myles' new book, not only is Eileen a character, but her entire family is, and it's still labeled fiction. This can also often be said it be true of my own work. Or taking it to poetry, works like Harryette Mullen's Trimmings--is this representing the poeticized body rather than the nonfiction body? I am planning to ask these people about this issue, but I was wondering if anybody here has any thoughts on this. And then, there's the broader issue--how can one have a nonfiction body as opposed to a fictionalized body when the body itself is so resistant to language. This seems to be one place where those foolish genre divisions immediately collapse. And, of course, if we look at people like Judith Butler, we could, perhaps, extend gender deconstruction and say that The Body is a fiction. Thanks again. Dodie ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:27:47 +1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Caroline Subject: survey 7 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Outlet (7) Survey > > 1. Who is your favorite obscure(d) female author > (and why)? Violette Le Duc, for her perverse egoism. > > 2. Name 3 of your favorite female literary > characters. Eliza Peabody Therese Hedwig Volkbein > 3. In which historical period would you prefer to be > writing and living, if any? I would like to write in the 1950's, and live now. > > Thanks! Carolyn van Langenberg 14 Bridges Street Blackheath NSW 2785 AUSTRALIA ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 03:13:32 +1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: komninos zervos Subject: Re: Poetic Recipes In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" =only if you believe you have to be published to be a poet, in that case, does only the written printed word have value? what about all the other poetries, spoken, viewed and on the web(cyberpoetries)? but, i agree, published poets are becoming redundant, so is published poetry. i believe it is because published poetry has become predictable in form and content and quite frankly, boring. haiku, limerick, sonnet, bush ballad, freestyle, all forms almost tell you what they are by the way they look on a page, even before you read. the of-the-moment poetic experience is diminished when the text is fixed and printed in a book. try it, pick up any poetry anthology and try and predict the kind of poem by its shape on the page. poetry is not being read as a recreational activity any longer, but read for scholastic purposes. but people are still experiencing poetry, people still attend readings/soundings, there is a huge amount of activity on the web with various forms of animated text, interactive texts and random text generators, not to mention all the collaborative projects happening across networks. performance poetry or spoken word poetry may bring the unpredictability to the poetry experience, not seeing the words written until they are spoken, which has kept this area of poetry interesting. it may also bring authorial presence to the experience, to enliven the experience, and certainly fulfills a role as entertainment. at the live reading often a combination of things come together to make unique of- the-moment poetic experiences, a poets words, the way they said them at the time, how the listener was feeling, the sound of the coffee machine, the environment of the room, the occassion for the sounding, the context of the sounding. this of the-moment experience of words is no more evident than in cyberspace, and it is the performative qualities or devices that we now attach to words by way of software that makes poetry in this medium interesting to me today. poetry is performing itself, even creating itself, without the presence of the poet to perform it. and i don't just mean digitised recordings of poets performing, i mean poems in which the device of motion can be added to a word to combine with and make new meaning. i mean poems which receive text input from the reader/user and from the author, and from a random text generation software, and combine the texts to create a new text. i mean poetry that responds to user input, allows alternate navigations of the text, image, sound and animation. but maybe you meant "i am" is the redundancy komninos At 08:26 PM 11/9/00 -0700, you wrote: >> I'm a published poet > >Isnt that a redundancy? >-- >George Bowering >Fax 604-266-9000 > komninos's cyberpoetry site http://student.uq.edu.au/~s271502 cyberpoet@slv site http://www.experimedia.vic.gov.au/cyberpoet/ komninos zervos, tel. +61 7 55 948602 lecturer in cyberstudies, school of arts, gold coast campus, griffith university, pmb 50, gold coast mail centre queensland, 9726 australia. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 14:58:24 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: derek beaulieu Subject: George Bowering's new chapbook from housepress MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit housepress is please to announce the publication of: "Six Little Poems in Alphabetical Order" by George Bowering Limited handbound edition of 65 numbered copies with handprinted linocut printed 130 lb. mayfair covers. $6.00 ea. for more information, or to order copies contact: derek beaulieu housepress@home.com George Bowering was born in Penticton, British Columbia, in 1935. After serving as a photographer in the RCAF, Bowering attended the University of British Columbia. There he met Frank Davey, Fred Wah, David Dawson and James Reid, with whom he started "TISH." He later founded "Imago" and is a contributing editor for "Open Letter." Bowering has taught at the University of Calgary, University of Western Ontario, and now teaches at Simon Fraser University in Vancouver. Bowering is well recognized as one of Canada's most prolific writers of poetry, short stories, and novels with over forty titles. Bowering won the 1969 Governor General's Literary Award for poetry for "The Gangs of Kosmos" and "Rocky Mountain Foot." He won the GG for fiction in 1980 for his novel "Burning Water." He is also nominated for the 2000 Governor General's Literary Award for poetry for "His Life: A Poem." ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 09:27:10 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: owner-realpoetik@SCN.ORG Subject: RealPoetik Travis Ray Cole Post-election triste from our Travis Ray Cole, who can be reached at oeoeoe@usa.net. "Only After" I kiss Robbin good morning and she bitches "You should'nt do that" her breath like mace I pull the curtain in the shower and pull the handle to vote for her, even though I have already sold my vote five times to a nice little old lady who just so happened to be an election judge, but promised to only use the votes on sundays at the social service workers againt bingo players protest kegger. I mix a big box of dried powdered milk with rusty lead wastewater fresh out of the tap {some of that is bait} and then I stir it into a big bowl of Exxon brand breakfast cereal with little firestone tire floaties {thats what the Astronauts eat in space} I dig inside looking for the prize and cut out the invalid priceline coupons for gasoline off the side of the box only after I drew a path through the maze of oil slicks and I look for the hidden words on the back of the box heres money,theres war,death, and heres stockpile,and theres one sided news coverage. Next I read the paper none of my exwives have died or won the lottery but heres something in the classifieds to dream about the ad reads FOR SALE.... a mint condition Illinois Deptment of Public Aid 1993 issue Food Stamp $7000,serious inquires only. Travis Ray Cole ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:33:02 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: levitsk@ATTGLOBAL.NET Subject: Dec 1 Belladonna: Berssenbrugge, Prevallet, Wright MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable BELLADONNA* 7:00 pm FRIDAY=97DECEMBER 1, 2000 =20 Mei-mei Berssenbrugge Empathy, Endocrinology, Four Year Old Girl Kristin Prevallet The Parasite Poems, Perturbation My Sister Laura Wright=20 Hide: What=92s Difficult, Where Hunger is a Place at Bluestockings Women's Bookstore =20 172 Allen Street =20 between Rivington and Stanton =20 on the Lower East Side of Manhattan =20 Contact: (212)777-6028 for more information =20 ------------------------- http://www.theeastvillageeye.com/belladonna/index.htm=20 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:46:59 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: { brad brace } Subject: UPDATE: The 12hr ISBN-JPEG Project In-Reply-To: <200011100511.eAA5Bwi26068@get.wired.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" _______ _ __ ___ _ |__ __| | /_ |__ \| | | | | |__ ___ | | ) | |__ _ __ | | | '_ \ / _ \ | | / /| '_ \| '__| | | | | | | __/ | |/ /_| | | | | |_| |_| |_|\___| |_|____|_| |_|_| _____ _____ ____ _ _ _ _____ ______ _____ |_ _|/ ____| _ \| \ | | | | __ \| ____/ ____| | | | (___ | |_) | \| |______ | | |__) | |__ | | __ | | \___ \| _ <| . ` |______| | | ___/| __|| | |_ | _| |_ ____) | |_) | |\ | | |__| | | | |___| |__| | |_____|_____/|____/|_| \_| \____/|_| |______\_____| | __ \ (_) | | | |__) | __ ___ _ ___ ___| |_ | ___/ '__/ _ \| |/ _ \/ __| __| | | | | | (_) | | __/ (__| |_ |_| |_| \___/| |\___|\___|\__| _/ | |__/ > > > > Synopsis: The 12hr-ISBN-JPEG Project began December 30, 1994. A `round-the-clock posting of sequenced hypermodern imagery by Brad Brace. The hypermodern minimizes the familiar, the known, the recognizable; it suspends identity, relations and history. The 12-hour ISBN JPEG Project ----------------------------- began December 30, 1994 Pointless Hypermodern Imagery... posted/mailed every 12 hours... a stellar, trajective alignment past the 00`s! A continuum of minimalist masks in the face of catastrophe; conjuring up transformative metaphors for the everyday... A poetic reversibility of events... A post-rhetorical, continuous, apparently random sequence of imagery... genuine gritty, greyscale... corruptable, compact, collectable and compelling convergence. The voluptuousness of the grey imminence: the art of making the other disappear. Continual visual impact; an optical drumming, sculpted in duration, on the endless present of the Net. An extension of the printed ISBN-Book (0-9690745) series... critically unassimilable... imagery is gradually acquired, selected and re-sequenced over time... ineluctable, vertiginous connections. The 12hr dialtone... [ see ftp.idiom.com/users/bbrace/netcom/books ] KEYWORDS: >> Disconnected, disjunctive, distended, de-centered, de-composed, ambiguous, augmented, ambilavent, homogeneous, reckless... >> Multi-faceted, oblique, obsessive, obscure, obdurate... >> Promulgated, personal, permeable, prolonged, polymorphous, provocative, poetic, plural, perverse, potent, prophetic, pathological... >> Evolving, eccentric, eclectic, egregious, exciting, entertaining, entropic, erotic, entrancing, enduring... Every 12 hours, another!... view them, re-post `em, save `em, trade `em, print `em, even publish them... Here`s how: ~ Set www-links to -> http://www.teleport.com/~bbrace/12hr.html. Look for the 12-hr-icon. Heavy traffic may require you to specify files more than once! Anarchie, Fetch, CuteFTP, TurboGopher... Or -> http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/12hr.html ~ Download from -> ftp.pacifier.com /pub/users/bbrace Download from -> ftp.idiom.com/users/bbrace Download from -> ftp.teleport.com /users/bbrace Download from -> ftp.rdrop.com /pub/users/bbrace Download from -> ftp.eskimo.com /u/b/bbrace * Remember to set tenex or binary. Get 12hr.jpeg ~ E-mail -> If you only have access to email, then you can use FTPmail to do essentially the same thing. Send a message with a body of 'help' to the server address nearest you: ftpmail@ccc.uba.ar ftpmail@cs.uow.edu.au ftpmail@ftp.uni-stuttgart.de ftpmail@ftp.Dartmouth.edu ftpmail@ieunet.ie ftpmail@src.doc.ic.ac.uk ftpmail@archie.inesc.pt ftpmail@ftp.sun.ac.za ftpmail@ftp.sunet.se ftpmail@ftp.luth.se ftpmail@NCTUCCCA.edu.tw ftpmail@oak.oakland.edu ftpmail@sunsite.unc.edu ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com ftpmail@census.gov bitftp@plearn.bitnet bitftp@dearn.bitnet bitftp@vm.gmd.de bitftp@plearn.edu.pl bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu bitftp@pucc.bitnet ~ Mirror-sites requested! Archives too! The latest new jpeg will always be named, 12hr.jpeg Average size of images is only 45K. * Perl program to mirror ftp-sites/sub-directories: src.doc.ic.ac.uk:/packages/mirror * ~ Postings to usenet groups: alt.12hr alt.binaries.pictures.12hr alt.binaries.pictures.misc alt.binaries.pictures.fine-art.misc * * Ask your system's news-administrator to carry these groups! (There are also usenet image browsers: TIFNY, PluckIt, Picture Agent, PictureView, Extractor97, NewsRover, Binary News Assistant, Newsfeeds) ~ This interminable, relentless sequence of imagery began in earnest on December 30, 1994. The basic structure of the project has been over twenty-four years in the making. While the specific sequence of photographs has been presently orchestrated for more than 12 years` worth of 12-hour postings, I will undoubtedly be tempted to tweak the ongoing publication with additional new interjected imagery. Each 12-hour posting is like the turning of a page; providing ample time for reflection, interruption, and assimilation. ~ The sites listed above also contain information on other transcultural projects and sources. ~ A very low-volume, moderated mailing list for announcements and occasional commentary related to this project has been established at topica.com /subscribe 12hr-isbn-jpeg -- This project has not received government art-subsidies. Some opportunities still exist for financially assisting the publication of editions of large (36x48") prints; perhaps (Iris giclees) inkjet quadtones bound as an oversize book. Other supporters receive rare copies of the first three web-offset printed ISBN-Books. -- ISBN is International Standard Book Number. JPEG and GIF are types of image files. Get the text-file, 'pictures-faq' to learn how to view or translate these images. [ftp ftp.idiom.com/users/bbrace/netcom/] -- (c) No copyright 1994,1995,1996,1997,1998,1999,2000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:27:10 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Avery Burns Subject: Canessa Park 11/19/00 Armantrout & Strang MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Canessa Park Reading Series 708 Montgomery Street San Francisco, CA Admission $5 Sunday November 19th, 2000 @ 5 pm Rae Armantrout & Brian Strang RAE ARMANTROUT is currently the writer in residence at CCAC (California College of Arts and Crafts). She is on the faculty of U.C. San Diego. Two poetry collections are due out soon The Pretext (Green Integer) and Veil: New and Selected poems on Wesleyan. A book of essays about Armantrout’s work called A Wild Salience: The Writing of Raw Armantrout came out this year on Burning Press. BRIAN STRANG is the author of movement of avenues in rows from a+bend press and A Draft of L Cavatinas (Letters to Ez) from Potes and Poets Press. Some of his recent work can be found in Syllogism, Kenning and Windhover. Hope to see you there, Avery E. D. Burns Literary Director __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:53:05 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kristen Gallagher Subject: Rust Talks 4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RUST TALKS 4 Thursday November 16, 2000 8 pm Rust Belt Books 202 Allen Street Buffalo, NY featuring KATHRYN WICHELNS and MEGHAN SWEENEY, giving a talk entitled "Wegmans Culture, or 'Nonna may give up baking when she tastes these dainty treats!" Possible topics include: * domestic life or 1000 straight things to do with a knife * the plan implemented, just dont photo the chocolate covered demented * careful to squeeze bread in 50 states or the meat cum lately to arrest said * innofate - what you blate - clip clip - see one buy oneself in the store Note: This event is not sponsored by Wegmans. check out our website at http://epc.buffalo.edu/ezines/rust RUST TALKS is edited and curated by Kristen Gallagher and Tim Shaner (with obvious thanks to Louis Cabri) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:35:40 -0600 Reply-To: RDrake Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: RDrake Subject: Re: How2 current issue, featuring essay on Rae Armantrout MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Friends: Pleased to notice that Brenda Hillman's essay "Crossing The Garden: Rae Armantrout's Metaphysics" appears in the current issue of How2. This essay originally appeared in "A Wild Salience: The Writing of Rae Armantrout", published by Burning Press earlier this year. There's another complete essay from the book available from the book's webpage, http://www.burningpress.org/armantrout: Hank Lazer's "Lyricism of the Swerve" (in PDF format). We still have a few copies of the book available for sale; it includes additional essays by Lyn Hejinian, Laura Moriarty, Aldon L. Nielsen, Rachel Blau DuPlessis, Fanny, Ann, Susan Wheeler, Lydia Davis, Jessica Grim, Kit Robinson, Robert Creeley, Bobbie West, Tom Beckett, David Bromige, Charles Alexander, Bob Perelman, and Ron Silliman. Plus poems by Rae and her friends. This is a rare opportunity to support independent publishers producing book-length studies of writers who are still alive. Books make great gifts... Complete ordering information is available on the website, but the short version is: $15 to Burning Press, PO Box 585, Cleveland OH 44107. Thanks for your support, luigi-bob drake Burning Press > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Linda Russo > To: > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 9:15 PM > Subject: How2 current issue & archive on the web > > > > ================================================ > > How2.How2.How2.How2.How.2.How2.How2.How2.How2.How2 > > ================================================ > > > > NOW ON-LINE > > > > How2 : n.4 > > > > Continuing to read & report on innovative writing and scholarship > > by contemporary and modernist women . interviews . mixed media > > > > > > Editor/Publisher: Kathleen Fraser > > Mg. Editor: Jo Ann Wasserman, Webmaster: Roberta Sims > > > > How2 http://www.departments.bucknell.edu/stadler_center/how2 > > For further info: , > > =============================================== > > > > In this issue > > ------------ > > *new writing portfolio, guest-edited by Carla Harryman > > > > *"livres de poetes"--one-of-a-kind poets' books, curated by Dale Going > > > > *excerpts from _My Paris_ by Gail Scott, with interview by Corey Frost > > > > *forum: Taking Risks in Critical Writing--impermissable in the academy?? > > > > *in-conference: featuring Part 2 papers from contemporary> > poets panel, presented at "New Modernisms"/Penn State, Fall 1999: Sara > > Lundquist/Guest & HD; Kimberly Lamm/Hurston & Stein; Nesrun Eruysal/HD; > > Jenny Goodman/Breaking the Epic Taboo; Edward Lintz/ Andrewes & Stein; > > Carolyn Maun/E. Scott; Heather Thomas/Waldman > > > > *Italian poetry-in-translation: Patrizia Vicinelli, trans. by Carla > > Billitteri; > > & Italian scholars reading Anglo/American modernist writers: Marina > > Camboni on D. Marsdon; Annalisa Goldoni on S. Glaspell; Marina Morbiducci > > on G. Stein; Renata Morresi on N. Cunard > > > > *reading/s: Ann Vickery, "Leaving Lines of Gender"; interview of > > film-maker/choreographer Yvonne Rainer by Wendy Tronrud; Hilda Bronstein > on > > Mina Loy's Insel; Linda Russo on Joanne Kyger; Brenda Hillman on Rae > > Armantrout. > > > > *Visual Portfolios and Mixed Media: "Line become approximate form," Jane > > Dalrymple-Hollo; "4 Saints 3 Acts" painting-collage series, Gonzalo > Tena/G. > > Stein; "Glass Book," Laurie Price; C. Harryman/E.Wold adaptation of Max > > Ernst opera "A little girl takes the veil" > > > > *alerts/informal reviews: S. Fatal on N. Saurraute (a memoir); > > B. Fritz-Goldberg on J. Valentine; C. Hogue on H. Thomas; C. Hume on > > P. Sharma; C. Kasper on T. Field; E. McVarish on J. Drucker; R. Quereshi > > on L. Hejinian; Tarlo & Gregory on Collecott's HD; B.Tsao on K. Hahn; > > K. Degentesh on J. Fuhrman > > ______________________ > > HOW(ever) & How2 ARCHIVE > > ______________________ > > > > Back issues of How2, numbers 1-3 [Feb/99-Feb/00] may be accessed at the > > HOW(ever) Archive, housed at the Rutgers University Electronic Library, > > via LINK from the How2 Home Page. > > > > Complete issues of HOW(ever)--the print journal, published between > > 1983-1992, may also be found via the H2 home page LINK. > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:47:22 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: tom bell Subject: Re: hypertext poetry sites (query) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Glitzy gadgets ratchet Our world along to..... Alas, . tom ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 7:47 PM Subject: Re: hypertext poetry sites (query) > In a message dated 11/10/00 10:44:43 AM, trbell@HOME.COM writes: > > << is innovation still desirable? what about quality? > > tom bell > > >> > > I, for one, have always appreciated innovation in any and all disciplines. > But I would appreciate some feedback on the following. Is what is generally > considered innovative poetry by most list members still innovative? The last > four decades have given us a truckload of formalist experiments, all of which > have sources in poetry ancient, or at least not so modern. That's fine and > no doubt unavoidable. After all, only nothing is made out of nothing. But > does this emphasis on formal/visual elements "blind" us to other ways of > being innovative? I've encountered list members who have all but dismissed > Frank O'Hara, for example, as less than innovative, merely because his > experimental impulse was more focused on tone (attitude?) and subject matter. > On the other hand, it's probably true that we all labor under certain > prejudices. Maybe list members might speculate on what is coming next. > Where do we go from here? Are most younger artists genuinely innovative, or > just joiners? How long do we continue on the same road, wherever it's > located--whatever it's "movement," before we risk looking geriatric? As for > quality, how equipped is anyone to judge it beyond obvious grammatical errors > and internal contradictions? Most, if not all, qualifying judgments of art > have always been colored by subjective tastes and assumptions. Aristotle, as > one example, would probably have dismissed much contemporary art for failing > to follow the rules--his rules. Anyway, the most interesting discussions can > issue from interrogations that can never be responded to in absolute terms. > Best, Bill > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:27:37 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Re: hypertext poetry sites (query) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is a LOT of innovative work out there - look at the material on the Webartery list or 7-11 - Integer (NN), Mez, I'd put my own work there, some of what jodi has done etc. There's a discussion on Webartery about this at the moment. Look at Talan Memmott's work - or that of Jim Andrews or Steve Duffy or Brian Lennon, Mez, Jim Andrews, Tom Bell, Reiner Strasser, etc. etc. As long as one keeps within the boundaries of traditional avant-garde poetics and poetry, formalist or not formalist, one will have these dis- cussions and disagreements, etc. As soon as one steps out and looks around (for example the poems written in Perl language in, I think, Programming Perl as another example), there are all sorts of amazing things going on. And I might add not necessarily by "younger" writers - this again can easily descend into ageism. Look at work which is dynamic or with active open hyperlinks or Java or Javscript work or work which floods through the wires or takes over your computer or adds sound and movement or uses characters under continuous transformation or uses Flash or simply uses coding and programming as catalysis or is written through all sorts of new means of collaboration or uses MOOs or MUDs or various chatforms as a way of generating or perform- ing text or even uses routers and routings, writings tranversing the planet in split second or writings which portend expanded bandwidth and body to come - the pinging of Stelarc's body etc. etc. a few years ago. Even if one is only talking about lower ascii on the page, there is still the work of Mez and NN - incredibly innovative! Why is all of this not CENTRAL to a discussion of Poetics? Ah well! Innovation is everywhere online; it can be very very close to a renaissance! Alan Internet Text at http://www.anu.edu.au/english/internet_txt Partial at http://lists.village.virginia.edu/~spoons/internet_txt.html Trace Projects at http://trace.ntu.ac.uk/writers/sondheim/index.htm CDROM of collected work 1994-2000/1 available: write sondheim@panix.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:31:32 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Safdie Joseph Subject: Re: Poem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Now HERE'S a real opportunity. I hope Mr. Louis' e-mail is flooded with eager applicants for this job. Just out of curiosity, how much is the IT Manager for Silicon Capital Limited willing to PAY for the privilege of having a real Poetics List member write him a real poem about "the spring season"? And will his daughter use said poem as her own, "sampling," as it were, the contents? Would the poet be offered round-trip air fare to counsel the daughter for the contest? I'd been pretty discouraged about the level of discourse on the List lately, but this opens all sorts of new panoramas. -----Original Message----- From: Charles [mailto:charles@SILICONCAPITAL.COM] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 5:18 AM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Poem I need a poem about Spring season for my daughter to partcipate in a contest. Can you able to help. Thanks. Regards, Charles Louis, IT Manager, Silicon Capital Limited 8 Duncannon Street London WC2N 4JF United Kingdom Direct line +44 207 484 5408 Fax +44 20 7681 2330 Switchboard +44 20 7484 5401 email:charles@siliconcapital.com The content of this email is confidential to the intended recipient(s) and may be legally privileged. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact Silicon Capital Ltd. quoting the name of the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. Please note that neither Silicon Capital Ltd. nor the author accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is the recipient's responsibility to scan attachments (if any). No contracts may be concluded on behalf of Silicon Capital Ltd. or the author by means of email communications unless they are digitally signed. This email has been prepared using information believed by the author to be reliable and accurate, but Silicon Capital Ltd. does not accept any liability as to the accuracy or completeness of the contents of this email. In particular, Silicon Capital Ltd. does not accept responsibility for changes made to this email after it was sent. Any opinions expressed in this document are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Silicon Capital Ltd. This message is provided for information purposes only and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:39:02 +1300 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "richard.tylr" Subject: Re: don't forget to vote and why the divisions? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John. I see now. I was talking to someone in a technical field and realised that the by products could in fact include more concentrated isotopes. It looks as tho neither coal-fired or nuclear are very healthy. So I see your point. But, to switch a bit, I think its a good thing if "poetics" slides off into politics and thus into scientific or technical areas. I enjoy studying literature and poetry as on there own so to speak, but at a certain point a certain amount of technical or scientific knowledge helps, even if one is only an "intelligent amateur". Similarly technical or business college people might benefit from some lit. etc Sometimes I wished I'd had the the old British style education as I'd like to have been "versed" in the major classics,have read Greek and other languages, etc But one notices the distortions that arise with writers like Pound who have little scientific knowledge, or Eliot - however that (knowledge) (conversly) doesnt stop scientists from coming to ridiculous conclusions. But Its a pity somehow the way we separate everything into "that's poetics" or "that's philosophy" or "science" or "that's politics". Maybe for time and convenience sake that's the way it has to be, most times. How clear are the divisions? Regards, Richard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Poch" To: Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 7:57 AM Subject: Re: don't forget to vote and where's Bill Austin > No. Not coal. I meant radioactivity. Uranium, in other words. They extract > it from coal, you know. But this isn't about poetics, so this is the last > post on this subject for me. > > -----Original Message----- > From: richard.tylr [mailto:richard.tylr@XTRA.CO.NZ] > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 3:14 AM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: don't forget to vote and where's Bill Austin > > > Al. (Is it?) I think you mean that coal plants put more carbon dioxide into > the air, which some scientists maintain is harmful.(Because of global > warming which is a pretty nebulous theory and open to debate as to whether > its actually a problem or is occurring). But for engineers its probably > easier to design a safe coal plant than a nuclear plant.(Which when they > melt down, as one or two will on average about every 150 years for sure, has > terrible effects in case anyone forgets Chernobyl or 3 Mile Island). The > best bet ultimately is more research into the efficiency of electric > generators (which are motors in reverse). An enormous amount of potential > energy is wasted or lost in electric motors/generators which could > (theoretically) push large trucks along. Diesel-electric trains still use a > significant amount of oil (via diesel (and oil) - which is fundamentally > the same as coal. But electric cars etc say and utilising solar energy (with > very advanced generator systems) would mean less polution etc (and noise). > But it looks as tho its all rather acco now. If I was American I'd probably > vote for Gore. When I think of Bush I think: CIA! Anyway, its all very > controversial now. People go on hoping that one pathetic vote every > (3years?) is going to change things, and I include myself. But then the > Politicos turn out to be bullshit artists. So very little changes. > All that aside, I hope things are going well for everyone, Richard. P.S. > Where's me mate Bill Austin these days? Being an acco he's probably off on a > sabbatical. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Poch" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 9:41 AM > Subject: Re: don't forget to vote > > > > Amen, enough of narrowminded voters who are deluded and fairly uninformed. > > Can Al Gore tell me what exactly "Clean Coal" is and exactly why we should > > tear down mountains in West Virginia (where people live) and not touch > > Alaska (where people also live)? Did you know that coal burning plants > put > > five times the amount of radioactivity into the air as compared with > nuclear > > plants? Clean coal. Good one, Al. > > > > Think, people. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Aaron Belz [mailto:aaron@BELZ.NET] > > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 9:29 AM > > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU > > Subject: Re: don't forget to vote > > > > > > Well as long as we're talking about Al Gore, here's a dandy screed-- > > > > http://www.observer.com/pages/frontpage5.asp > > > > > > > > > > > From: Fiona Maazel > > > Subject: don't forget to vote > > > > > > Look, I know it's evil to be sending this mail out to all you people, > but > > I am > > > very worried about next week's election. And since I'll be out all week > > > canvassing voters unlikely to make it to the polls, I thought I could > also > > > send this mail out to remind everyone to vote. (And vote for Gore, I > > hope). My > > > apologies if I'm offending anyone. Really. > > > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:46:43 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: tom bell Subject: Re: hypertext poetry sites (query) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.var.ndirect.co.uk/varinfo/varintro.html tom bell ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:54:37 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Elizabeth Treadwell Subject: Fitterman & Ngai reading -- SF, this Friday Nov. 17 Comments: cc: WOM-PO@listserv.muohio.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" SMALL PRESS TRAFFIC PRESENTS ROB FITTERMAN & SIANNE NGAI Friday, November 17, 2000, at 8 p.m. An exciting return. People think of ROB FITTERMAN as some kind of new generation "Language" poet, but he might just be the ultimate heir to the great Objectivists instead, for his epic "Metropolis" project marries the music, scope, and power of Louis Zukofsky to the historico-narrative-documentary sweep of Charles Reznikoff. And he's a lot funnier than anything on TV on Friday nights, so come on down! Metropolis Book 1 (1-15) is forthcoming from Sun & Moon Press. Metropolis 16-20 was published by Edge Books, and Metropolis 1-3 by Meow Press. He is also the author of five other books including several collaborations with visual and music artists. He is the editor-publisher of OBJECT journal and P O E T S C O O P, and he lives in New York. SIANNE NGAI's writing piles on layers and layers of contingency and irony, then scrapes them away with a nailfile or cuticle stick till only raw matter remains, a harsh puddle of the real thing. She's what they used to call "painterly." A recent transplant from New York to San Francisco, Ngai is the author of Criteria (O Books), and, with Brian Kim Stefans, The Cosmopolitans (Interlope). Ngai's recent projects include an exchange with poet/filmmaker Abigail Child published in the Philly Talks Newsletter; as co-author with Nancy Shaw, a catalogue essay on Stan Douglas (for the exhibition "Double Vision: Stan Douglas and Douglas Gordon") published by the Dia Center for the Arts; and a new critical essay titled, "Jealous Schoolgirls, Single White Females, and Other Bad Examples: Rethinking Gender and 'Envy'" forthcoming in a future issue of Camera Obscura. Timken Lecture Hall CCAC 1111 Eighth Street, San Francisco (just off the intersection of 16th & Wisconsin) More info: 415-551-9278 http://www.sptraffic.org SPT is now located at the San Francisco campus of the California College of Arts & Crafts. Take the 22 or 19 bus lines, or drive -- from within the city -- down 16th toward the bay, turn left on Wisconsin, and you'll see the big CCAC structure! From the Bay Bridge, take the 9th St/Civic Center offramp, go Left from the offramp onto 8th, Left on Brannan, Right on 7th, Left on Irwin, take Irwin up to 8th and you're there. If athletic, you can also take BART to Civic Center and ride the bike lane down 8th to Irwin. CCAC is at the corner of 8th & Irwin; evening parking is GOOD by San Francisco standards or lack thereof. There are bars and restaurants in that area for debriefing before or afterwards. Ask Elizabeth at the event. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:00:48 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Elizabeth Treadwell Subject: correction RE directions to SPT Comments: cc: WOM-PO@listserv.muohio.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" DIRECTIONS TO SMALL PRESS TRAFFIC'S NEW LOCALE OOPS, IF YOU ARE COMING FROM THE *EAST* BAY, PLEASE NOTE: from the bridge, take the 9th St/Civic Center offramp, go LEFT from the offramp onto 8th, LEFT on Brannan, RIGHT on 7th, then RIGHT (not left as I miswrote a minute ago!) on Irwin. Take Irwin 2 blocks up to 8th and you are there. HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE! This Friday, Nov. 17 for a reading by Sianne Ngai and Rob Fitterman! ___________________________________________ Double Lucy Books & Outlet Magazine http://users.lanminds.com/dblelucy ___________________________________________ Elizabeth Treadwell http://users.lanminds.com/dblelucy/page2.html ___________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:47:34 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Bowering Subject: Re: survey 7 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > >> Outlet (7) Survey >> >> 1. Who is your favorite obscure(d) female author > > (and why)? > Suzette Mayr, because she is really funny and writes about black >women and lesbians and never gets theoretical or fervent. > > >> 2. Name 3 of your favorite female literary > > characters. > >Annie Torrent Marilyn the Wild Zazie > >> 3. In which historical period would you prefer to be > > writing and living, if any? If we are talking about the past that would be "have lived," and who wants that? -- George Bowering Fax 604-266-9000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:52:52 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Bowering Subject: Re: Poetic Recipes In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > My girlfriend Emily might want to argue with that . . . > >-----Original Message----- >From: George Bowering >To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU >Sent: 11/09/2000 7:26 PM >Subject: Re: Poetic Recipes > > > I'm a published poet > >Isnt that a redundancy? Yeah, I should renege on that notion. I mean, I'm an unpublished research physician, myself. -- George Bowering Fax 604-266-9000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:29:47 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tisa Bryant Subject: Re: survey 7 Comments: To: Caroline In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Outlet (7) Survey >> 1. Who is your favorite obscure(d) female author >> (and why)? Clarice Lispector. Her I/eye amazes, her writing the feminine into Joyce's Portrait of an Artist, the humor and drama of her fragmented Cronicas, the cinema of her Family Portrait. I love her in hopes of better translations or of Portuguese-by-Osmosis (PBO), to love her better, more closely. >> 2. Name 3 of your favorite female literary >> characters. Ursa Corregidora (Corregidora) Gail (Heroine, My Paris) Karintha (Cane) Pilate (Song of Solomon) 2a. Name your 3 favorite female literary friendships. Sula & Nell (Sula) Tituba & Hester Prynne (I, Tituba, Black Witch of Salem) Shug & Celie (The Color Purple) all the Judy Blume girls (I added this to learn more about such friendships, since I think they get short shrift. Anyone else care to share?) >> 3. In which historical period would you prefer to be >> writing and living, if any? I want to live now, write into the future. > From: Caroline > Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group > Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:27:47 +1000 > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: survey 7 > >> >> Outlet (7) Survey >> >> 1. Who is your favorite obscure(d) female author >> (and why)? > Violette Le Duc, for her perverse egoism. >> >> 2. Name 3 of your favorite female literary >> characters. > > Eliza Peabody > Therese > Hedwig Volkbein > >> 3. In which historical period would you prefer to be >> writing and living, if any? > I would like to write in the 1950's, and live now. >> >> Thanks! > > > Carolyn van Langenberg > 14 Bridges Street > Blackheath NSW 2785 > AUSTRALIA > > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:59:38 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Jeffrey G. Fitzwater" Subject: Do you know who wrote this ??? Comments: To: UB Poetics discussion group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to find out who wrote this poem. My father sent it to my mother during WWII. Thank you for any help. ________ It seems to me that God above created you for me to love, he picked you out of all the rest because he knew I loved you best. I once had a heart so brave and true, but now it's gone from me to you. take care of it as I would have done for you have two and I have none. If I get to Heaven , and you're not there, I'll paint your name on a golden stair, so all the world will know and see, just how much you mean to me. _________ Jeff ,F ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:58:43 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: ShaunAnne Tangney Humanities Subject: Re: Poem Comments: To: Charles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i don't know how old yr daughter is, but one of my all-time favorite spring poems is the one by edna st. vincent millay that begins, "To what purpose, April, do you return again?" and ends, "not only underground are the brains of men eaten by maggots"--no, that's not the last line, but it's in there. anyway, is the poem titled "Spring"? i think it might be... --ShaunAnne On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Charles wrote: > I need a poem about Spring season for my daughter to partcipate in a > contest. > > Can you able to help. > > Thanks. > > Regards, > > Charles Louis, > IT Manager, > Silicon Capital Limited > 8 Duncannon Street > London WC2N 4JF > United Kingdom > > Direct line +44 207 484 5408 > Fax +44 20 7681 2330 > Switchboard +44 20 7484 5401 > email:charles@siliconcapital.com > > > The content of this email is confidential to the intended recipient(s) and > may be legally privileged. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone > other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in > error, please contact Silicon Capital Ltd. quoting the name of the sender > and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any > printout thereof. Please note that neither Silicon Capital Ltd. nor the > author accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is the recipient's > responsibility to scan attachments (if any). No contracts may be concluded > on behalf of Silicon Capital Ltd. or the author by means of email > communications unless they are digitally signed. This email has been > prepared using information believed by the author to be reliable and > accurate, but Silicon Capital Ltd. does not accept any liability as to the > accuracy or completeness of the contents of this email. In particular, > Silicon Capital Ltd. does not accept responsibility for changes made to this > email after it was sent. Any opinions expressed in this document are those > of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Silicon Capital > Ltd. This message is provided for information purposes only and should not > be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or > related financial instruments. > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:06:46 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Baptiste Chirot Subject: e/scargot address for jonathan brannen? In-Reply-To: <028c01c04cf8$93751c60$9dfe6520@herbert> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII might someone please back channel e and/or snail mail address(es) for jonathan brannen? would be deeply apprciated --dave baptiste chirot ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:18:19 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: LIMNATURE [transmission #1] In-Reply-To: <006e01c0233a$84b05d80$0a1686d4@head> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable L I M N A T U R E [transmission #1] a dialogue tweenst Maria Damon & Miekal And __________________________________________________________________________ ---............---...=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D..... ----..........----...=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D... -----........-----...=3D=3D=3D...=3D=3D=3D.. ------......------...=3D=3D=3D....=3D=3D=3D. ---.---....---.---...=3D=3D=3D.....=3D=3D=3D ---..---..---..---...=3D=3D=3D....=3D=3D=3D. ---...------...---...=3D=3D=3D...=3D=3D=3D.. ---....----....---...=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D... ---.....--.....---...=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D..... translations of the horned moon in limnary scripts and liminal screens: the limnature twined around the golden branch, the laurel sighing her blood-buds into bloom enscrypted in cribbed and crabbled writ-wrinkles. no end to dys-scryption in the tangled metallix of fluid writing, a mass of charged glowing wire. penned and panting, a limnature of richesse, embarrassment of enceinture, overflooded by deliverance. The horned moon whispers solace to the pent laurel --limning light on fluid light, silver on hematite metamorph being light and dark at once, in the forests of the night, which sounds like day. Inspiraled day twisting around a sustenance bough, redundancy of images discovering their sentences --plunging upward toward any source of light, all makes a brave flaming by any means necessary. ---............---.........=3D=3D=3D...... ----..........----........=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D..... -----........-----.......=3D=3D=3D.=3D=3D=3D.... ------......------......=3D=3D=3D...=3D=3D=3D... ---.---....---.---.....=3D=3D=3D.....=3D=3D=3D.. ---..---..---..---....=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D. ---...------...---...=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ---....----....---...=3D=3D=3D.........=3D=3D=3D ---.....--.....---...=3D=3D=3D.........=3D=3D=3D Scrawlcreatures Inside Unwiredinary Keem Kum, solid swath of everality, determined in fits of passion & the inverse, thoughts are amplijected worldforth. Your nation scrawled in lyric clips, node to node distorted by humming & non-participation. Looth upward, I claim negligencia for the morning after, laying in the there, hotsome & saying more-than-one-thing-at-once-always. Looth Keem, above the glider, you can hear words in that, under my breath. It's minute sanctity gathered turnstiles of dysruption. I am ever the Decryptor of hissance, & anything else flowery with a lingering sense. By bading a troubled typolect, the distance between words is diminished, she covers me like that. Parataxis Khazana is now more resolute, ample openings have impinged. __________________________________________________________________________ =AEpleasureTEXTpossession 2000 #1 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 15:17:31 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: AERIALEDGE@AOL.COM Subject: New @ Bridge Street, 2 Ashberys, Coolidge, Collum/Hejinian, Foucault, Farrell, &&& MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks poetics, for your support. Ordering and discount information. (Note to new subscribers: Bridge Street is an independent bookstore in Washington, DC which periodically posts lists of revelant new publications to the poetics list at discounted prices.) 1. _American Letters & Commentary #12_, ed Anna Rabinowitz, $6. Amy Wright, Norma Cole, Marjorie Welish, Stephen Ratcliffe, David Kozubei, Mei-Mei Berssenbrugge, Sarah Mangusso, Sally Keith, Reginald Shepherd, Tom Thompson, Celia Wren, Cole Swensen, Max Winter, Rosmarie Waldrop, &&&. 2. __your name here_, John Ashbery, FSG, $23. "Why do I tell you these things? / You are not even here." 3. _Other Traditions_, John Ashbery, Harvard, $22.95. Ashbery's Norton lectures on the 'minor' poets John Clare, Thomas Lovell Beddoes, Raymond Roussel, John Wheelwright, Laura Riding, and David Schubert. 4. _Antigone's Claim: Kinship Between Life and Death_, Judith Butler, $19.95. 5. _Benched_, Cydney Chadwick, Avec Pivotal Prose. $7.50. 6. _Rogue States: The Rule of Force in World Affairs_, Noam Chomsky, South End, $16.95. 7. _Crosscut Universe: Writing on Writing from France_, ed Norma Cole, Burning Deck, $15. 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Bridge Street Books, 2814 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Washington, DC 20007. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 21:03:30 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Silliman Subject: China bans poets conference Comments: cc: Discussion of Women's Poetry List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit China bans poets conference November 14, 2000 Web posted at: 10:55 AM EST (1555 GMT) BEIJING, China (AP) -- Authorities in south China banned an officially sponsored gathering of poets and arrested three organizers after discovering that dissident writers were among those invited, a human rights group said Tuesday. Government officials feared the forum would demand an easing of heavy-handed Communist Party controls over literature, the Information Center for Human Rights and Democracy said. The Hong Kong-based group said about 200 poets had been expected at the conference originally planned for November 6-11 at a hotel in Beihai city in Guangxi province. Discussion had been expected to focus on developments in modern Chinese poetry and the formation of a "poet's village" in Beihai, the group said. The gathering was co-sponsored by the Beihai branch of the Communist Youth League, the ruling Communist Party's youth wing, and a Beihai poetry review, the center said. But authorities banned the meeting and ordered organizers to stop planning for it after seeing that dissident writers and publishers were on the list of participants, the group said. On November 4, police also arrested Beihai poets Wei Manzeng and Jiang Nan, and Wang Changhuai from nearby Hunan province, for planning the "illegal gathering," the Information Center said. They are being held in Beihai's jail, it added. Dissident writers invited to the meeting included a poet arrested during a crackdown on pro-democracy demonstrations in 1989, sponsors of underground poetry reviews and a writer who posted poems on the Internet expressing dissatisfaction with modern Chinese society, the center said. A woman at the Beihai Youth League office who gave her surname as Wang confirmed the conference had been canceled, but said she did not know why. A police official in Beihai, who gave her surname, Xie, said she had no knowledge of the three arrests. The Chinese media is entirely government-controlled and censors keep a careful eye out for books deemed politically adventurous or risque. This year, the government temporarily closed at least 13 publishers and shut down another. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 21:09:28 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Baptiste Chirot Subject: netstrike:contra la pena de muerte (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 09:06:16 +0100 From: boek861 To: aitgna Subject: netstrike:contra la pena de muerte A// ESPA=D1OL B//INGLES El 30 de noviembre 2000, desde las 18:00 a las 19:00 Estado del Texas http://www.state.tx.us/ Desde las 18:00 a las 19:00 horas Del dia 30 de noviembre del 2000 Se llevar=E0 a efecto la obstaculizaci=F2n y bloqueo pac=ECfico en se=F1al = de protesta a dicho sitio, de la misma manera cuando miles de personas participen en la huelga para parar el tr=E0fico de las calles 1786=FD2000 NETSTRIKE 214.T CONTRA LA PENA DE MUERTE El 30 de noviembre 2000, desde las 18:00 a las 19:00 horas, tender=E0 lugar una manifestaci=F2n CONTRA LA PENA DE MUERTE, patrocinada por la Regi=F2n Toscana (Florencia, Fortezza da Basso). Con motivo de celebrar el aniversario de la renuncia a la pena de muerte de parte del Granducado de Toscana en 1.786 (primeros en el mundo). En una serie de instalaciones artisticas, los artistas Tommaso Tozzi y Giacomo Verde, con la colaboraci=F2n de muchisimos grupos y asociaciones nacionales e internacionales, invitan a ud. (s) a participar a un desfile virtual de protesta contra los sitios del Texas Department of Criminal Justice y del Estado de Texas, proponiendo seguir el netstrike contra los sitios de todos los otros paises donde a=F9n rige la ley de la pena de muerte (ver mas adelante LA LISTA DE LOS PAISES DONDE AUN RIGE LA LEY DE PENA DE MUERTE) "Me parece absurdo que las leyes, que expresan la volumtad p=F9blica, que detestan y castigan el homicidio, que cometen ellos mismos, para alejar a los ciudadanos del asesinato ordenan un asesino p=F9blico". Con estas palabras Cesare Beccaria en 1764 denunciaba la b=E0rbara e in=F9til pena de muerte: algunos a=F1os despu=E8s, en 1786, el Granducado de Toscana abol=ECa la pena de muerte en su estado.. Docientos a=F1os mas tarde, 11.000 hombres y mujeres est=E0n en espera de ser ejecutados en uno de los 118 paises que a=F9n mantienen la pena capital. Solo en 1998 han sido seguidos almenos 1625 homicidios de Estado y casi 4.000 personas han sido condenadas a muerte. Ya es hora de decir basta a una pena ineficaz y que pone al mismo nivel del criminal la sociedad y el Estado, transformandose en asesinos. Ya es hora que la sociedad civil mundial haga sentir su voz. Es hora que t=F9 tambi=E8n hagas algo: basta un click desde tu casa-junto = a otros cientos en todo el mundo - para obstaculizar o hacerlo colapsar el sitio. La finalidad de la manifestacion es presionar a las Instituciones de los paises en los cuales a=F9n rige la pena de muerte, con el fin de que suspendan inmediatamente todas las ejecuciones ya previstas y adopten medidas para abolir definitivamente la pena de muerte, por su propia disposici=F2n. El netstrike y sus motivaciones han sido comunicadas ya sea a los representantes de los sitios del Texas Department of Criminal Justice y del Estado de Texas como tambi=E8n a los principales medios de comunicaci=F2n y organizaciones internacionales en grado de difundir antes y despu=E8s la noticia. Vuestra comunicaci=F2n permanente (simultaneamente con otros miles de personas de todo el mundo) puedes hacerlo a las siguientes direcciones: Departimiento de Justicia Criminal del Texas http://tdcj.state.tx.us/ o tambi=E8n Estado del Texas http://www.state.tx.us/ Desde las 18:00 a las 19:00 horas Del dia 30 de noviembre del 2000 Se llevar=E0 a efecto la obstaculizaci=F2n y bloqueo pac=ECfico en se=F1al = de protesta a dicho sitio, de la misma manera cuando miles de personas participen en la huelga para parar el tr=E0fico de las calles (leer mas adelante las RECOMENDACIONES PARA UN BUEN FUNCIONAMIENTO DEL NETSTRIKE). Para quien quiera seguir las faces de la movilizaci=F2n y comentarlas en internet en tiempo real puede contactarse con los otros participantes para encontrarse durante la hora del cortejo electr=F2nico en una chat o canal irc (un reencuentro hist=F2rico de los nestrikers es por ejemplo el canal #Hackit99 en el server www.ecn.org). Para m=E0s informaci=F2n referentes al netstrike conectarse a los siguientes sitios: http://www.netstrike.it/214t/ --------------------------------------------------------- SUGERENCIAS PARA UN BUEN FUNCIONAMIENTO DEL NETSTRIKE --------------------------------------------------------- Para una participaci=F2n mas eficiente al netstrike se aconseja seguir las siguientes indicaciones t=E8cnicas: - No sectar proxy para su conecci=F2n - Sectar a 0 la cache de su browser - Contin=F9a oprimiendo la tecla Reload continuamente ------------------------------------------------------ LISTA DE LOS PAISES DONDE AUN RIGE LA PENA DE MUERTE ------------------------------------------------------ Afghanistan, Algeria, Antigua e Barbuda, Arabia Saudita Armenia, Bahamas, Bahrein, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belize, Benin, Bielorussia, Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Camerun Ciad, Cile, Comore, Corea del Nord, Corea del Sur, Cuba, Dominica, Egipto, Emirados Arabos Unidos, Eritrea, Etiopia , Filippine, Gabon, Ghana, Giamaica, Giappone, Giordania, Guatemala, Guinea, Guinea Equatoriale, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lesotho, Libano, Liberia, Libia, Malawi, Malaysia, Marocco, Mauritania, Mongolia, Myanmar, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Rep. Dem. Congo, Rep. Pop. De China, Ruanda, Russia, Saint Christopher and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent e le Grenadine, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Siria, Somalia, Stati Uniti, Sudan, Swatziland, Tadzhikistan, Tailandia, Taiwan, Tanzania, Territori dell'autorit=E0 Palestinese, Trinidad y Tobago, Tunisia, Ucraina, Uganda, Uzbekistan, Vietnam, Yemen, Yugoslavia, Zambia, Zimbabwe. Tommaso Tozzi (http://www.strano.net/tozzi.htm) Giacomo Verde (http://www.verdegiac.org/). (Traduccion del italiano por Vilma Valencia Renzoni) Tommaso Tozzi Via XXIV Maggio 14 50129 Firenze Italy Phone/Fax: +39-55-485996 e-mail: t.tozzi@ecn.org WEB Home page: http://strano.net/tozzi.htm ************************************************ * AdsoNet - Servicios Profesionales de Internet * Manuel Peiro Mir - Web Master * http://www.adso.net * E-mail adso@adso.net * Tel. 977.627.705 * Fax. 977.626.924 * HotLine. 656.412.428 ************************************************ B// 1786--->2000 NETSTRIKE 214.T - AGAINST THE DEATH PENALTY Texas Department of Criminal Justice http://tdcj.state.tx.us/ or State of Texas http://www.state.tx.us/ from 18:00 to 19:00 hrs. Tommaso Tozzi and Giacomo Verde, with the co-operation of many groups and national and international associations, would like to invite you all to participate to a VIRTUAL RALLY AGAINST THE DEATH PENALTY to protest against the sites of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice and of the State of Texas, which will be held within an art event on November 30th 2000, from 18:00 to 19:00 hrs. The virtual rally will happen on occasion of a real one sponsored by the Tuscany Region (Florence, Fortezza da Basso) to celebrate the anniversary of the renunciation to the death penalty by the Grand Duchy of Tuscany in 1786 (the first country in the world). The artists also suggest repeating the netstrike against the sites of all those countries where the death penalty is still provided for by the law (see the enclosed LIST OF COUNTRIES WHERE THE DEATH PENALTY IS STILL PROVIDED FOR BY THE LAW). =ABIt seems to me absurd that the law, which is the expression of public will, and despises and punishes homicide, commit one themselves, and, to discourage citizens from committing assassinations, order public assassination=BB. Cesare Beccaria used these words in 1764 to denounce the barbaric and useless character of the death penalty: a few years later, in 1786, the Grand Duke of Tuscany abolished the death penalty in his state. More than two hundred years later, 11,000 men and women are awaiting execution in one of the 118 Countries which still have the death penalty. Only in 1998 at least 1625 State homicides were committed and nearly 4000 people were condemned to death. It is time to say stop to an ineffective punishment which transforms society and the State into assassins, putting them on the same plane as the criminal. It is time for the world's civil society to make its voice heard. It is time for you to do your bit too: just click from home - together with hundred of other people in the whole world - to jam the site and break it down. The purpose of the rally is to pressurise the Public bodies of those countries which still provide for the death penalty, so they immediately put off pending executions and adopt provisions to definitively abolish the death penalty from their legal systems. The netstrike and its motivations have been communicated both to the representatives of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice, the State of Texas sites and the main international media and organisations able of spreading the news both pre-emptively and successively. So connecting repeatedly (at the same time as thousands of other people in the whole world) to these websites: Texas Department of Criminal Justice http://tdcj.state.tx.us/ or State of Texas http://www.state.tx.us/ from 18:00 to 19:00 hrs. --------------------------------- http://www.fut.es/~boek861 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 22:09:31 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Organization: e.g. Subject: [Fwd: Barbara Guest, Andrew Joron & Catherine Daly @ The Lab, Sat 4 pm] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT sorry for cross-posting; I'm understandably excited about this reading > The Germ and the Tight Fanny Club present: > > Barbara Guest, Andrew Joron and Catherine Daly @ The Laboratory! Saturday, > November 18th at 4 pm. > > Ha! For so long you've stood me up cold, LA cool-kid, what with your bully > Bergamont and your text-messaging cel all a-bark at the Starlite Lanes! But > what will you do now that Babs Guest is in town? The Queen Mab of the ether > set! The gal who demands four more meanings of "fancy-free" from the OED! > James & Bobby Purified may sing "I'm Your Puppet" on your AM 680, but not me > > this weekend...you're comin' to the Lab, pal. This is the good end of the > lushlife. Those not in attendance need spiritual wart-relief. > > Joining Barbara: Berkeley's arch word-wizard Andrew Joron and his portable > spaceways orchestra, and LA's Catherine Daly with her pop-up postcard > collection and glass harmonica garden with pitched orchid extensions. > Unforgettable! > > ********************** > > Barbara Guest is the author of eighteen books of poetry, fiction and prose, > including _Fair Realism_, _Defensive Rapture_, _The Confetti Trees_ and _If > So, Then Tell Me_. She is a national treasure, inimitable, and was recently > awarded the Frost Medal for Lifetime Achievement by the Poetry Society of > America. This rare visit to her home town of Los Angeles is not to be > missed. > > Andrew Joron is the author of _Science Fiction_ (Pantograph Press, 1992) and > > _The Removes_ (Hard Press, 1999). He is also the translator of German > philosopher Ernst Bloch's Literary Essays (Stanford University Press, 1998). > > He lives in Berkeley, California. > > Catherine Daly has appeared in over forty magazines in the past decade and > is teaching UCLA’s first online poetry course. Her web presence is peerless > and you can find her at http://members.aol.com/cadaly > > *********************** > > Readings are open to all. $5 donation requested (for legenadary > poets/venue). > > The Lab is located at 835 S. Spring St in downtown Los Angeles. From the > 101, take the 110 Harbor exit to the 6th st exit into downtown. Turn right > on Spring and the Lab is on the right between 8th and 9th, under the > "Dancing Girls" sign. From the 10 freeway, take the 110 Pasadena exit and > follow above instructions. > > Call Andrew at 213.627.5069 for additional information. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 02:15:32 -0500 Reply-To: perez@magnet.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jamie Perez Subject: sonnets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit who is reprinting the Ted Berrigan Sonnets book mentioned below thanks jamie.p The Poetry Project wrote: > > This week and next week at the Poetry Project: > > TONIGHT, Wednesday, November 8th at 8 pm > GRACE PALEY AND BRENDA COULTAS > One of America's best-loved writers, Grace Paley was the first-ever official > New York State Writer, named by Mario Cuomo in 1989. She is the author of > three collections of short fiction and three collections of poetry. Ms. > Paley has also been active for various social causes, from protests against > the Vietnam War to demonstrations against the production of nuclear weapons. > At the Poetry Project, Ms. Paley will read from Begin Again (Farrar, Straus > & Giroux), a collection of new and previously published poems, which are > described by poet Adrienne Rich as "exuberant, heartbreaking, committed." > Brenda Coultas, a former student of Anne Waldman and Allen Ginsberg, is the > author of Boy Eye (Art Institute of Maryland, 2000), A Summer Newsreel > (Second Story Press, 1999), and Early Films (Rodent Press, 1996). Her work > has appeared in American Poetry Review, Fence, Epoch, The Hat, and other > journals. Originally from Southern Indiana, she has lived in New York City > since 1995. > > Friday, November 10th at 10:30 pm > THE HOUSE OF PERNOD > In the collage tradition of the '90's, The House of Pernod is a hybrid of > funk, chaos, poetry, theater, and rock & roll. The band delivers "a unique > and intoxicating energy," says Larry McDonald of Gil Scott Heron's Amnesia > Express. Joining them tonight is Detroit poet M.L. Liebler, D. Nurkse, Sean > Thomas Dougherty, the editor of the Red Brick Review, and Noel Jones. > > Monday, November 13th at 8 pm > ELIZABETH YOUNG AND LAUREN GUDATH > Talented, up-and-coming poet Elizabeth Young is the Assistant Editor for The > Poetry Project Newsletter and co-host for the Belladonna reading series. > Moving with grace from prose to verse, her work is an exploration of a new > landscape, one not confined to previous notions of surrealism and realism. > Her poems have appeared in Tool a Magazine, Skanky Possum, and on the Poetry > Project¹s web site. Lauren Gudath works for a dot-com company in San > Francisco. Full of humor and fantasy, her poetry resides in the world of pop > culture, present and future. Ms. Gudath is currently working on a series of > poems about places in California she has never visited. Her most recent > chapbook, The Television Documentary, was published in 1999 by Second Story > Press. This Kind of Interpretation Brings Luck, a collaboration with visual > artist David Larsen, is forthcoming from Lucinda Press. > > Wednesday, November 15th at 8 pm > THE SONNETS READING > Poet, rock musician, and The Basketball Diaries author Jim Carroll will be > among the poets celebrating the republication of the late Ted Berrigan's > essential early work, The Sonnets, which will be read in its entirety. Also > among the readers will be John Ashbery, America¹s foremost contemporary > poet; Ed Sanders, poet, founding member of the musical group The Fugs, and > author of The Family, the best-selling account of the Manson family murders; > poet Alice Notley, who was married to Berrigan at the time of his death and > who wrote the introduction to the new edition; and poet Ron Padgett, a > friend with whom Berrigan wrote many collaborative works. > "The Sonnets are an enduring benchmark in mid-20th century American > poetics," says poet Robert Creeley. Originally published in 1964, The > Sonnets is considered by many to be Ted Berrigan¹s most important and > influential book. Reflecting the new American sensibilities of the 1960s as > well as timeless poetic themes, The Sonnets are both eclectic and classical. > Ted Berrigan was born in Providence, Rhode Island in 1934 to working-class > parents. He established his reputation in the 1960s as a poet, art critic, > teacher, and publisher. He published more than 20 books during his lifetime. > He died on July 4, 1983. > > Friday, November 17th at 10:30 pm > WORD OF MOUTH: AN ANTHOLOGY OF GAY AMERICAN POETRY > Contributors Edward Field, Wayne Koestenbaum, Jaime Manrique, Taylor Mead, > David Trinidad, Mark Wunderlich, and editor Timothy Liu will read from this > ground-breaking anthology, which offers a sweeping introduction to Gay > American poetry of the past half-century. "Of course there are poems who > overtly flaunt their sexuality ... but there are so many quieter poems (and > poets) who might elude the most finely tuned gaydar." ­from the preface by > Timothy Liu. > > * * * ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:37:40 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Prageeta Sharma Subject: Marc Lester Yu & Jeannie Weissglass November 16, 2000 6-8pm @ECFA Comments: To: aberrigan@excite.com, adam@intelligenesis.net, agil@erols.com, AliEThom@aol.com, Amesjon@aol.com, amisugahara@yahoo.com, amlinko@sailfish.com, andrewsbruce@netscape.ent, angus_forbes@hotmail.com, Anna.Swelund@ericsson.com, aquart@ibm.net, aran@cometsystems.com, Atticus40@aol.com, bdown68@hotmail.com, bluesequin@earthlink.net, brilerch@earthlink.net, canwehaveourballback@go.com, Cborkhuis@aol.com, chere@on2.com, chitraganesh@hotmail.com, Dale_Sherrard@wasserella.com, david_trinidad@hotmail.com, desk@aaww.org, dkane@panix.com, DROTHSCHILD@penguinputnam.com, eberrigan@hotmail.com, fethiere@usc.edu, florencechaix@hotmail.com, Gill8land@aol.com, gps12@columbia.edu, g_fuchs@hotmail.com, hither@morningred.com, hscottpeterson@hotmail.com, hsorger@earthlink.net, jallen109@hotmail.com, jameswilk@hotmail.com, jarnot@pipeline.com, jdavis@panix.com, jeffconant@hotmail.com, JhighSasha@aol.com, john@nylondesigns.com, JYau974406@aol.com, jzuzga@randomhouse.com, katy@bway.net, Kawhop@aol.com, KBunch@cmp.com, laura.willis@prontomail.com, levitsk@attglobal.net, lfrancia@mail.slc.edu, linhdinh99@yahoo.com, Lowsarr@aol.com, ludwigleone@mediaone.net, lungfull@interport.net, Maguey2@aol.com, MaryJoBang@aol.com, MatMcGowan@aol.com, mcsweeneys@earthlink.net, mgoodma@earthlink.net, mirakove@earthlink.net, miribarne@mindspring.com, mitch.highfill@db.com, Mixnelson@aol.com, mscharf@cahners.com, msharma@idea.cambridge.edu, poproj@artomatic.com, prev@erols.com, r2man@mindspring.com, revans@paulweiss.com, rockers@medisg.stanford.edu, rwolff@angel.net, Sander@softskull.com, schulsie@hotmail.com, shark@erols.com, Sikelianos@aol.com, sogwhite@earthlink.net, SPerry7373@aol.com, subpoetics-l@hawaii.edu, theirondoor@hotmail.com, timg@timeoutny.com, tomdev1@earthlink.net, tse@po.cwru.edu, wordsmiths@worldnet.att.net, WRITING@listserv.brown.edu, yardbirdz@yahoo.com, zurawski@astro.temple.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable JEANNIE WEISSGLASS: PAINTINGS MARC LESTER YU=92S PAT THE BUNNY @ Ethan Cohen Fine Arts 37 Walker Street (between Church&Broadway) Ethan Cohen Fine Arts welcomes you to Jeannie Weissglass=92 Paintings and Marc Lester Yu=92s Pat The Bunny both opening November 16, 2000 from 6-8 PM. In this pairing, we see the work of two New York artists. Weissglass, a provocative colorist creates lavish and dense landscapes of the figure, animal and sea. Marc Lester Yu=92s installations absolve color for a neutrality and careful uniformity of minimalist sculpture in vinyl and mixed media. Both embark on different treatments but share common themes of the figure as animal.=20 Weissglass=92 work is fluid, attending to a formal landscape skewed by the gesture of the brush. Her lush colors layer the canvas The range and the integrity of her formal visual discernment through her medium of oil on canvas is astounding. While the subject becomes both distant and elevated, i= t maintains a crepuscular yet vibrant resolution. Yu=92s work "confront[s] thr= ee life-changing realms of violence, sexuality, and aesthetics." Yu=92s work i= s adventurous, pushing the line towards other materials which draws the viewer into the spectacle which is also the space of installation.=20 Both Weissglass and Yu create storyboards. Whether it is a story inhabiting a childhood-to-adolescence inquiry or an evocative figure flung into the natural world, both delve into a dramatic closing of the impending and looming subjectivity of form. Whereas Weissglass=92 animals, birds and crocodiles blend within its surroundings to jar a blissful composition, Yu= =92s animals are witty (along with the titles). We see two dramatic statements careful in exposing or enhancing a literal narration.=20 Marc Lester Yu=92s work is currently on display at PS1 Jeannie Weissglass ha= s previously exhibited at Art in General, Artists Space and CityArt Projects o= f New York.=20 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:40:58 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Brenda Coultas Subject: Jenny Olin & Larry Rivers at Spa, Nov 17th, NYC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Can you post this? Thank you. Jenny Olin & Larry Rivers & musicians in an evening cabaret This Friday, Nov 17th, 7-9 pm at SPA 76 E. 13th St. Between Broadway & 4th Ave. NYC ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:15:36 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: editor@ADVENTURESINPOETRY.COM Subject: New books from Adventures in Poetry Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Announcing the return of Adventures in Poetry... http://www.adventuresinpoetry.com Winter 2000 books: John Ashbery, 100 Multiple-Choice Questions Charles North, The Nearness of The Way You Look Tonight Spring 2001 books by Clark Coolidge, Jacqueline Waters and David Perry. ADVENTURES IN POETRY began publishing in 1968 as a mimeographed "little magazine" and continued through 1976 with pamphlets, featuring work by John Ashbery, Ted Berrigan, William Burroughs, Allen Ginsberg, Bernadette Mayer, Frank O'Hara, James Schuyler, Anne Waldman and numerous others. After a long hiatus, we begin again with a series of books by both established and new innovative writers. ADVENTURES IN POETRY books are edited by Larry Fagin and Christopher Mattison. Check out the Web site for further book and subscription info. Or contact Christopher Mattison at AIP 50 Kenwood Street Brookline, MA 02446 Phone: 617.734.0661 Fax: 617.734.0661 editor@adventuresinpoetry.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:12:26 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: greg Subject: Don Riggs and Wendy Kramer at Highwire @ La Tazza Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" HIGHWIRE READINGS NOW AT LA TAZZA 108 Chestnut Street Philadelphia, PA in Old City between 2nd and Front Streets (215) 922-7322 Every other Saturday @ 7:00 PM "Nothing gets me higher than a Highwire Reading!"-Buck Downs "That READING last night was ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!"-C.A. Conrad November 18 Don Riggs and Wendy Kramer Don Riggs is the man behind many Philadelphia contemporary writers. Wendy Kramer reads from sculptures she makes out of found materials. December 2 Fran Ryan and Prageeta Sharma Fran Ryan is writing a book literally about the politics of labor and figuratively about Philadelphia trash workers. Prageeta Sharma's Bliss To Fill (Subpress, 2000) is one of the hottest selling books on the Subpress list. Don't miss her. December 16 Janet Mason and Anselm Berrigan Janet Mason will make you crack up laughing and send you home thinking. Anselm Berrigan is our holiday gift for you, our faithful followers. Reading Report Last reading was a terrific blow-out. We celebrated the release of Ixnay 5 and Kevin Varrone's g-point almanac. While I was introducing the evening's players and urging people to vote on Tuesday November 7, 00 a teamster walked in holding over his head a Gore/Lieberman poster. I told him I was voting for Nader but that he was welcome to hang out, hear the poetry, and organize the potential voters. Jenn and Chris were wonderful co-hosts. I hope they sold lots of magazines. And o, I never got my copy. Kevin gave a beautiful reading of g-point almanac. He's such a quiet guy it was amazing to hear him say so many words in one night. Jena raised the bar for Highwire-in-a-bar by reading some heady new work. And Frank Sherlock went "Ghost Dog", he was Zen-rapper. The night was wrapped up by surprise-guest Kim Soli. Her dominatrix-like attire and Betty Boop demeanor threw the avant garde for a loop. Myself included. And a big shout out to Aaron Levy and Alec for getting me home safely. See you next time. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 05:21:41 +1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Caroline Subject: expanding survey 7 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >> >> 1. Who is your favorite obscure(d) female author >> (and why)? > Violette Le Duc, for her perverse egoism. >> >> 2. Name 3 of your favorite female literary >> characters. > > Eliza Peabody (The Queen of the Tambourine by Jane Gardam. Brittle and resilient, Eliza is a teeth grittingly successful character.) > Therese (Therese et Isabelle by Violette Ke Duc. When I was a young assistant at a municipal library, a borrower slapped this novel on the desk and advised me I must not read such wickedness. I took it home and read it, and Therese has lived with me ever since. She is a sombre shadow beside me. > Hedwig Volkbein (Nightwood by Djuna Barnes, a writer with a fine line in dreadfully foxy women.) > >> 3. In which historical period would you prefer to be >> writing and living, if any? > I would like to write in the 1950's, and live now. In the 1950's publishing flourished. This was before the cancer of Rupert's corporatism ruined the publishing houses. I like to live now because I like central heating, dishwashers, fridges and light weight vacuum cleaners. >> >> Thanks! > > > Carolyn van Langenberg > 14 Bridges Street > Blackheath NSW 2785 > AUSTRALIA > > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:20:51 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: claank design Subject: Re: Analysis of Chinese Characters In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I love this. Is it a quote from Wilder and Ingram? Where can I see more? Andrea Baker > From: Alan Sondheim > Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group > Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:35:48 -0500 > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU > > = > > > 9 writing and breathing out and breathing in, O immortal! 14 outside and > foreign and beyond or outside the body and 18 reading and chanting, think- > ing, from the heart and two because a pair or doubling and a balance and > 44 thinking, intention, and 45 thought, the wish of the heart! and the > present skull! 85 see, such an eye and 87 musical theme and essay, or all > the rules standing in the composition and 104 walking on the edge of the > cliff! falling! disappearing! and that uneasy margin where one thing ends > and another other begins and just there where i am you see the origin and > 117 calling the birds and animals in their languages and names and they're > calling you with their names and in their names and 121 anciently breath- > ing in and breathing out until it has passed away and 164 sacrificing and > you will try and remember the receptacle and 133 the meat and flesh of > your face, nikuko! O nikuko and 188 giving you obeisance our hands above > us, O trembling! 191 will continue to breathe and 238 the boat with com- > partments and places to carrying things, floating, and a prow and an oar > and 276 of opposition and division, of negation and its pull and 302 such > empty leisure and what lies above our exhalation from skin and flesh, our > breathing image and symbol, breathing paper and rock and 656 being pun- > ished and knived and 723 O nikuko! calling you and exhaling and giving out > through adversity, and the thin stream of air from within and 796 confined > and held from within and repressed and inhaled and held, turned, stopped, > named, and 42, divided and sealed > > (Analysis of Chinese Characters, Wilder and Ingram.) > > > __ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:17:55 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jim Behrle Subject: Re: Mark Bibbins, Herb Scott, Michael Heller READ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hello, list. I've been asked to leak some news about the secret poetry magazine that is at www.canwehaveourballback.com. Their 3rd issue is now up. Check it out if you like. Their primary e-mail account was canwehaveourballback@go.com. Go.com, owned by Disney, has closed their e-mail account because: "The first name, last name or member name you entered during the registration process contains combinations of letters\numbers that could be interpreted as inappropriate language." Repeated messages to go.com have gotten no response. If you are trying to get in touch with can we have our ball back?, please send e-mail to canwehaveourballback@hotmail.com. can we have our ball back? has lost many files and addresses. They'd love to hear from you, even if it's just a quick hello. Issue 4.0 should appear 12/15, and they'd love submissions. Holiday poems are very welcome. Thanks. Jim _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:47:06 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Nielsen, Aldon" In-Reply-To: <68c9295.36f9d967@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I might have to miss the reading this week -- My wife had surgery earlier this year, and I've needed to stay up in Santa Barbara with her whenever possible -- If I don't make it, know that I'm at home wishing I could be there -- " Subjects hinder talk." -- Emily Dickinson Aldon Lynn Nielsen Fletcher Jones Chair of Literature and Writing Loyola Marymount University 7900 Loyola Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90045-8215 (310) 338-3078 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:24:43 +1100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Hugh Tolhurst Subject: "The Festival" by Dimitris Tsaloumas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm enjoying UQP's recently released New and Selected Poems by Dimitris Tsaloumas. He's a terrific poet and his wit is often very pleasing in its capacity to highlight such things as cultural vanity. A poem I've long liked from his Portrait of a Dog collection, is called "The Festival", to quote it in part, Trouble is our city, rash and precocious, thinking itself of age, shopped round for what was hard to find and out of air and drums wrought heroes, gods and bards who in that sonorous shape now fart nonstop and louder than the imported kind. On days of fast they bang and boom (some by remote control) and drive us round the bend by force of sturm- und-drang. Next week's their fear- ful fest. But let them have their ball: I'll come and share the comfort of your nest. (p.219) It's great to have Dimitris in Melbourne and perfect that this most distinguished of Australian poets, always spends the Melbourne Writers' Festival in Greece. Great book, and good to see University of Queensland Press still publishes good skilled poetry which isn't necessarily fashionable. cheers Hugh Tolhurst ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 21:14:03 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jim Behrle Subject: apologies Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed to Mark Bibbins, Herb Scott, and Michael Heller. My e-mail wasn't really re: them or their reading-- which sounds fantastic. If I had to do it again I would have titled my last e-mail "can we have our ball back? v. Disney" or something as dramatic. --Jim _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:52:58 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dickison Subject: Eugene GLORIA & Catalina CARIAGA, Thursday Nov 16, 4:30 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable POETRY CENTER 2000 The Poetry Center & American Poetry Archives presents Special SFSU alumni reading EUGENE GLORIA & CATALINA CARIAGA Thursday afternoon, November 16, 4:30 pm, free @ The Poetry Center, SFSU EUGENE GLORIA's first book, Drivers at the Short-Time Motel (Penguin, 2000) was selected by Pulitzer Prize-winning poet Yusef Komunyakaa for publication in the National Poetry Series. Komunyakaa writes of Gloria's work that it's "propelled by an imagistic sincerity and paced lyricism. . . =2E Though many of the poems address the lingering hurt of cultural and economic imperialism, worlds coexist in the same skin through magical imagery. These wonderful poems are trustworthy." Mr. Gloria, an alumnus of SFSU, was born in Manila, Philippines, and raised in San Francisco. He teaches at DePauw University in Greencastle, Indiana. CATALINA CARIAGA's first book, Cultural Evidence, from the Subpress Collective, based in Honolulu, was just selected as one of eight books honored by the PEN America Open Book Program 2000. "Cultural Evidence is evidence that waves of the Asian Pacific can arrive upon the sandy shores of American English" -Victor Hernandez Cruz. Ms. Cariaga was born in Los Angeles, studied music as an undergraduate, and is also an SFSU alumnus (MFA in creative writing). She lives in Oakland. Coming up..... An evening with poets JENNIFER MOXLEY & FANNY HOWE Thursday, November 30, 7:30 pm, $5 donation @ the Unitarian Center 1187 Franklin (at Geary) The George Oppen Memorial Lecture in Twentieth Century Poetics SUSAN THACKREY Thursday, December 7, 7:30 pm, $5 donation @ the Unitarian Center 1187 Franklin (at Geary) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D LOCATIONS THE POETRY CENTER is located in Humanities 512 on the SW corner of the San Francisco State University Campus, 1600 Holloway Avenue 2 blocks west of 19th Avenue on Holloway take MUNI's M Line to SFSU or from Daly City BART free shuttle or 28 bus THE UNITARIAN CENTER is located at 1187 Franklin St. at the corner of Geary on-street parking opens up at 7:00 pm from downtown SF take the Geary bus to Franklin =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D Readings that take place at The Poetry Center are free of charge. Except as indicated, a $5 donation is requested for readings off-campus. SFSU students and Poetry Center members get in free. The Poetry Center's programs are supported by funding from Grants for the Arts-Hotel Tax Fund of the City of San Francisco, the California Arts Council, the National Endowment for the Arts, Poets & Writers, Inc., and The Fund for Poetry, as well as by the College of Humanities at San =46rancisco State University, and by donations from our members. Join us! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Steve Dickison, Director The Poetry Center & American Poetry Archives San Francisco State University 1600 Holloway Avenue ~ San Francisco CA 94132 ~ vox 415-338-3401 ~ fax 415-338-0966 http://www.sfsu.edu/~newlit ~ ~ ~ L=E2 taltazim h=E2latan, wal=E2kin durn b=EE-llay=E2ly kam=E2 tad=FBwru Don't cling to one state turn with the Nights, as they turn ~Maq=E2mat al-Hamadh=E2ni (tenth century; tr Stefania Pandolfo) ~ ~ ~ Bring all the art and science of the world, and baffle and humble it with one spear of grass. ~Walt Whitman's notebook ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 00:28:55 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: AERIALEDGE@AOL.COM Subject: Addition to New @ Bridge Street -- The Sonnets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit back in print! *****_The Sonnets_, Ted Berrigan, intro & notes by Alice Notley, Penguin, $16.95. "Stronger than alcohol, more great than song" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 01:23:25 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: tom bell Subject: can poetry mean? really? Comments: To: subsub , British poets , poetics UB Poetics discussion group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable are poets speaking? "We are living from and speaking from the self, person, body, or actor, = all of which I refer to as the (...)." Gendlin, p. 81 just rediscovered a vital trend of thought and living that has been = ignored in the narrow confines of endlessly repeated philosophical and = cultural references in internet circles and apparently in academic = circles in the midst of trying to be in.=20 Gendlin and Schneider are the tip of the iceberg, but there is not much = on the internet - i guess they're busy living. "Speaking from your (...) carries it forward and opens and develops it = further." p. 82 Eugene Gendlin, "Implicit Entry and Focusing," The Humanistic = Psychologist, Spring, 1999, XXVII, No. 1, Special issue on understanding existence. "Failure to create carnival [or the fluid center] means revolution, pure = and simple....I am advocating for a self and culture that can go hand in hand, that are = fluid, but that can respect the integrity of the whole. To do otherwise, is to keep turning = out selves who evolve wonderully in our offices or theoretical treatises (or, on the = other hand, explode) once they are turned back out into the status quo.=20 Kirk Schneidner, "Implicit Entry and Focusing," The Humanistic = Psychologist, Spring, 1999, XXVII, No. 1, Special issue on understanding existence. i think this is a third direction out of the LANGUAGE ANTI quarry but I = could be wrong. tom bell --- Jokes are at:=20 http://members.tripod.com/~trbell/laugh/ibs.htm Life designs: http://trbell.tripod.com/lifedesigns/ Art, poetry, webpoetry done by people with chronic physical=20 or mental problems (work that helped) at=20 http://members.tripod.com/~trbell/metaphor/metapho.htm _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_/??????????///-_ SOULSOLESOLO=20 <<<]]][[[[[[[[[[[[]]]]]]]]]]}}}}+++++++ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 03:10:22 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Re: Analysis of Chinese Characters In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It's not a quote - it's a writing and rewriting and reworking of the material combined with my very very limited knowledge of kanji. The book is published by Dover (or at least was) - Alan Internet Text at http://www.anu.edu.au/english/internet_txt Partial at http://lists.village.virginia.edu/~spoons/internet_txt.html Trace Projects at http://trace.ntu.ac.uk/writers/sondheim/index.htm CDROM of collected work 1994-2000/1 available: write sondheim@panix.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:11:51 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Baptiste Chirot Subject: Re: China bans poets conference In-Reply-To: <001f01c04ea8$495121e0$3353fea9@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thank you for the news Ron Silliman-- though actually --doesn't one wonder sometimes what disappointment in their senses of their own dangers, powers, places in the poltical structures of life many poets might not feel if they didn't know some poets, some where, were being arrested for something? since some one recently had raised for the ooooooooth time on this list that hoary spectre of that moonstrous shiboleth & monumentnal nostrum-- is a poet a poet only when published? (diagnsed by curious antiquarian physicians as dementia of the ego/identity function characterized by an obseesion with seeing one's name in print in some form presented by knowledgable authorities as a publication which also bears their justifying names, certifying that one is ideed a poet and one indeed has produced a published piece of poesy,complete with a page number, one's name and a title--moe or less poetic--) shd one begin extending the criteria to say --is a poet only a poet if imprisoned at some point in their career--not only within the rules and lines and pages of a text--but also behind the bars and regulations and discourses of the Correctional System (overseen by such beings as editors/wardens, white out/armed guards and so on--) (or the elite delete key--) (which "leaves not a trace" . . . ) perhaps in some obscure way this is why Borges, going blind in an Argentinian library creates Pierre Menard, who sets out to rewrite DON QUIXOTE--and in doing so word for word--makes a better version, a copy which surpases the original--of Cervanntes' work, which was written in large part in prison . . . by the way-- has anybody heard from Francois Villon lately? last time he was here, he said he'd be back before winter . . . dbchirot ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:20:16 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Baptiste Chirot Subject: Karenina.it Top News: orlan mori piegza wro costa vitale videofestival (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thought this may be of great interest to many on this list-- btw--Wroclaw is amazing place--Grotowski theatre there for long time --dbchirot Karenina.it Top News: orlan mori piegza wro costa vitale videofestival concorsi convegni >>>>Grandi festival: WRO2000. Tutto il programma. WRO2000@kultura, Wrocaw, November 20th - December 10th, 2000 International exhibition, congress and artistic activities devoted to changes of art, culture and everyday life in the age of digital technology. Piotr Krajewski - artistic director Violetta Kutlubasis-Krajewska - program director Zbigniew Kupisz - organizing director Agnieszka Kubicka-Dzieduszycka - curatorial cooperation The Museum of Wroclaw University, 1 Uniwersytecki Sq. (Mathematical Tower, the attics, Banach's Hall) >>>>Orlan ci informa del suo recente lavoro: Triomphe du baroque. >>>>Intervista a Mario Costa: impegnato da pi di vent'anni nella definizione di un'estetica dei media, ha pubblicato un gran numero di saggi e di volumi in Italia e all'estero (di Ida Gerosa) >>>>Incontro con Nando Vitale teorico della rete di formazione cyberpunk, autore del volume Cyberguida LA RETE CONTRO IL NICHILISMO MEDIALE >>>>Incontro con Richard Piegza performance in evoluzione nel web (di Caterina Davinio) >>>>Massimo Mori IL NONLUOGO DEI MUTAMENTI / YIN e YANG di Massimo Mori visto da Francesco Guerrieri e Piergiovanni Permoli >>>>Poevisioni Elettroniche 2000 - 2001 Il programma: Catalogo / Schede video / biografie degli artisti A DISPOSIZIONE DI OPERATORI CULTURALI INTERESSATI >>>>Il Grande Macello (di Marco Minicangeli) >>>>Esperimenti e contaminazioni: Caterina Davinio su Doll's il sito delle donne on line / Intervista / Arte, poesia e nuove tecnologie >>>>PREMIO INTERNAZIONALE "DONNA E POESIA" 2000-2001 APERTURA: 01. 11. 2000 SCADENZA: 01. 04. 2001 >>>>Viaggio a Cuba: GRAN DESFILE DE ARTE CORREO Amigos, del 13 al 20 de Noviembre estar en La Habana para participar en la 7ma. Bienal de La Habana. (di Clemente Padin) >>>>La rivista di ricerca letteraria "Anterem", diretta da Flavio Ermini, bandisce la XV edizione per Premio Nazionale di Poesia "Lorenzo Montano". >>>> Milano: Meeting: "Scritture / Realt" Linguaggi e discipline a confronto 18 e 19 novembre - NUOVO SPAZIO GUICCIARDINI (Via Macedonio Melloni, 3 - Milano) Tra i relatori e gli artisti: Adam Vaccaro, Marosia Castaldi, Gio Ferri, Gilberto Finzi, Milli Graffi, Tomaso Kemeny, Caterina Davinio, Marica Larocchi, Giancarlo Majorino, Giancarlo Pavanello, Franco Roman, Lelio Scanavini, Valeria Sgambati, Fausta Squatriti, Adam Vaccaro, Giuliano Zosi, Domenico Cara, Gillo Dorfles, Flavio Ermini, Giuliano Gramigna, Francesco Leonetti, Arrigo Lora Totino, Enrico Baj, Emilio Isgr, Fausta Squatriti e moltissimi altri. Il programma completo. >>>>Roma: "Vetrina Internazionale del Centro Nazionale di Drammaturgia" Alfio Petrini ci parla del progetto International Exhibition of Centro Nazionale di Drammaturgia / Rome / Italy Aree intermediali - Intermedia From 17 to 26 November - Fifth Edition Teatro Colosseo (Sala Grande) - Ridotto Colosseo (Sala A, B, C)., Via Capo d 'Africa, 5 Roma Experimental Theatre / Multimedia Performance / International video / Digital video / Videoinstallation / Interactive Installation / Stage / Photography / Poetry Performance / Editorial projects for web / The Italian National Centre of Drama, directed by Alfio Petrini, in the "Vetrina", dedicated to the intermedia, which takes pace in Rome (Colosseo Theatre), presents, together with new pieces of research theatre, a rich program of international video, digital video, interactive installations, multimedia performances. Il Centro Nazionale di Drammaturgia, nella "Vetrina" dedicata alle aree intermediali, presenta, accanto a nuove pieces di teatro di ricerca, un ricco programma di video internazionali, alcune installazioni interattive, performance multimediali. Tra i partecipanti: Fulvio Fiori, Alfio Petrini, Saverio La Ruina, Dario De Luca, Vasco Mirandola, Giorgio Rossi, Simone Sandroni, Miguel Pereira, Antonio Tagliarini, Anna De Manincor, Anna Rispoli, Leonardo Capuano, Bartolom Ferrando, Agostino di Scipio (testi poetici di Mariano Baino, Mario Lunetta, Anna Maria Giancarli) Stephen Cummins, "Mahalya Middlemist, Margie Medlin, Brigid Kitchin, Paul Hampton & Trevor Patrick, Jessica Fallace & Micelle Heaven, Cordelia Beresford, Quay Brothers, Margaret Williams, David Hinton, Ross McGibbon, Jane Thorburn, Brett Turnbull, Bob Bentley, Mike Stubbs, Dick Hauser, Wolke Kluppell, Paula van der Oest, Annick Vroom, Marijke Jongbloed, Caterina Davinio, Andreas Pinchler. Patrocinio: Senato della Repubblica, Camera dei Deputati, Ministero dei Beni e delle Attivit Culturali Dipartimento dello Spettacolo, Regione Lazio, Provincia di Roma, Coordinamento dei Parlamentari per la Innovazione Tecnologica, Associazione Nazionale dei Critici di Teatro, Sindacato Nazionale Scrittori, Sindacato Nazionale Autori di teatro. ________________________________________________________________ Karenina.it Experimental http://digilander.iol.it/karenina/ Karenna.it Project: who are we and how can you co-operate with us (in Italian) http://geocities.com/Paris/Lights/7323/manifesto.htm Davinio Art Electronics - Archives / Videotheque / Rome / Milan Art Electronics and Other Writings http://space.tin.it/arte/cprezi --- from list avant-garde@lists.village.virginia.edu --- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:52:11 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: tom bell Comments: To: poetics UB Poetics discussion group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable email for Brian Stefans? tom bell --- Jokes are at:=20 http://members.tripod.com/~trbell/laugh/ibs.htm Life designs: http://trbell.tripod.com/lifedesigns/ Art, poetry, webpoetry done by people with chronic physical=20 or mental problems (work that helped) at=20 http://members.tripod.com/~trbell/metaphor/metapho.htm _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_/??????????///-_ SOULSOLESOLO=20 <<<]]][[[[[[[[[[[[]]]]]]]]]]}}}}+++++++ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:56:07 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tenney Nathanson Subject: POG, this Saturday evening Nov 18: poet Cole Swensen, dancer Eno Washington Comments: To: Tenney Nathanson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit for immediate release POG presents Poet Cole Swensen choreographer/dancer Eno Washington Saturday, November 18, 7pm, Orts Theatre of Dance, 121 East 7th Street Admission: $5; Students $3 Cole Swensen is Director of the Creative Writing Program at the University of Denver. Her poetry has won three national awards: the National Poetry Series in 1987 for New Math, the 1995 New American Poetry Series Award given by Sun & Moon Press for Noon, and most recently the 1998 Iowa Poetry Prize for her collection Try. She serves as a contributing editor for American Letters and Commentary and for Shiny and is the translation editor for How2, the on-line continuation of How/ever. Eno Washington is a world-renowned specialist in Pan African dance. He’s also a Fulbright scholar, an author, and a choreographer, teacher, and performer. His biography and work are featured in Dance on the Wind: Memoirs of a Mississippi Shaman (NY: Cinema Guild, 1992). POG events are sponsored in part by grants from the Tucson/Pima Arts Council and the Arizona Commission on the Arts POG also benefits from the continuing support of The University of Arizona Extended University Writing Works Center, The University of Arizona Department of English, The University of Arizona Poetry Center, and the Arizona Quarterly for further information contact POG: 296-6416 tenney@azstarnet.com mailto:tenney@azstarnet.com mailto:nathanso@u.arizona.edu http://www.u.arizona.edu/~nathanso/tn/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:36:44 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Graham Foust Subject: new Lagniappe Comments: To: core-l@listserv.buffalo.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit And now here's something we hope you'll really like . . . The Winter/Spring/Summer/Fall/Millennium/Election issue of Lagniappe, featuring: Reviews of Céline, Tejada, Conant, Palmer, Raworth, Wenderoth, Hunt, Boughn, and Levi Strauss by Bataille, The Deming, Jennings, Krane, Qureshi, Ramos, Skinner, Smith, and Tejada. Essays by Robert Creeley, Logan Esdale, Alan Gilbert and Maureen Holm. http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~foust/lagniappe.html Thanks for your patience. We love you all. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:04:51 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Nielsen, Aldon" Subject: DELETE PREVIOUS MESSAGE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thought I was responding directly to a list member -- the two email systems I use display Poetics List messages and their addresses differently, so I sometimes can't tell if the message is from an individual or from the list -- sorry to have displayed my personal business -- " Subjects hinder talk." -- Emily Dickinson Aldon Lynn Nielsen Fletcher Jones Chair of Literature and Writing Loyola Marymount University 7900 Loyola Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90045-8215 (310) 338-3078 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:17:05 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Wallis Leslie Subject: Re: Nikuko tells the truth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi noble Poetics pundits, In the act of forwarding Alan Sondheim's breathtaking poem about not having enough bandwidth or megaherz, I notice that I'm wondering about where the linebreaks were originally supposed to be. Am I the only cyberreader who cares about linebreaks and their fragility in cyberpublication? Wallis Leslie --- Alan Sondheim wrote: > === > > > Nikuko tells the truth > > > "I haven't written anything in a long time, or, > rather, I write daily. But > it's not enough. I'm jealous of all of you pushing > the boundaries of new > media, university-connected, with the latest > equipment available, help > just around the corner. I'm jealous of beautiful > moving things on the > screen; my own Archive cdrom is clumsy, brute > directory organization, as > if the back-and-forth jump-start were sufficient. > Minimalism and the work- > load died out a long time ago, yet both of these are > rampant in the piece. > I'm jealous of collaborations; my miniscule perl or > qbasic programs permit > nothing. Looking at still images, reading lengthy > broken - but not anima- > ted or activated - texts, seems almost a waste of > time, the dissection of > a corpse (whose demise I announced decades ago). The > tiny quicktime flics > are still-born as well, almost invisible clumsy > actions, as if the low > bandwidth format were somehow still in vogue - > instead of an indication > of the poverty of the author. I can extrude > neurosis, body, sexuality, out > into the world through the most minimal of images - > but without followup > and the wonder of movement, everything is lost in > poverty. I retreat in an > attempt to argue that such poverty indeed carries > the force of truth - but > in fact, all it carries is emptiness, poor thinking, > organization, and art > in the face of capital and new media. I'm jealous of > everyone who is able > to go to new media conferences, meet up again and > again with old friends, > display their work. I want to be part of the > community; I want people to > see the life in my works, rise above the barrenness. > Clearly this is ask- > ing too much; my work courts death more than > anything it seems, with de- > pression coming in a close second. No one wants to > read about depression > or depressively, no matter how good the literary > sense or theoretical work > - it understandably goes for naught. I look at new > media work and see > brilliance and light and laughter and late-night > meetings and discussions; > I look at my own work and see programming ignorance, > poverty, and the > morgue. No wonder it's cast-off, cauterized, > ignored; it's caught between > literatures which clearly need not pay it attention, > and multi-media - > from which it is permanently and humorlessly > estranged. This work no long- > er stands on its own; it no longer has a place in > the cultural world. It > continues to be produced, only because of the > addiction I bring to it, and > it cannot last all that much longer, already > lifeless and buried," said > Nikuko, alone in that bar in that city. > > > === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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From: ART ELECTRONICS Organization: Art Electronics Subject: Karenina.it -- orlan mori piegza wro costa vitale videofestival MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Karenina.it Top News: orlan mori piegza wro costa vitale videofestival concorsi convegni >>>>Grandi festival: WRO2000. Tutto il programma. WRO2000@kultura, Wroc³aw, November 20th - December 10th, 2000 International exhibition, congress and artistic activities devoted to changes of art, culture and everyday life in the age of digital technology. Piotr Krajewski - artistic director Violetta Kutlubasis-Krajewska - program director Zbigniew Kupisz - organizing director Agnieszka Kubicka-Dzieduszycka - curatorial cooperation The Museum of Wroclaw University, 1 Uniwersytecki Sq. (Mathematical Tower, the attics, Banach's Hall) >>>>Orlan ci informa del suo recente lavoro: Triomphe du baroque. >>>>Intervista a Mario Costa: impegnato da più di vent'anni nella definizione di un'estetica dei media, ha pubblicato un gran numero di saggi e di volumi in Italia e all'estero (di Ida Gerosa) >>>>Incontro con Nando Vitale teorico della rete di formazione cyberpunk, autore del volume Cyberguida LA RETE CONTRO IL NICHILISMO MEDIALE >>>>Incontro con Richard Piegza performance in evoluzione nel web (di Caterina Davinio) >>>>Massimo Mori IL NONLUOGO DEI MUTAMENTI / YIN e YANG di Massimo Mori visto da Francesco Guerrieri e Piergiovanni Permoli >>>>Poevisioni Elettroniche 2000 - 2001 Il programma: Catalogo / Schede video / biografie degli artisti A DISPOSIZIONE DI OPERATORI CULTURALI INTERESSATI >>>>Il Grande Macello (di Marco Minicangeli) >>>>Esperimenti e contaminazioni: Caterina Davinio su Doll's il sito delle donne on line / Intervista / Arte, poesia e nuove tecnologie >>>>PREMIO INTERNAZIONALE "DONNA E POESIA" 2000-2001 APERTURA: 01. 11. 2000 SCADENZA: 01. 04. 2001 >>>>Viaggio a Cuba: GRAN DESFILE DE ARTE CORREO Amigos, del 13 al 20 de Noviembre estaré en La Habana para participar en la 7ma. Bienal de La Habana. (di Clemente Padin) >>>>La rivista di ricerca letteraria "Anterem", diretta da Flavio Ermini, bandisce la XV edizione per Premio Nazionale di Poesia "Lorenzo Montano". >>>> Milano: Meeting: "Scritture / Realtà" Linguaggi e discipline a confronto 18 e 19 novembre - NUOVO SPAZIO GUICCIARDINI (Via Macedonio Melloni, 3 - Milano) Tra i relatori e gli artisti: Adam Vaccaro, Marosia Castaldi, Gio Ferri, Gilberto Finzi, Milli Graffi, Tomaso Kemeny, Caterina Davinio, Marica Larocchi, Giancarlo Majorino, Giancarlo Pavanello, Franco Romanò, Lelio Scanavini, Valeria Sgambati, Fausta Squatriti, Adam Vaccaro, Giuliano Zosi, Domenico Cara, Gillo Dorfles, Flavio Ermini, Giuliano Gramigna, Francesco Leonetti, Arrigo Lora Totino, Enrico Baj, Emilio Isgrò, Fausta Squatriti e moltissimi altri. Il programma completo. >>>>Roma: "Vetrina Internazionale del Centro Nazionale di Drammaturgia" Alfio Petrini ci parla del progetto International Exhibition of Centro Nazionale di Drammaturgia / Rome / Italy Aree intermediali - Intermedia From 17 to 26 November - Fifth Edition Teatro Colosseo (Sala Grande) - Ridotto Colosseo (Sala A, B, C)., Via Capo d 'Africa, 5 Roma Experimental Theatre / Multimedia Performance / International video / Digital video / Videoinstallation / Interactive Installation / Stage / Photography / Poetry Performance / Editorial projects for web / The Italian National Centre of Drama, directed by Alfio Petrini, in the "Vetrina", dedicated to the intermedia, which takes pace in Rome (Colosseo Theatre), presents, together with new pieces of research theatre, a rich program of international video, digital video, interactive installations, multimedia performances. Il Centro Nazionale di Drammaturgia, nella "Vetrina" dedicata alle aree intermediali, presenta, accanto a nuove pieces di teatro di ricerca, un ricco programma di video internazionali, alcune installazioni interattive, performance multimediali. Tra i partecipanti: Fulvio Fiori, Alfio Petrini, Saverio La Ruina, Dario De Luca, Vasco Mirandola, Giorgio Rossi, Simone Sandroni, Miguel Pereira, Antonio Tagliarini, Anna De Manincor, Anna Rispoli, Leonardo Capuano, Bartolomé Ferrando, Agostino di Scipio (testi poetici di Mariano Baino, Mario Lunetta, Anna Maria Giancarli) Stephen Cummins, "Mahalya Middlemist, Margie Medlin, Brigid Kitchin, Paul Hampton & Trevor Patrick, Jessica Fallace & Micelle Heaven, Cordelia Beresford, Quay Brothers, Margaret Williams, David Hinton, Ross McGibbon, Jane Thorburn, Brett Turnbull, Bob Bentley, Mike Stubbs, Dick Hauser, Wolke Kluppell, Paula van der Oest, Annick Vroom, Marijke Jongbloed, Caterina Davinio, Andreas Pinchler. Patrocinio: Senato della Repubblica, Camera dei Deputati, Ministero dei Beni e delle Attività Culturali Dipartimento dello Spettacolo, Regione Lazio, Provincia di Roma, Coordinamento dei Parlamentari per la Innovazione Tecnologica, Associazione Nazionale dei Critici di Teatro, Sindacato Nazionale Scrittori, Sindacato Nazionale Autori di teatro. ________________________________________________________________ Karenina.it Experimental http://digilander.iol.it/karenina/ Karenna.it Project: who are we and how can you co-operate with us (in Italian) http://geocities.com/Paris/Lights/7323/manifesto.htm Davinio Art Electronics - Archives / Videotheque / Rome / Milan Art Electronics and Other Writings http://space.tin.it/arte/cprezi ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:41:42 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Judy McDonough Subject: addresses for Tom Andrews and Brent Goodman Comments: To: poetryetc@mailbase.ac.uk I'm looking for addresses for Brent Goodman, Tom Andrews. Can anyone help?? Judy Smith McDonough, editor, poetrynow http://www.poetrynow.org jsmcd@poetrynow.org ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 19:23:35 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Loss =?iso-8859-1?Q?Peque=F1o?= Glazier Subject: E-POETRY, 2001 - Temporary Extension of Deadline Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This posting is a reminder of the deadline for registering/submitting proposals to participate in "E-POETRY, 2001: An International Digital Poetry Festival", to be held be held in Buffalo, New York, April 19-21, 2001. The Festival promises to be a historic gathering of poets and writers engaged in new media work. The deadline for registering/proposing was Nov. 15th but with this reminder I would like to allow any interested parties through the end of November to respond. Details about the conference can be found at the Festival web page (http://epc.buffalo.edu/e-poetry/2001/). Though it may be possible to attend the conference without registering now, presenting/performing will be nearly impossible if proposals are not sent at this time. Apologies for any cross-posting. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Poetry 2001 Festival (http://epc.buffalo.edu/e-poetry/2001/) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:16:16 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetics List Administration Subject: announcement MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This message came to the administrative account. -- TS --On Friday, November 10, 2000, 7:26 PM +0000 JDHollo@aol.com wrote: > Just out from La Alameda Press / University of New Mexico Press: > > RUE WILSON MONDAY > Poems by Anselm Hollo > > 7 x 9 inches 112 pages > ISBN 1-888809-22-1 > $14.00 > > =93Anselm Hollo is this era=92s most clearsighted, uncommonly = cosmopolitan > upholder of diurnal poetry=92s cardinal rule: wax observant and follow = the > bouncing song. Witness this sonnet sequence, its steady energy pouring > across the page.=94 -- Bill Berkson > > =93It is a beautifully collaged daybook sequence, careening between = inspired > goo-goo language that turns into absolute clarity when pronounced aloud and > the Normal, i.e. Hollo=92s more lyrical, discursive voice. Very = vintage.=94 > -- Alice Notley > > =93Lovely? Deep? Funny? Angular? Brainy? Conversational? Literary? = > Goofy? Elegiac? Agile? *And all at the same time?* How does the = great > Anselm Hollo do it? Read *rue Wilson Monday* and find out!=94 -- Ron Padgett > > Available from your better bookstore, SPD, and the online outlets. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 17:17:51 -0500 Reply-To: patrick@proximate.org Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Patrick Herron Subject: Re: Poem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Obviously you are on a higher plane than anyone who works in information technology. Thanks for explaining the various levels of sociopoetic rank and dropping the level here some more. Seriously, I work in IT. I enjoy it. It expands the way I think and adds to my life. It pays my rent and even affords me some time to write. Considering the relatively shitty level of poetry and poetics writing from full-timers both fair and (usually) smug, I take personal offense at your remarks. I pay nothing for "real" poetry ("real" poetry is free, just look around yourself if you can see it, and I think you can see it). I don't feel I open some new "panorama" in the color to which you point just because I work in IT, certainly not in the tone you imply. I humbly ask you to keep your mind open. Generally an open mind allows people to learn and grow. Yes, this person could indeed be a bloodsucker, capital steeped in crimson and all that. As in *any* arena, there's always that possibility. Just look at poetics. But he also might be a fairly decent human being misguidedly looking for a poem for his daughter, perhaps because he might love her in a misguided way. Bottom line is, poetry IS for sale. I don't sell it, but most people here are constantly selling it. Some people here are even poetry professionals. Professional poets, teachers, critics, poseurs, etc. Getting salaries and comfy tenure couches, etc., etc. This is no moral crisis; everything is for sale. everything always HAS come down to resources. someone who thinks he or she is more pure of heart simply because of a difference of resources needs his or her gaskets replaced. the rich think they're better than the poor, because of standing and volume of possessions, the poor think they're better than the rich because they have been ennobled by suffering, and the academician, neither rich nor poor (usually more rich than poor) but landed by education and writing the Great Unread, thinks he is better than everyone else simply because he has more footnotes and a more "informed" taste. People are pretty damned funny. It's more enjoyable to laugh than to cry. Of course some of you will take this as a defense of avarice or an attack on academics or resentment. But then, this is an imaginative group, isn't it? Patrick Herron -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of Safdie Joseph Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 5:32 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: Poem Now HERE'S a real opportunity. I hope Mr. Louis' e-mail is flooded with eager applicants for this job. Just out of curiosity, how much is the IT Manager for Silicon Capital Limited willing to PAY for the privilege of having a real Poetics List member write him a real poem about "the spring season"? And will his daughter use said poem as her own, "sampling," as it were, the contents? Would the poet be offered round-trip air fare to counsel the daughter for the contest? I'd been pretty discouraged about the level of discourse on the List lately, but this opens all sorts of new panoramas. -----Original Message----- From: Charles [mailto:charles@SILICONCAPITAL.COM] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 5:18 AM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Poem I need a poem about Spring season for my daughter to partcipate in a contest. Can you able to help. Thanks. Regards, Charles Louis, IT Manager, Silicon Capital Limited 8 Duncannon Street London WC2N 4JF United Kingdom Direct line +44 207 484 5408 Fax +44 20 7681 2330 Switchboard +44 20 7484 5401 email:charles@siliconcapital.com The content of this email is confidential to the intended recipient(s) and may be legally privileged. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact Silicon Capital Ltd. quoting the name of the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. Please note that neither Silicon Capital Ltd. nor the author accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is the recipient's responsibility to scan attachments (if any). No contracts may be concluded on behalf of Silicon Capital Ltd. or the author by means of email communications unless they are digitally signed. This email has been prepared using information believed by the author to be reliable and accurate, but Silicon Capital Ltd. does not accept any liability as to the accuracy or completeness of the contents of this email. In particular, Silicon Capital Ltd. does not accept responsibility for changes made to this email after it was sent. Any opinions expressed in this document are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Silicon Capital Ltd. This message is provided for information purposes only and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 21:15:58 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Leonard Brink Subject: Avec Books congratulates Gad Hollander MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avec Books congratulates Gad Hollander, author of Walserian Waltzes and Benching With Virgil (Avec Books 2000). Hollander received the "special mention" award at the VIPER 20th international film, video & new media festival (Basel, Switzerland) for his PALAVER TRANSCRIPTION (37 mins, video). Cydney Chadwick, ed. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:44:33 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetics List Administration Subject: DEATH MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --On Sunday, November 19, 2000, 6:56 PM -0800 "Todd Baron" wrote: > unable to--and needing to--find a copy of DEATH by David Meltzer. (sub > title: sacred songs....). If anyone has a copy they'd like to sell--pls let > me know. > > As well as David's email address if you have it. which I've lost. > > > yrs, > > Todd Baron > ---------------------- > ReMap Readers > > toddbaron@earthlink.net ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:34:19 -0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Lawrence Upton Comments: To: poetryetc@mailbase.ac.uk, brit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FIFTH SUB VOICIVE COLLOQUIUM - CALL FOR PROPOSALS central London location 29th September 2001 exact times to be announced Theme: How do we perform that? Proposals are invited. Please send an outline of your proposal, in not more than 250 words. Send your proposals by email to sv.poetry@virginnet.co.uk with the subject line SVC5 PROPOSAL OR send by post with stamped addressed envelope or international reply coupon to: SVC5, 32 Downside Road, Sutton, Surrey SM2 5HP UK Deadline for receipt of proposals: It doesn't work like that. If you are interested in contributing as a leading / initiating speaker, please express interest quickly even if you want a little longer to send your proposal. Expansion of theme: What is the relationship between what is on the page and what is performed, visually, aurally and gesturally? This question is clearly central to the performance of visual poetry, but the Fifth Sub Voicive Colloquium will aim to look at any or all aspects of innovative and investigative poetry Background information:- Because the event is a colloquium, the day will be structured to encourage informed talk between all present across a range of related topics. Contributors are asked to lead and stimulate discussion on these topics, as they help to initiate them, by speaking for perhaps 15 minutes in such a way as to encourage response, for which another 15 minutes is scheduled; they are asked to try not to prepare a full text (and not to prepare an academic paper even if their work will lead later to an academic paper) and to speak extempore as much as possible. In this way, all present will be able to participate fairly fully The Sub Voicive Colloquia grew out of the concerns of Sub Voicive Poetry readings and remain intimately concerned with the implicit evolving agenda of that reading series. It is strongly suggested that familiarity and sympathy with that agenda is a prerequisite for leading contributors to the SV Colloquia. On the other hand, it is intended that the colloquium itself will be open to all who wish to attend, attend to and join the discussions. Those who are unfamiliar with Sub Voicive Poetry are referred to the extensive documentation at http://matrix.crosswinds.net/members/~subvoicivepoetry/ To be added to the SVP emailing list, contact SVP on: sv.poetry@virginnet.co.uk ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:41:00 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Daniel Kane Subject: poetry in comedy? Comments: To: writenet@twc.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm hopeful that people on this list might have top tips for me on articles discussing the fate, uses, reception etc. of funny poetry -- that is, how has poetry that's often funny (one thinks of Kenneth Koch, Ron Padgett, Edward Lear, etc.) been treated by "academic" or "mainstream" critics? I'm having trouble locating articles/essays that deal with such questions. Please backchannel suggestions to dkane@panix.com. thanks in advance. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 14:24:13 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: owner-realpoetik@SCN.ORG Subject: RealPoetik Arupa Chiarini Arupa Chiarini is still fighting the good fight. Her latest play,"Homeless in Gainesville, Florida" can be retitled with any place you choose and used by any group as a fundraiser to directly benefit homeless people, without payment of royalties. For details contact barupa@atlantic.net. Cheeseburger Heaven The radical catholic marxist anarchist dope fiend workers of the world took over Disney World Goofy shook hands with children saying, "Don't grow up stupid like your parents, hosing the world with rivers of Pepto-Bismol-colored Barbie shoes rising up through drainpipes, just catching in the mouths of the dying sleeping on the pavement outside concentration camps where displayed jeans and T-shirts made by Indonesian slaves are sold by aching robots to the shuffling masses yearning to have perfect graveyard teeth and life to be always that moment when the cheeseburger starts tasting like the godly platonic orgasmic gigantic euphoric Cheeseburger they see on television sets that hang from trees on city streets and never leave the mouths of the beholders, life everlasting in Cheeseburger Heaven, is that what you want?" Quoth Goofy. Arupa Chiarini ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 04:08:10 +0000 Reply-To: anielsen@lmu.edu Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: anielsen@LMU.EDU Subject: Free The Chads! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Since the Republicrats have already decided to dig up part of the Lincoln Memorial grounds, I suggest we install a new monument -- The Memorial to the Fallen Chad "Has All-- a Codicil?" -- Emily Dickinson Aldon Lynn Nielsen Fletcher Jones Chair of Literature and Writing Department of English Loyola Marymount University 7900 Loyola Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90045-8215 anielsen@lmu.edu (310) 338-3078 _________________________________________________ The simple way to read all your emails at ThatWeb http://www.thatweb.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:06:50 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Robert Archambeau Subject: Samizdat #6/free offer MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Announcing... S A M I Z D A T # 6 Featuring... T O P O G R A P H Y a series on Jerusalem, fatherhood and mathematics by new poet STACY CARTLEDGE introduced by KEITH TUMA And... Eritrean poet REESOM HAILE translated by CHARLES CANTALUPO with "The Word from Asmara" and "The Asmara Declaration on African Languages and Literatures" Plus poems by... HARRIET ZINNES MICHAEL SMITH MICHAEL LEDDY FRANK ROGACZEWSKI DEVIN JOHNSTON SAMUEL HAZO And... "The Word from India" With Reviews of... Ric Caddel's "For the Fallen" & "Mechanics of the Mirage: Post-War American Poetry" --------------------------------------------------------- "Sweet Lawdy Mama! How can I get one?" Funny you should ask. To order: send $3.50 (or $10 for a three-issue subscription) to Robert Archambeau 9 Campus Circle Lake Forest, IL 60045 (checks made out to R. 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Robert Archambeau ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:55:03 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetics List Administration Subject: NY Reading: Ashbery, Clark, Sieburth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This message came to the administrative account. -- TS --On Tuesday, November 21, 2000, 5:41 PM -0500 "Lytle Shaw" wrote: > Line Reading Series > Poetry Reading > in conjunction with The Drawing Center=92s exhibition > =93Untitled Passages by Henri Michaux=94 > > December 5th, 2000 at 7pm > > John Ashbery > Jeff Clark > Richard Sieburth > > at The Drawing Center, 35 Wooster (between Grand and Broome) > Admission is $5; and free to The Drawing Center members > > John Ashbery is author of over 20 books of poetry and criticism, > including Three Poems (Viking, 1972), Self-Portrait in a Convex Mirror > (Viking, 1975) and Flow Chart (Knopf, 1991). He has won The Pulitzer > Prize, The National Book Critics Circle Award, The National Book Award, > as well as Guggenheim and MacArthur Fellowships. His most recent book > is Your Name Here (FSG, 2000). Ashbery=92s 1961 interview with Michaux = is > reprinted in The Drawing Center=92s current exhibition catalog. > > Jeff Clark is author of The Little Door Slides Back (Sun and Moon, > 1997). His poetry has appeared in many magazines including The Baffler, > American Letters & Commentary, and Boston Review. Clark=92s work has = been > informed by Michaux=92s writing and drawing. Clark lives in San > Francisco, where he edits the magazine Faucheuse. > > Richard Sieburth=92s works of criticism include Instigations: Ezra Pound > and Remy de Gourmont (Harvard, 1978) and A Walking Tour of Southern > France: Ezra Pound Among the Troubadours (New Directions, 1992). He is > also a well-known translator of authors including Walter Benjamin, > Maurice Blanchot and Friedrich H=F6lderlin. Sieburth has contributed = both > an essay on Michaux and a translation of the poet=92s > =C9mergences-R=E9surgences for the current exhibition. Sieburth is > professor of French and comparative literature at NYU. > > For more information, please contact Line Reading curator Lytle Shaw > at The Drawing Center (219 2166) . > > > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:51:35 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: KNEOWLGNIK Comments: To: webartery@egroups.com, randomart@egroups.com, epos@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kneowlgnik (ne owlj' nik) n. extemporaneously coined term for anyone who takes an interest in the process & creation of neologisms & demonstrates this interest by joining the NEOLOGISMS mailinglist. to subscribe send a blank message addressed to: NEOLOGISMS-subscribe@egroups.com or visit: http://www.egroups.com/group/NEOLOGISMS ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 05:19:43 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jim Andrews Subject: Oppen Do Down (shockwave) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've done a kind of sound poem at http://vispo.com/vismu/OppenDoDown.htm. It's an interactive shockwave 8 piece that also needs a pair of speakers. It's an exploration of layers of sound. There's a related piece at http://vispo.com/vismu/prototype101.htm. This one also involves sequences. The downloads are 300-500k. They're not streaming yet. Regards, Jim Andrews www.vispo.com www.webartery.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 20:27:41 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kenneth Goldsmith Subject: U B U W E B :: N E W__R E S O U R C E S :: L A T E__A U T U M N__2000 Comments: To: Silence List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable UbuWeb Visual, Concrete + Sound Poetry http://www.ubu.com U B U W E B :: N E W__R E S O U R C E S :: L A T E__A U T U M N__2000 ---HISTORICAL--- Arabic Calligraphers in Paris (1970s) [Hossein Zenderoudi] [Hassan Massoudy] [Rachid Korachi ] =46rench Letterists 1940s-1970s [Albert Dupont] [Isidore Isou] [Gabriel Pomerand] [Fran=E7ois Poyet] [Alain Satie] Bern Porter: 76 Found Poems ---CONTEMPORARY--- Michael Basinski: The Doors Charles Bernstein + Susan Bee "Log Rhythms" Brian Lennon : New Flash Poetry Brian Lennon + Jim Andrews: New JavaScript Poetry Marilyn Rosenberg: Visual Poetry from the 1980s Sam Stark: 6 Animations ---SOUND--- Georges Aperghis - Recitations for Solo Voice, 1977-1978 Antonin Artaud - Pour en finir avec le jugement de dieu (1947, complete) Samuel Beckett - Theatrical Interpretations of Texts Henri Chopin - Le Corpsbis & Co. =46luxus Anthology Takayuki Nakano - 2 Poems with text by James Joyce Joerg Piringer - New Political Sound Poems Pierre Schaeffer - Solfege de l'object sonore Demetrio Stratos - Cantare la Voce ---FOUND + INSANE--- 18 New Found + Insane Poems from the Streets of New York City ---PAPERS--- Darren Wershler-Henry, ed. Open Letter 3 (2000) John Strausbaugh on David Daniels UbuWeb Visual, Concrete + Sound Poetry http://www.ubu.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 21:33:10 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tenney Nathanson Subject: POG fundraising efforts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit just a gentle reminder: some ways you can support POG (which seriously needs support, to the tune of a few thousand dollars to balance our 2000-2001 budget): --POG t-shirts are $15 (m,l,xl,xxl) --POG ONE anthology is $10 --season subscription is $30; or become a sponsor ($50) or patron ($100) and (if you like) get listed as such on our publicity--AND get one free gift (sponsors) or two (patrons): from among t-shirt, POG ONE, POG TWO (due out in early spring). t-shirt, anthology, and subscription/sponsor/patron forms are available at all POG events. or: reply to this email, make a pledge, and (if you like) we can figure out how to get your goods and gifts to you before the next POG event (!). eternal gratitude, artistic benisons, etc etc bestowed on all donors! happy Thanksgiving to all, Tenney (Nathanson, for POG) mailto:tenney@azstarnet.com mailto:nathanso@u.arizona.edu http://www.u.arizona.edu/~nathanso/tn ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:26:02 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kristen Gallagher Subject: new from handwritten press MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Happy Turnkey Day from the lockdown snow-in lovefest that is Buffalo, NY! Handwritten Press is pleased to announce the first publication of Alicia Cohen, entitled _b EAR_. This is a book of incredible insight. The blanks in the poems are full of what creates them; words, syllables and phrases connect precisely as if across synapses of intellect and intuition. Words and histories flash and fall, opening mind, affect, fields of clashing possibility. Some of these poems "take place" in and respond to specific locations, including Buffalo, NY, where Alicia recently lived for about 5 years. The stark white cover and green leaves of paper in the form of the book are one small way we tried to embody that. (8.5 "x 8.5", white hand-torn watercolor paper cover, japanese box stitch binding, 71 pp, $7) There is also a second edition of the book _Project Experience: Museums, Archives, Monuments, Bureaus_ by Joshua Schuster. This delicate passport into the agency within the institution excited a number of readers in 1999 and SPD keeps telling me they need more. This edition is not hand-sewn, but side-stapled - only because the printer accidentally stapled them and being a busy grad student I took it as a sign. (3"x 5", modeled on the US passport, 49 pp, $3) Please send orders to Small Press Distribution. http://www.spdbooks.org You can preview these books on our website. Keep in mind that images within acutal books often do not make it into the website edition. http://www.english.upenn.edu/~wh/handwritten Feel free to email me with responses at kcg2@acsu.buffalo.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:05:49 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dickison Subject: Jennifer MOXLEY & Fanny HOWE, Thurs Nov. 30, 7:30 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable POETRY CENTER 2000 The Poetry Center & American Poetry Archives presents An evening with poets JENNIFER MOXLEY & FANNY HOWE Thursday, November 30, 7:30 pm, $5 donation @ the Unitarian Center 1187 Franklin (at Geary) Two of the most discerning lyric voices in contemporary poetry share the stage tonight. JENNIFER MOXLEY, born and raised in southern California, now lives at a perfect diagonal across the country in Orono, Maine. Her books of poetry include the remarkable debut volume _Imagination Verses_ (Tender Buttons, 1996) and, recently, _Wrong Life_ (Equipage, UK, 1999). She edited the magazine _The Impercipient_, and, with Steve Evans, The Impercipient Lecture Series. Ms. Moxley's poetry--"with a nose for small / powers and their logics"--balances rhetorical elegance, philosophic doubt, and a spirited communitarian conviction. =46ANNY HOWE's _Selected Poems_ was just published in UC Press's New California Poetry series. ". . . one of our most vital, unclassifiable writers. . . . The transparency of her music is deceptive, encompassing the complexities of philosophic and ethical speculation, always testing. . =2E . In that chasm between the ways of the world and our ways of understanding, we remain, as Howe puts it, 'bewildered.' This bewilderment comprises both a 'poetics and an ethics,' a vocation that acknowledges suffering while refusing to succumb to despair. The poem then becomes a bridge to survival." (Ammiel Alcalay, VLS). A Boston native, Ms. Howe lives in Los Angeles and teaches at UC San Diego. This event is supported by Poets & Writers, Inc. through a grant is has received from The James Irvine Foundation. Coming up.... The George Oppen Memorial Lecture in Twentieth Century Poetics SUSAN THACKREY Thursday, December 7, 7:30 pm, $5 donation @ the Unitarian Center 1187 Franklin (at Geary) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D THE UNITARIAN CENTER is located at 1187 Franklin St. at the corner of Geary on-street parking opens up at 7:00 pm from downtown SF take the Geary bus to Franklin A $5 donation is requested. SFSU students and Poetry Center members get in free. The Poetry Center's programs are supported by funding from Grants for the Arts-Hotel Tax Fund of the City of San Francisco, the California Arts Council, the National Endowment for the Arts, Poets & Writers, Inc., and The Fund for Poetry, as well as by the College of Humanities at San =46rancisco State University, and by donations from our members. Join us! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Steve Dickison, Director The Poetry Center & American Poetry Archives San Francisco State University 1600 Holloway Avenue ~ San Francisco CA 94132 ~ vox 415-338-3401 ~ fax 415-338-0966 http://www.sfsu.edu/~newlit ~ ~ ~ L=E2 taltazim h=E2latan, wal=E2kin durn b=EE-llay=E2ly kam=E2 tad=FBwru Don't cling to one state turn with the Nights, as they turn ~Maq=E2mat al-Hamadh=E2ni (tenth century; tr Stefania Pandolfo) ~ ~ ~ Bring all the art and science of the world, and baffle and humble it with one spear of grass. ~Walt Whitman's notebook ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:58:52 +1100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: geraldine mckenzie Subject: email address for Rebecca Wolff Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Can anyone help me out with an email address for Rebecca Wolff - please send it back-channel. Thanks in advance Geraldine McKenzie _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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From: greg Subject: Prageeta Sharma and Fran Ryan at Highwire @ La Tazza Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" HIGHWIRE READINGS NOW AT LA TAZZA 108 Chestnut Street Philadelphia, PA in Old City between 2nd and Front Streets (215) 922-7322 Every other Saturday @ 7:00 PM "Nothing gets me higher than a Highwire Reading!"-Buck Downs "That READING last night was ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!"-C.A. Conrad December 2 Fran Ryan and Prageeta Sharma Fran Ryan is writing a book literally about the politics of labor and figuratively about Philadelphia trash workers. Prageeta Sharma's Bliss To Fill (Subpress, 2000) is one of the hottest selling books on the Subpress list. Don't miss her. December 16 Janet Mason and Anselm Berrigan Janet Mason will make you crack up laughing and send you home thinking. Anselm Berrigan is our holiday gift for you, our faithful followers. Reading Report Last reading came-off wonderfully despite some last minute pre-reading hijinx. Wendy Kramer was a no-show. She called Frank Sherlock at 5 P.M. the night of the reading and told him, "I'm at Penn Station. I lost my ticket. I guess I'm not coming." Frank was so totally shocked that he couldn't come up with a response quick enough to persuade her to come anyway. Frank and I sat in his living room trying to devise a solution while Matt McGoldrick looked at an art book and busted our chops. Frank thought we should get a replacement. I thought we could all use an hour of Don Riggs. We decided we could only ask a substitute that possessed a level of professionalism so high that they could just walk on stage. They should also be good natured enough to not get bent out of shape for the last minute request. We couldn't think of anyone. We thought of asking Kyle Conner, but we assumed he was working late. We left for La Tazza hoping that Kim Soli would be there with her notebook and be willing to read. We also thought of asking Matt's friend Sean. He's not a poet, but he's from Fishtown and tells hilarious and bawdy stories. We thought he'd really loosen up the crowd. When Frank and I arrived at La Tazza I saw David Kirschenbaum in the corner sitting with C.A. Conrad. I looked at Frank and said, "There's our man. David Kirschenbaum. He'll do it, he'll have the work." So David filled in for Wendy and did a marvelous job. He saved the game. He read lots of baseball poems. He read a piece about making love with a woman in Anselm B's bed back in San Francisco. Which made me throw my head back in shock. A table of French people sat in the back. They talked throughout the reading. Jenn McCreary said this is going to get ugly. Frank considered throwing a book at them. I thought it was funny. Poets can learn from working a tough room. And I did hear more than one of them say more than one time, "Appollinaire! Appollinaire!" Don Riggs was the bard of all bards. He read all sonnets. He downed a glass of wine in one gulp just before reading. He told great anecdotes about leaving teaching as a professor to get an MFA at Temple, about the Washington Senators, and wrestling with cyclops. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:44:53 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: William Slaughter Subject: Notice: Mudlark In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII New and On View at Mudlark Flash No. 8 (2000) Michael Neff | Family Michael Neff writes both fiction and poetry, but is better known as the Editor-in-Chief and founder of Web Del Sol, a literary arts "city" on the web. His work has appeared in North American Review, Pittsburgh Quarterly, Web Conjunctions, Quarterly West, Octavo, Poetry Cafe, and American Way. Spread the word. Far and wide, William Slaughter _________________ MUDLARK An Electronic Journal of Poetry & Poetics Never in and never out of print... E-mail: mudlark@unf.edu URL: http://www.unf.edu/mudlark ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 18:51:50 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: GasHeart@AOL.COM Subject: Philly: Theater, Music, Film - special movie wed., and special speaker sat. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1. there will be a special movie called Candy, wed.,11/22, 8pm see below....= .. 2. and a special speaker, Timothy "Speed" Levitch, Sat., 11/25, 8pm, at the=20 lost film fest at 4040 locust....see below this wednesady at 8pm there will be a special screening of a great movie,=20 "Candy". Candy is one of the greatest movies ever made, and and i suggest everyone=20 go.....you won't be disappointed. it is a trippy 60's movie that is worth=20 seeing over and over again.....john astin is in it, he played gomez adams in= =20 the tv show The Adams Family and you can see his total wackiness here.....th= e=20 soundtrack is dreamy/wonderful, Candy was written by Buck Henry, who also=20 wrote the tv show Get Smart, by the way Buck Henry is in Candy with a cameo=20 as the guy in the straight jacket....the movie follows our main character,=20 beautiful Candy, and her travels meeting lots of weird characters......among= =20 them are Ringo Starr as the gardener, and Marlon Brando as the guru in the=20 back of an 18 wheeler truck....by the way, the scene where two people are=20 inside a bag is a reference to john lennon and yoko ono's "bagism", a=20 performance art piece involving holding a press conference where john and=20 yoko were completely inside a bag/sack, and gave the whole press conference=20 like that, announcing the idea that what they look like was not so important= =20 as what they were saying......and the spirit is what counts.......not your=20 looks...etc.,... by the way, Candy was based on a book (also called Candy) by terry southern,= =20 who wrote the movie Brazil. Candy will be shown at the Ruba Club, 414 Green St.......it is film, not=20 video.....and is being shown by todd kimmell of the northern liberties arts=20 association. it is a fundraiser for the northern liberties arts association,= =20 and includes a party following the movie, and is $6, and worth it! -josh (below is todd's press release with more info about the movie, and=20 the internet movie database info) __________________________________________________________ Subj: Candy Press Release Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 9:27:34 PM From: TINCANNERS@aol.com PRESS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CANDY SERVED UP AS A PRE-THANKSGIVING TREAT This Wednesday, November 22, the night when everyone is home for Thanksgivin= g=20 and no one has to get up early the next day, THE NORTHERN LIBERTIES ARTS=20 ASSOCIATION presents the remarkably bizarre film, CANDY (1968 Christian=20 Marquand d.) followed by holiday revelry at THE RUBA CLUB, an appropriately=20 strange setting at 414 Green Street in Northgern Liberties. Showtime 8 PM. From Terry Southern=92s landmark tongue-in-cheek novel, this is the film tha= t=20 EVERYONE in Hollywood wanted to be in, and damn near everyone is. RICHARD=20 BURTON plays a drunken Welsh poet superstar touring the college circuit=85 =20= a=20 svelt MARLON BRANDO plays a guru whose ashram is in the back of a tractor=20 trailer=85 RINGO STARR plays Manuel the gardener=85 JOHN ASTIN plays Candy= =92s=20 father and her uncle=85WALTER MATHEAU, JAMES COBURN, the list goes on, all w= ho=20 manage to stumble forwards or backwards across the path of EWA AULIN, the=20 former Miss Teen Scandinavia who plays our budding heroine, Candy. Undeniably strange, inexplicably obscure, very racy in its day, CANDY is=20 nowadays a jaw dropping spectacle of a moment in time. The folks at the NLA= A=20 thought this (and the after party) was the kind of image they wanted to=20 represent them to the world. Go figure! Happy Thanksgiving! For more information, contact Todd Kimmell ________________________________________________________ and from www.imdb.com (imdb stands for internet movie database by the way),=20 the website with info on every movie ever created....here is some more info=20 on the movie "Candy" Summary: Wildly enjoyable satire featuring an all-star cast They don't make 'em like this anymore. Based on Terry Southern's classic=20 novel, CANDY is remarkable film featuring a swinging soundtrack, actors like= =20 Richard Burton and Marlon Brando spoofing themselves, and a fast-moving=20 picaresque story that satirizes late 60s America (military, academia, Easter= n=20 religion, etc). Criticized upon release for lack of any coherent story, is=20 one of the best films from that era. Advocating sexual freedom and=20 experimentation, Candy is one fun movie with a funny script by Buck Henry an= d=20 wild visuals, like a glass-bottom limousine and Brando's gurumobile. A=20 must-see!**** ___________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________ 2. and a special speaker, Timothy "Speed" Levitch, Sat., 11/25, 8pm, at the=20 lost film fest at 4040 locust.... Timothy Speed Levitch 60 Min -TIMOTHY "SPEED" LEVITCH (THE CRUISE) will help=20 celebrate the one year anniversary of the Lost Film Festival with a UNIQUE=20 SPOKEN WORD PERFORMANCE for One night only on Sat, Nov 25 2000(8pm -10pm=20 slot) Levitch was a guest speaker during the first Lost Film event (Nov 99)=20 speaking to a packed audience at the Fakehaus following Artisan's THE CRUISE= .=20 Following several appearances on the CONAN O' BRIEN show, his notoriety for=20 mixing philosophical brilliance and pop-culture hijinx continues with the=20 upcoming release of his guidebook to NYC, and role in WAKING LIFE (dir.=20 Richard Linklater). this will be great, i (josh aka gasheart) saw him last year and he was=20 spellbinding, try to see speed levitch, a philosopher, he speaks at 8pm at=20 4040 locust, sat, 11/25....the lost filmfest will be at 4040 locust, 11/25=20 sat. and 11/26 sun., from 2pm till midnight, $6 for all day pass more info for whole list of films to be shown .... see....www.lostfilmfest.c= om p.s. the movie "The Cruise" starring Speed Levitch is worth renting if you=20 can find it......maybe at tla video........Speed Levitch bases his philosoph= y=20 on being a tour guide in new york city and describing what he sees ___________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________ well, that's all for now..... josh GasHeart@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 14:13:18 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Fouhy Subject: HS POETRY NIGHT Comments: To: Alessandra Lynch , "Amy Beaudry (new)" , "ANNEBUTTS@aol.com" , "Annlisa@aol.com" , Beth Mckeon , "BJCarson@aol.com" , Bruce Morrow/T&W , "Burke, Mary-Louise" , Carol Johnson , "CFGreenwd@aol.com" , "Chapter9@aol.com" , "chillyb@banet.net" , "Courtland Review, Guy Shahar" , David Albano , Douglas J Michael , "DSloan@bestweb.net" , "Evalina22@aol.com" , "Helensadler@aol.com" , "Hoppenthaler, John" , "Jaksawake@aol.com" , JAMIE , "Jhalp1929@aol.com" , "john@teenink.com" , "JunkyardCat003@aol.com Chris" , "Kathy Johnson (E-mail)" , "kestrel@mail.fscwv.edu" , "Kmishkin2000@aol.com" , "KTOvrutsky@aol.com" , "KStasiak@aol.com" , "kvspoetry@aol.com" , Lauren Peterson , "MHunnewell@aol.com" , "mptpoet@aol.com" , Nancy Desmond , Nanette , "NCGiles@aol.com" , PETER PIOPPO/Mauri , "radio@ncpr.org" , "Remsenman@aol.com" , "RinaLanger@aol.com" , Robert Cooper , Robin Osborne , "Ron Egatz (new)" , Ron Price , "rtwnsnd@bestweb.net" , "RUTHANDLEN@aol.com" , "Salious1@aol.com" , "sclearylangley@WorldSpy.net" , "SSAPhD@aol.com" , "Suecase@aol.com" , writenet , "zorky@aol.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE November 16, 2000 Northern Westchester Center for the Arts 272 N. Bedford Rd. Mt. Kisco, NY 10549 Creative Arts Cafe Poetry Series High School Writers Nite Mt. Kisco, NY: The Northern Westchester Center for the Arts: November 27th at 7:00 PM, The Creative Arts Cafe Poetry Series at Northern Westchester Center for the Arts continues its High School Writers Nite Series with feature poet Vanessa Schneider from Horace Greeley High School. An OPEN MIKE for poets, writers and musicians follows the reading. There will also be a performance by a folk band. The Creative Arts Café Poetry Series features a High School poet the last Monday of each month. Student features are selected through recommendation of teachers and peers. Vanessa Schneider is a student of Alessandra Lynch, creative writing teacher at Horace Greeley. The OPEN MIKE segment invites students and adults to share the oral tradition of poetry by reading an original poem or a poem by a favorite author. Readers may also select a short monologue, short-short story, or a musical piece. The reading begins at 7:00. Suggested donation is $3.00 The NWCA is located at 272 North Bedford Road, Rte 117.For further information, please contact NWCA, Cindy Beer, Program Coordinator, 914 241 6922. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:23:06 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Report of a talk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII - Report of a talk I gave a talk to a few of McKenzie Wark's students and others and stumbled through the entire thing, the result of no sleep and even for the first time an inability to focus; I felt sick. But I did manage to talk about - taking off from Anthony Wilden's work of a few decades ago - the radical moment we live in, a moment in which the digital regime begins to replace the analogical. I talked about, apologizing all the while for exhaustion, the relation of the analogical to deep identity, identity all the way down, and the digital in relation to skittered surface equivalences - and the differences between the two. Equivalence has no original; entities are defined by attributes and solely by attributes, as if what it does in any particular case, any other within the regime does in any particular case. But from identity, nothing can be determined... I spoke about tolerances as well as facticity - a tree represented by a single pixel in relation to another pixel representing a second tree, the pixels equivalent - and what that says about the identity of the referent, if anything. Half falling over, I briefly described Tarski's work on truth (it was Tarski who cri- tiqued Spencer Brown's Laws of Form, which I discussed briefly afterwards) - as well as truth both in terms of deep identity (bringing in Saul Krip- ke's theory of rigid designators, natural kinds, and possible worlds), and equivalences - skittered and situational truths requiring almost a Tertul- lian to look for grounding in absurdity - the alternative being proto-fas- cism. I spoke about mediaspace as well, a combination of analog and dig- ital regimes of projections and introjections. I talked about language as performativity, and the different phenomenologies of linux prompts on one hand and microsoft windows systems on the other - areas of the screens de- fined as potentials, closed source vs. open source software (appliance and structural/configurable models), and using programs as catalysts for writ- ing. Utterly exhausted and swimming in seminar space, I spoke about the Book/Ends conference in Albany I had recently attended, and how the mourn- ful attitude of the Derrideans towards the book was based on notions of deep truth and identity; it was this identity regime that was becoming in- creasingly problematized, as evident from intellectual property issues, privacy issues, censorship issues, and so forth, online. I also talked about the media people at the conference, and their feeling of exclusions - as well as excitement over working and skittering across borders and protocols, working towards planetary distribution systems. I talked about how the media people talked a lot about protocols and techniques and shar- ing these things, all of which are, like intensely situated truths, skit- tered equivalences, interoperabilities in computer terms. So that it was in a sense an entire older vision of the humanities, of human-ism, that was at stake here. Almost entirely asleep, the outline from the pda so blurred I couldn't read it, I spoke about translations of analog into dig- ital and digital into analog, and the notions of generations in videotape - analog lasting with 3/4" for example maybe five generations at the most, while digital can last thousands, with intensely slow accumulations of errors, since the potential well - the plateau of writing - was much high- er than the level of random noise (very high signal to noise ratio). I spoke as well about fluidity, and the influence Brossard, Irigaray, and Kristeva have had on my work, and how on one hand one might consider flu- idity as a fundamental characteristic of the internet, and, on the other, there are also hackers and others who find the net a domain of potential and totalized power, not fluid at all but penetrable, able to be violated, controlled. Stumbling near the equipment table, I mumbled about gender on internet relay chat, and some of Nikuko's activities there. Nearly sound asleep and shaking with exhaustion by this point, I concluded by reading two texts from the mediaspace series. After dinner with a few people, I returned with Azure to the media center. Foofwa has already left on a bus and we continue here, living in mediaspace 67, for a few more days. I write, still shaking, into the night. Azure is asleep. I think about fun- damental ontologies and their relationship to the analogical and identity - which I also talked about, deep ontologies - and problematized epistem- ologies of digital partial-domains always already undergoing reconnection - always already surface and skittered. Tonight I'll read in bed again, trying once more to make everything whole, or at least livable for anoth- er day. Tomorrow, I'll send this out. _ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:12:40 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: living in mediaspace68 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII - living in mediaspace68 68, azure reading, walking through the field 69, azure reading, walking down the path at a distance 79, azure reading, walking down the path a shorter distance 80, azure reading, approaching the camera from a shorter distance 81, azure reading, closer, walking down the path in winter 82, azure reading, in the woods near a small gorge, trees, streams, rocks 83, azure reading, walking by forked trees by the side of the gorge 84, azure reading, partially hidden by trees by the side of the gorge 85, azure reading, walking along a circular forest path 86, azure reading, turned slightly closer along the circular forest path 87, azure reading, walking by trees uprooted near a frozen marsh 88, azure reading, walking from a distance in the forest 89, azure reading, walking, bundled up, reading and walking the great forest towers above azure, azure is reading in the great forest the frozen marsh surrounds azure, azure is reading in the frozen marsh 90, reading of this world and another one before one's very eyes 91, reading of other worlds, and this one before one's very eyes - i will stop death by placing a tiny pebble in front of me i will stop death's hard breathing by placing a small rock i will stop death's approach by placing another stone i will stop death's reading and writing by placing a boulder a hill and a mountain, i will stop death in its tracks a mountain and planet, i will stop death's hard breathing - among them or before them all, azure, a wild reading a wild breathing, swaying, you can't hear a thing azure's screaming worlds, and words won't come azure's screaming words, and worlds won't come - death, forestall us in the forest, hinder our uneasy ways death, caress us against moving grids and cyclones, turn our images turn our images away from ourselves, the world erupts in desire desire burns through the world, death save us, protect us, caress us - in the forest, walking across the tiniest leaves the motions of light delicately walking and exploring the interior of a camera - 92, azure walking in the forest, reading 93, azure reading in the forest, walking - ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:05:18 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetics List Administration Subject: RealPoetik Web Site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This message came to the admin account. -- TS --On Thursday, November 23, 2000, 4:07 PM -0500 "L-Soft list server at University at Buffalo (1.8d)" wrote: > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 13:06:32 -0800 (PST) > From: owner-realpoetik@scn.org > Message-Id: <200011232106.NAA24468@scn.org> > Subject: RealPoetik Web Site > Sender: owner-realpoetik@scn.org > Precedence: bulk > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > > > RealPoetik is pleased to announce its volume #8, our website > archive, for the year 2000. Basically, everything posted > this year, as well as all previously posted work. Same site > as always, http://www.scn.org/realpoetik. > > Comments, criticism, correction, all to salasin@scn.org. > > > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:32:16 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Broder, Michael" Subject: Reading Between A&B MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I will be reading at the 11th Street Bar on Monday, November 27th, along with Jason Schneiderman, Kathleen Ossip, and--oops--I forget the name of the fourth person, but she's a fabulous poet by all accounts. The reading begins at 8 pm. The 11th Street Bar is at 510 East 11th Street, between Avenues A & B. This is Jason's and my first Duelling Boyfriend Poets reading. Hope to see you there. (People on my distribution list who live beyond a 50-mile radius of New York City are automatically excused.) Yours, Michael ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:34:00 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Elizabeth Treadwell Subject: LUCILLE READING PERIOD 2001 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" LUCILLE READING PERIOD 2001 During January & February 2001, we are accepting work of broadside (one page) and postcard (less) length for consideration for publication in the Lucille series. No email submissions please. We are particularly interested in work by writers who have not yet published a book, in hybrid writing, & in writing by women. Replies by March 15, publication in 2001. Double Lucy Books PO Box 9013 Berkeley, CA 94709 USA http://users.lanminds.com/dblelucy ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 22:02:03 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: derek beaulieu Subject: housepress - "deClerambault's Syndrome" by Stephen Cain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit housepress is pleased to announce the release of: "deClerambault's Syndrome" by Stephen Cain published in a handbound & numbered edition of 75 copies. Printed on 25% cotton fibre watermarked pages with rice paper flyleaves. $8.00 each Stephen Cain is the author of "Dyslexicon" (Coach House Books www.chbooks.com ) & the forthcoming "Torontology." He is also a literary editor for "Queen Street Quarterly" & publisher of Kitsch in Ink press. About "Dyslexicon", Christian Bok wrote "Cain has begun to distinguish himself as an important innovator who can offer a radical lexicon for a future poetry." For more information, or to order, contact: derek beaulieu housepress@home.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 22:22:34 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Austinwja@AOL.COM Subject: Re: poem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/25/00 6:51:40 AM, patrick@PROXIMATE.ORG writes: << Bottom line is, poetry IS for sale. I don't sell it, but most people here are constantly selling it. Some people here are even poetry professionals. Professional poets, teachers, critics, poseurs, etc. Getting salaries and comfy tenure couches, etc., etc. This is no moral crisis; everything is for sale. everything always HAS come down to resources. someone who thinks he or she is more pure of heart simply because of a difference of resources needs his or her gaskets replaced. the rich think they're better than the poor, because of standing and volume of possessions, the poor think they're better than the rich because they have been ennobled by suffering, and the academician, neither rich nor poor (usually more rich than poor) but landed by education and writing the Great Unread, thinks he is better than everyone else simply because he has more footnotes and a more "informed" taste. People are pretty damned funny. It's more enjoyable to laugh than to cry. Of course some of you will take this as a defense of avarice or an attack on academics or resentment. But then, this is an imaginative group, isn't it? Patrick Herron>> Ah yes, more "common" sense from the privileged. After all, there are many talented souls out there who still cannot afford computers, and are therefore excluded from our digital game. Amen, Patrick. The myth of the moral high ground has always concealed an appetite for power. I, as one poet/acco, do not take offense. In fact, I've spent years suggesting to students this very lesson. Historically, the victim is usually the potential, albeit less powerful, exploiter, which doesn't excuse the victimization, of course. Actually, I took your remarks as an offense to the Amish, though I was on my fourth vodka at the time. Here are two bits that jumped out at me the other day: "The Superior Man resolves to walk alone, and is caught in the rain. He becomes bespattered and people murmur against him. Where is the blame in this?" --The I Ching "They sent for an ambulance, and one was sent. Somebody got lucky, but it was an accident." --Bob Dylan Best to you, Patrick, and to all list members. Bill ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:30:16 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: tom bell Subject: massmarketing madmarketing at Christmas time Comments: To: poetics UB Poetics discussion group Comments: cc: subsub , British poets , webartery@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable at this point this is idle curiosity but i hope to implement it to = reality soon. has anyone had experience with, knowledge about mass = marketed small press books? I'm th8inking here of the Hallmark card = readers and my maiden uncle out to buy a small book of 'poems' for a = friend on the internet when he first gets a new computer for his = business. =20 tom bell --- Jokes are at:=20 http://members.tripod.com/~trbell/laugh/ibs.htm Life designs: http://trbell.tripod.com/lifedesigns/ Art, poetry, webpoetry done by people with chronic physical=20 or mental problems (work that helped) at=20 http://members.tripod.com/~trbell/metaphor/metapho.htm _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_/??????????///-_ SOULSOLESOLO=20 <<<]]][[[[[[[[[[[[]]]]]]]]]]}}}}+++++++ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 01:42:16 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: retrospective: living in mediaspace MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII - 101 retrospective: living in mediaspace 102 living in Medeaspace 0, we will claw and crawl our scarred bodies, we will not murder the children, we will murder the children, we will drink our blood, we will murder the children, our children, our texts 103 living in Medeaspace 1 azure, foofwa, and i are living in Medea space. the 104 line, the belly of it. living in Medeaspace 2 there's no escape; the sound 105 living in Medeaspace 3 it's here we create our body move- ments, over and 106 Medeaspace in 4 century-and-a-half old brick walls, wooden floors, skylight 107 being in Medeaspace 5 my hands move across the six strings of the electric being 108 into being. living in Medeaspace 6 intermittent taking of digital 109 virtual photos; we're leaving our tra- ces. living in Medeaspace 7 thus tracing our 110 amplifiers and sync gen- erators. living in Medeaspace 8 the day is ready 111 living in Medeaspace 9 we are sure to be activated; there's no uncertainty; 112 room pulses to a single sync; you can almost hear us living in Medeaspace, we will not murder the children, turn them on, turn you on, turn them on, we will murder our children, our texts 113 living in Medeaspace 114 28 studio with me, i'm typing in Medeaspace on a pc laptop, there's 115 living in 42 Medeaspace 116 living in Medea- space 60 117 living in Medeaspace: area 63 118 living in Medeaspace 119 living in Medeaspace 65 120 living in Medeaspace route 66, we will mur- der the children, we will claw our scars, we will tear our skins, we will murder our children, our children, our texts 121 In Medeaspace route 66 we are living tenth-alive tenth-virtual tenth- living in 122 imaginary space; in Medeaspace route 66 we are living among worlds, within 123 in Medeaspace route 66 we are traveling and remaining still; in Medeaspace 124 route 66 we are through the wires and the wires through; in Medeaspace 125 before the screen; in Medeaspace route 66 we are within the hearing 126 of the same and the other; in Medeaspace route 66 we are the virtual of 127 and the other of the real; in Medeaspace route 66 we are the virtual of 128 the real and the real of the other; in Medeaspace route 66; in Medeaspace 129 iism. I spoke about Medeaspace as well, a combination of analog and 130 two texts from the Medeaspace ser- ies. after dinner with a few people, 131 we continue here, living in Mede- aspace 67, for a few more days, we will tear our skin to pieces, we will tear our children, our texts, we will murder our children 132 living in Medeaspace68 133 :turned lost-body-skin sorenson codec turned living in Medeaspace 99 134 living in Medeaspace 135 189 I've liked the living in Medeaspace texts you've been writing, we will not tear our love to pieces, we will murder our bodies, we will murder our children, our children, our texts __ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:08:52 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Broder, Michael" Subject: Reading Between A&B With Anne Marie Macari MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Anne Marie Macari will be reading at the 11th Street Bar on Monday, November 27th, along with Kathleen Ossip, Jason Schneiderman, and myself. > The reading begins at 8 pm. > > The 11th Street Bar is at 510 East 11th Street, between Avenues A & B. > > This is Jason's and my first Duelling Boyfriend Poets reading. > > Hope to see you there. > > (People on my distribution list who live beyond a 50-mile radius of New > York City are automatically excused. Apologies for the repeat posting, > but I neglected to mention Anne Marie the first time around.) > > Yours, > Michael > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:43:15 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Elizabeth Treadwell Subject: Byrne & Kaipa Reading, Friday 12/1 at Small Press Traffic, SF Comments: cc: WOM-PO@listserv.muohio.edu, Realpo@listbot.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Friday, December 1, 2000, 7:30 PM Ted Byrne & Summi Kaipa Ted Byrne gives his first reading in San Francisco, continuing a long time practice of poetic exchange between our city and Vancouver, BC. He is currently a Director of the Trade Union Research Bureau in Vancouver, and is a member of the Kootenay School of Writing Collective. He is the author of Aporia (1989). Byrne is currently working on a novel entitled Beautiful Lies, portions of which have been published in the journals Raddle Moon, and W, and as chapbooks by Sprang Texts and Friends of Runcible Mountain. Beautiful Lies is truly a marvel of what can be done with prose, a joy and terror to read. He also often works in translation. With the late Charles Watts, he organized the big Blaser conference of 1995 and edited The Recovery of the Public World: Essays on Poetics in Honour of Robin Blaser (1999). Without ever seeming "trendy," Summi Kaipa infuses her poetry and prose with the daring energy and fun of pop music. She is a wry observer of the cultures that surround her, and a participant too, jumping off the bleachers to grab the ball and sink it into the basket. Summi Kaipa lives in San Francisco, where she edits Interlope, a journal of innovative Asian American poetics. Kaipa's critical and creative work has appeared in In These Times, San Francisco Bay Guardian, Rain Taxi, St. Mark's Poetry Project Newsletter, Chain, Rhizome, Kenning, and Fourteen Hills Review. Her first chapbook, The Epics, was published by Leroy in December 1999. Her most recent literary endeavors have appeared in self-published chapbooks entitled Forecast or Some Obscene Dare; Westward Ho; and In the Event of the Tropics, Your Cushion is Also a Rose. Timken Lecture Hall California College of Arts and Crafts 1111 Eighth Street, San Francisco (just off the intersection of 16th & Wisconsin) $5 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:25:46 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: baudelaire beauty products In-Reply-To: <01c101c052c0$2c990c40$5e45303f@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" hey dudes and guyzies -- there's a soap and scent line named after our charles b, that is baudelaire (not bernstein, not yet, but i can see the day...). click on sephora.com, and select "baudelaire" from their "product lines" it's a hoot. i think i'll sponsor a poetry contest using the concept and words from the display page and award will be a bar of baudelaire soap, okay the race is on! ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:34:31 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: owner-realpoetik@SCN.ORG Subject: RealPoetik Shannon Kenney More post-election triste from Shannon Kelley, who works at Northwestern University and can be reached at s-kenney@nwu.edu. election day al gore: this morning there are numbers floating in my coffee the physics of this is astounding somewhere a scientist envies me george w.: if you believe the theory there was a time when we simply split and became two or even more but we gave this up for other things like making up theories nader: they say jezebel's eyes were green bitch Shannon Kenney ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:45:25 +0000 Reply-To: anielsen@lmu.edu Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: anielsen@LMU.EDU Subject: speaking of LINGUA FRANCA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Those who took note of LINGUA FRANCA's unseemly joy at their role in the Sokal affair and the comeuppance of SOCIAL TEXT may take interest in the brief "APOLOGY" that appears on pg. 9 of the current issue -- where we learn that LINGUA FRANCA seems to have published an article in which "several passages . . . were reproduced nearly verbatim" from the CHRONICLE OF HIGHER EDUCATION, a publication we had some reason to suppose the editors at LF perused with some frequency. LF apologizes to the CHRONICLE and its writers,,,,, but no mention of any apology to those of us in the broad class of readers ---- a stiff dose of peer reviewing might well be advised on all sides? "Has All-- a Codicil?" -- Emily Dickinson Aldon Lynn Nielsen Fletcher Jones Chair of Literature and Writing Department of English Loyola Marymount University 7900 Loyola Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90045-8215 anielsen@lmu.edu (310) 338-3078 _________________________________________________ The simple way to read all your emails at ThatWeb http://www.thatweb.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:05:52 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: New Media Job Opening at U of MN In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Colleagues, I am asking you to forward this position announcement to anyone you know who might be interested. It is a tenure track position in the School of Journalism and Mass Communication at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis. As many of you know, I have a new position in the School after teaching at the Minneapolis College of Art and Design for fourteen years, in the design division. My profile is at: http://www.sjmc.umn.edu/faculty/gaiter.html I was hired by the University last spring as part of the New Media Initiative in the College of Liberal Arts. For more information, go to this web site: http://www.sjmc.umn.edu/publ/fact3.html Taking this position was a leap of faith for me and the School of Journalism. My concern was that the school, in spite of good intentions, might not truly be ready to include someone from a completely different disciplinary background. So far, my experience has been fabulous. I am impressed with their dedication to truly thinking outside the box. I have opportunities to collaborate and work with people in other departments. The students are interested in new media, are motivated, and have been accepted to the school through an application process. I have received a grant from the University with someone in graphic design to conduct a digital narrative experimental workshop. I have also received a grant for an interactive web site about "Unofficial Communication," public unsanctioned writings and messages, including graffiti and signs of all kinds. The School is genuinely interested in hiring more visual artists as part of this initiative, and encouraging exhibitions and art activity instead of journal articles. The criteria for tenure is not limited to traditional journalism activities. We are especially interested in people with interest and experience in digital video. The department has a newly renovated building with state of the art equipment. We are partners in a broadcast quality digital video studio on campus that rivals any local commercial television station in its capability. The School has recently received a gift of $10 million from the Hubbard Broadcasting Company. This web site contains the press release and details. http://www.sjmc.umn.edu/event/gift.html For information about the New Media Institute, go to this site: http://www.sjmc.umn.edu/publ/fact4.html This is the Journalism School's web site: http://www.sjmc.umn.edu/ *******Even though the announcement has a preferred deadline of October 6, 2000, there are six positions to fill and we will look at applications until they are filled. Please contact me if you have questions and I will direct you elsewhere if necessary. I am particularly looking forward to having colleagues from the creative world. However, as the announcement indicates, the range of disciplines and backgrounds is broad. The School is interested in innovators--from whatever discipline. The New Media Initiative is truly interdisciplinary--trying to get at the root of this mysterious thing, "New Media," that we are all trying to understand. Colette Gaiter POSITION ANNOUNCEMENT New Media Initiative School of Journalism and Mass Communication College of Liberal Arts University of Minnesota The University of Minnesota School of Journalism and Mass Communication is pleased to invite applications and nominations for up to four (4) new full-time, nine-month, tenure-track positions, beginning August 27, 2001. Rank will be beginning to advanced Assistant Professor. These positions are an integral part of a major New Media Initiative using legislative funds, private funds and college resources to further strengthen this highly respected school. The goal of the New Media Initiative is to build the nation's preeminent program in communication education, research and practice that will provide students the best possible academic and professional education for entry into diverse careers in the rapidly changing communications industry. The school's facilities have been completely remodeled with state-of-the-art equipment and an Institute for New Media Studies opened in July. All applicants are expected to have academic and/or professional interests and experience in new media. Representative examples of new media specialties include digital graphics and publication design; integrated communications management; digital editing; electronic journalism; digital photojournalism. The specific positions which the University is seeking to fill at this time are the following: Professional Journalism: The University seeks individuals with the talent and commitment to develop a new generation of journalists who are confident in using and stretching the communication potential of new technologies. Visual Communication: The University seeks individuals with the background and commitment to train students in digital message design across multiple media; experience in videography is preferred. Public Relations: The University seeks individuals with a background and commitment to train students in creating written messages across multiple media and to become skilled at integrated communications management. Successful applicants will have a demonstrated promise of scholarly and/or professional distinction; evidence of teaching effectiveness or strong promise of excellence in teaching; and a terminal degree or equivalent qualifications such as an established, national or international professional career. Holders of these positions will be expected to teach undergraduate and graduate professional skills courses, develop strong ties to the professional community, conduct scholarly work and serve on appropriate committees. Significant professional experience is a plus. To apply, send a cover letter describing interest in the position, a current resume or curriculum vita, and letters of evaluation from three references, to be mailed directly to the search committee. Preference will be given to those applications postmarked by October 6, 2000. Click here for articles, university transcripts and bulletins about University's New Media Initiative. Send applications to: Scott Elton Assistant to the Director New Media Initiative Search Committee School of Journalism and Mass Communication University of Minnesota 111 Murphy Hall, 206 Church Street S.E. Minneapolis, MN 55455-0418 The University of Minnesota is committed to the policy that all persons shall have equal access to its programs, facilities, and employment without regard to race, color, creed, religion, national origin, sex, age, marital status, disability, public assistance status, veteran status, or sexual orientation. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:27:33 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetics List Administration Subject: Submission Op MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This message came to the administrative account. - TS --On Monday, November 27, 2000, 1:53 PM -0500 "Lowther, John" wrote: > i am editing an anthology for Potes and Poets. > it is one of 4, geographically bounded anthologies which are scheduled for > something like simultaneous publication. > my region is the u.s., east of the mississippi river. > > WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR > submissions from poets living in that geographical area [east of miss > river in u.s.], preferably poets who have not published extensively, that is > no anthology appearances, chapbooks are OK, a book maybe... but multiple > books no thanks (you folks are doing ok as is). > vispo is very welcome (tho keep in mind that the page space will be > something 5" by 8" or slightly smaller and in black and white only) as are > pieces which work the boundaries of what commonly gets called 'poetry' (even > on the poetics list) > > A SMALL NOTE ABOUT PERSONAL BIASES > i wd love to see work that apeals to me as strongly as do the following; > "Lecture on Nothing" and "Composition as Process" by John Cage > "definitions for mendy" or any of the talk pieces by David Antin > Duchamp's notes collected in The Green Box > any of the panels from Arakawa and Gin's The Mechanism of Meaning > any of the writings for George Brecht published long ago in > Some/thing > hopefully that gives you a sense of the sort of thing that appeals to me... > tho i am sure already that much of what i take for the anthology will be > radically different from anything i've listed > but, works with a conceptual slant appeal as do works which don't at a > glance look much like 'poems' ---- that is i can well imagine publishing > what some might wish to call interviews or essays or manifestos or > philosophy.. my sense of poetry as 'the language art' is very broad > (surprise me) > i expect a lot of lyric in what gets called a post-language vein, i also > expect that i will reject much of it simply for fitting that description (i > know that sounds harsh, but it's true in some ways so hopefully it will > help) > > WHAT TO SEND > 15-20 pages of yr best work > an email address for notification (or an SASE if you dont have email) > work will not be returned and if i decide to use anything you will need to > be able to provide me an electronic version of it (initially i want the > submission on paper) > a bio will be needed for the final product but initially i wd be > interested in a less formal introduction and anything you think i should > know about the poems, tho this is not necessary > > WHEN TO SEND > in the month of january 2001, NOT before and NOT after > > WHERE TO SEND > John Lowther / ANTHOLOGY > 2996 Hermance Drive NE > Atlanta, GA 30319 > > if you have questions about any of this feel free to email me > [jlowther@facstaff.oglethorpe.edu] > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:42:54 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Silliman Subject: Bathology Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed "hey dudes and guyzies -- there's a soap and scent line named after our charles b, that is baudelaire (not bernstein, not yet, but i can see the day...). click on sephora.com, and select "baudelaire" from their "product lines" it's a hoot. i think i'll sponsor a poetry contest using the concept and words from the display page and award will be a bar of baudelaire soap, okay the race is on!" Well, I read the item below Baudelaire on that site's product line list as being "Barthology." Must be those French scents... But it does remind me that one of my strangest publications was an excerpt from Sunset Debris in Wet: the Journal of Gourmet Bathing (edited by Howard Rheingold before he became a web guru). Ron _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:44:49 -0500 Reply-To: Nate and Jane Dorward Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nate and Jane Dorward Subject: Gig #7 (with an offer at the end...) Comments: To: BRITISH-POETS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK, Poetryetc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Apologies for cross-posting. Contributors & subscribers should see copies next week.] T H E G I G # 7 (November 2000) The latest issue of _The Gig_ is now available. It contains poetry by Karen Mac Cormack, Keston Sutherland, Rae Armantrout, Peter Larkin, Dorothy Trujillo Lusk, Catherine Wagner, Christine Stewart, Andrew Brewerton, Steve Benson & Ken Edwards; a letter from J.H. Prynne to Steve McCaffery; and reviews by Nate Dorward & David Kennedy of books by Kenny Goldsmith, Stacy Doris, Tim Davis, Simon Perchik & Brian Kim Stefans. Prynne's letter is a critical commentary on the poetry of _In the American Tree_ and the theoretical and polemical writings associated with _L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E_ magazine. It first appeared in altered form with its addressee given as "Ashley Hayles" in _Language Issue_ #1 ([1991]). McCaffery's (poetic) response, "A Belated Reply to H.J. Prynne", appeared in _The Gig_ 6. _The Gig_ appears three times a year; it publishes new poetry & criticism from the US, Canada, UK & Ireland. Backissues are still available, notably #4/5, a 232pp perfectbound collection of essays on the work of the UK poet Peter Riley by Peter Middleton, Peter Larkin, Mark Morrisson, Nigel Wheale et al. Regular issues are 60-64pp chapbooks: see the website at http://www.geocities.com/ndorward/ for details. * Rates for all issues EXCEPT #4/5: within Canada: single issue: $6 Cdn (institutions $10); 3-issue subscription (or set of 3 backissues): $15 (institutions $30). US subscription (or set of 3 backissues): $13 US (institutions $25 US). Overseas subscription (or 3 backissues): 8 pounds (institutions 16 pounds). For issue #4/5 (The Poetry of Peter Riley): in Canada, $20 Cdn (institutions $40); to US, $15 US (institutions $30 US); overseas: 10 pounds surfacemail, 12 pounds airmail (institutions: 20 pounds). All prices include postage. Make cheques out to "Nate Dorward". Write to: Nate Dorward, 109 Hounslow Ave., Willowdale, Ontario, M2N 2B1, Canada; e-mail: . Copies may be obtained within the UK through Peter Riley (Books), 27 Sturton Street, Cambridge, CB1 2QG; e-mail: . * Separately available is _The Topological Shovel_, a set of four essays by Allen Fisher in workbook format, 52pp. Prices: $12 Cdn; $9.50 US; 6.50 pounds UK/overseas (all prices include postage). * Issue #7 has as always an array of notes about contemporary poetry on the last page (this issue contains notes tracing sources in Prynne, Olson, J. Riley, S. Howe, Watten, Crozier & Celan). Listmembers are welcome to write me (backchannel) with notes; contributors of any notes that I end up using will receive a free issue of the magazine. * Nate & Jane Dorward ndorward@sprint.ca THE GIG magazine: http://www.geocities.com/ndorward/ 109 Hounslow Ave., Willowdale, ON, M2N 2B1, Canada ph: (416) 221 6865 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:29:29 -0500 Reply-To: patrick@proximate.org Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Patrick Herron Subject: Re: baudelaire beauty products In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Two beekeepers discover a bath. They last longer and smell better. They explore the air in the bubbling clear & will the wildflowers to fill our fields with a bumblebee paradise, honey rub-a-dub. With biblical glow of a skin awash in a tub gardeners of honeycombs count their hives, buzzing formulae for bungling landed funds and head-cases like gift soaps more dense than the fat of dead poets they pressed into fragrant deodorizers for the barely buzzing. Patrick Herron -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of Maria Damon Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 11:26 AM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: baudelaire beauty products hey dudes and guyzies -- there's a soap and scent line named after our charles b, that is baudelaire (not bernstein, not yet, but i can see the day...). click on sephora.com, and select "baudelaire" from their "product lines" it's a hoot. i think i'll sponsor a poetry contest using the concept and words from the display page and award will be a bar of baudelaire soap, okay the race is on! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:04:00 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jumper Bloom Subject: Re: baudelaire beauty products Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Am I a dude or a guyzie? Just curious-- LOVE--JUMPER >From: Maria Damon >Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group >To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU >Subject: baudelaire beauty products >Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:25:46 -0600 > >hey dudes and guyzies -- >there's a soap and scent line named after our charles b, that is baudelaire >(not bernstein, not yet, but i can see the day...). click on sephora.com, >and select "baudelaire" from their "product lines" it's a hoot. i think >i'll sponsor a poetry contest using the concept and words from the display >page and award will be a bar of baudelaire soap, okay the race is on! _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:04:57 +0900 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mieko Basan Subject: Hans Arp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm translating some Hans Arp poems for fun and would like to know if = "parapluie" in the line "auf dem meer verwirrte er die schiffe mit dem = woertchen/ parapluie..." is a non-lexical word, as I understand it to = be. I understand it to be something like 'all over the place', or 'with = no real discretion'. In the same poem (no title. first line: weh unser = kaspar ist tot) he uses another word 'heufische' in the line "die = heufische klappern in den glocken..." which I take to be the conjunction = of hay and fish.. so literally something like "the patter of fish in = the grass/hay.." Is this right or am I missing some associations?? If = anone could offer some advice I'd be grateful. Ben Basan ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:57:37 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dickison Subject: Jennifer MOXLEY & Fanny HOWE, Thurs, Nov 30, 7:30 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable POETRY CENTER 2000 The Poetry Center & American Poetry Archives presents An evening with poets JENNIFER MOXLEY & FANNY HOWE Thursday, November 30, 7:30 pm, $5 donation @ the Unitarian Center 1187 Franklin (at Geary) Two of the most discerning lyric voices in contemporary poetry share the stage this Thursday. JENNIFER MOXLEY, born and raised in southern California,now lives at a perfect diagonal across the country in Orono, Main= e. Her books of poetry include the remarkable debut volume _Imagination Verses_ (Tender Buttons, 1996) and, recently, _Wrong Life_ (Equipage, UK, 1999). She edited the magazine _The Impercipient_, and, with Steve Evans, The Impercipient Lecture Series. Ms. Moxley's poetry--"with a nose for small / powers and their logics"--balances rhetorical elegance, philosophic doubt, and a spirited communitarian conviction. =46ANNY HOWE's _Selected Poems_ was recently published in UC Press's NewCalifornia Poetry series. Her latest book of new poetry, _Forged_, is also out, from Post-Apollo Press. ". . . one of our most vital, unclassifia= ble writers. . . . The transparency of her music is deceptive, encompassing the complexities of philosophic and ethical speculation, always testing. . =2E . In that chasm between the ways of the world and our ways of understanding, we remain, as Howe puts it, 'bewildered.' This bewilderment comprises both a 'poetics and an ethics,' a vocation that acknowledges suffering while refusing to succumb to despair. The poem then becomes a bridge to survival." (Ammiel Alcalay, VLS). A Boston native, Ms. Howe lives in Los Angeles and teaches at UC San Diego. This event is supported by Poets & Writers, Inc. through a grant it has received from The James Irvine Foundation. Coming up.... The George Oppen Memorial Lecture in Twentieth Century Poetics SUSAN THACKREY Thursday, December 7, 7:30 pm, $5 donation @ the Unitarian Center 1187 Franklin (at Geary) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D THE UNITARIAN CENTER is located at 1187 Franklin St. at the corner of Geary on-street parking opens up at 7:00 pm from downtown SF take the Geary bus to Franklin A $5 donation is requested. SFSU students and Poetry Center members get in free. The Poetry Center's programs are supported by funding from Grants for the Arts-Hotel Tax Fund of the City of San Francisco, the California Arts Council, the National Endowment for the Arts, Poets & Writers, Inc., and The Fund for Poetry, as well as by the College of Humanities at San =46rancisco State University, and by donations from our members. Join us! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Steve Dickison, Director The Poetry Center & American Poetry Archives San Francisco State University 1600 Holloway Avenue ~ San Francisco CA 94132 ~ vox 415-338-3401 ~ fax 415-338-0966 http://www.sfsu.edu/~newlit ~ ~ ~ L=E2 taltazim h=E2latan, wal=E2kin durn b=EE-llay=E2ly kam=E2 tad=FBwru Don't cling to one state turn with the Nights, as they turn ~Maq=E2mat al-Hamadh=E2ni (tenth century; tr Stefania Pandolfo) ~ ~ ~ Bring all the art and science of the world, and baffle and humble it with one spear of grass. ~Walt Whitman's notebook ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:27:25 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jerrold Shiroma Subject: special web-hosting offer from durationpress.com Comments: To: Jerrold Shiroma MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For the month of December, 2000, durationpress.com will be offering a special package as part of its web-hosting services. For a one-time payment of $200, we are offering 5MB of web-space & domain name registration for two years. There will be no further charges for hosting services. After the initial two years, domain name re-registration will be $24 / year. Please note that this price does not include web-design services. If design services are needed, they will be considered on a case-by-case basis, & may incur an additional fee. For more information, please visit: http://www.durationpress.com/specialoffer.html or respond to this e-mail address. apologies for any cross-posting. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:03:49 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark DuCharme Subject: Re: Hans Arp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed "Parapluie" is the French word for umbrella. Mark DuCharme Mieko Basan wrote: >I'm translating some Hans Arp poems for fun and would like to know if >"parapluie" in the line "auf dem meer verwirrte er die schiffe mit dem >woertchen/ parapluie..." is a non-lexical word, as I understand it to be. >I understand it to be something like 'all over the place', or 'with no real >discretion'. In the same poem (no title. first line: weh unser kaspar ist >tot) he uses another word 'heufische' in the line "die heufische klappern >in den glocken..." which I take to be the conjunction of hay and fish.. so >literally something like "the patter of fish in the grass/hay.." Is this >right or am I missing some associations?? If anone could offer some advice >I'd be grateful. > >Ben Basan _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:05:00 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Taylor Brady Subject: Re: Hans Arp Comments: cc: amateras@tkk.att.ne.jp In-Reply-To: <002301c05934$31c5ec40$1eee4ca5@computer> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Unless I've really forgotten all my high school French, I believe Arp has shifted languages here to send his umbrella across the Rhine. > From: Mieko Basan > Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group > Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:04:57 +0900 > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Hans Arp > > I'm translating some Hans Arp poems for fun and would like to know if > "parapluie" in the line "auf dem meer verwirrte er die schiffe mit dem > woertchen/ parapluie..." is a non-lexical word, as I understand it to be. I > understand it to be something like 'all over the place', or 'with no real > discretion'. In the same poem (no title. first line: weh unser kaspar ist > tot) he uses another word 'heufische' in the line "die heufische klappern in > den glocken..." which I take to be the conjunction of hay and fish.. so > literally something like "the patter of fish in the grass/hay.." Is this > right or am I missing some associations?? If anone could offer some advice > I'd be grateful. > > Ben Basan ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:17:59 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: SPOON-ANN: Conference - The Future of Form: Reading On & Off the Page (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 02:51:56 -0500 From: Damian Judge Rollison To: spoon-announcements@lists.village.virginia.edu Cc: James Parr Subject: SPOON-ANN: Conference - The Future of Form: Reading On & Off the Page [Spoon-Announcements is a moderated list for distributing info of wide enough interest without cross-posting. To unsub, send the message "unsubscribe spoon-announcements" to majordomo@lists.village.virginia.edu] THE FUTURE OF FORM: READING ON AND OFF THE PAGE The University of Virginia's English Graduate Conference 2001 Charlottesville, Virginia Featuring keynote speakers John Hollander (Yale) and Marjorie Perloff (Stanford) As we enter a new century of literary study, we may find ourselves asking what Gauguin asked 100 years ago: "Where do we come from? What are we? Where are we going?" Shifts in literary methodology over the last thirty years have been edifying and provocative, even as the pace of these changes has been dizzying. New historicism, cultural studies, feminist studies, postcolonial theories, queer studies, identity studies -- these and other movements have vastly improved our understanding of literature in context. While these movements sought to distinguish themselves from New Critical assumptions and values, many of their achievements came not through a denial of formalist techniques, but through new and innovative ways of "reading," both on and off the page -- ways of reading which focused upon the critical relationship between the literary object and its context. The theme of the 2001 English Graduate Conference at the University of Virginia is designed to provoke discussion of these issues. We are soliciting papers that will further a productive dialogue on the future of form (and its complex history) through discussions of literary, cultural, and theoretical texts. The conference will be held March 2 and 3, 2001. We are happy to announce two keynote speakers: John Hollander of Yale, the well-known critic and poet who has written authoritatively on the history of poetic form and its 20th-century transformations; and Marjorie Perloff of Stanford, arguably our most important critic of modern and postmodern poetry. (The subtitle of our conference pays homage to her _Poetry On and Off the Page_ [1998].) Two related events will be of interest: Mr. Hollander will read his own poetry on the evening of Friday, March 2; and on Saturday, March 3, Ms. Perloff and Mr. Hollander will join in a panel discussion with UVA professors Stephen Cushman and Michael Levenson. Please send one-page abstracts by January 1 to both djr4r@virginia.edu and jfp3r@virginia.edu. We also welcome panel proposals; these should include a cover sheet that discusses the theme of the panel and abstracts for each of the papers. Possible topics include: The Future of Form: New Directions in Formal Practice Poetics in a New Century Emergent Genres and Form: Film, Video, Music, Performance Subversive Forms: Race, Gender, Writing Bodily Formations Queer Forms Close Reading in the Classroom Reading Audience: Stage, Print, Beyond Novel Forms The Formation(s) of Modernity Formal Self-Fashioning Humanities Computing: Reforming the Text The End(s) of Prosody Damian Rollison Department of English/ Institute for Advanced Technology in the Humanities University of Virginia djr4r@virginia.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:34:39 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: J Gallaher Organization: University of Central Arkansas Subject: Re: Hans Arp and Bathology In-Reply-To: <002301c05934$31c5ec40$1eee4ca5@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ben Basan writes: I'm translating some Hans Arp poems for fun and would like to know if "parapluie" in the line "auf dem meer verwirrte er die schiffe mit dem woertchen/ parapluie..." is a non-lexical word, as I understand it to be. And Ron Silliman writes: "hey dudes and guyzies -- there's a soap and scent line named after our charles b, that is baudelaire (not bernstein, not yet, but i can see the day...). click on sephora.com, and select "baudelaire" from their "product lines" So the obvious connection is this: What Arp was really meaning by "parapluie" would have to be a ref to the Baudelaire body spray, and his loss of his favorite umbrella . . . as well as his discomfort with being but a sidebar to "that stinky Frenchie". Mit dem woertchen, indeed. As always, glad to clear things up. JGallaher J Gallaher Metaphors Be With You . . . ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:00:53 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetics List Administration Subject: online panel on electronic lit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Came this to the administrative account. -- TS --On Tuesday, November 28, 2000, 11:21 AM -0800 "Robert Kendall" wrote: > [apologies for cross-posting] > > CREATING ELECTRONIC LITERATURE > > (A LinguaMOO Event hosted by Tambralyn Suhler) > > FEATURING A DISCUSSION PANEL OF ELECTRONIC AUTHORS > > =93SEASONS=94 > (Hypertext Poetry) > by: Robert Kendall > http://www.eastgate.com/Seasons > > TENURE DISORDER=94 > (An article written in html) > by: Jane Lasarenko > http://corax.cwrl.utexas.edu/cac/online/00/lasarenko/tenurehome.h > tm > > =93STAINED WORD WINDOWS=94 > (A piece of hypertext poetry) > by: Deena Larsen > http://www.wordcircuits.com/gallery/stained > > =93SEXING THE CUT=94 > (An essay in MOO flash) > by: Jane Love > http://www.nwe.ufl.edu/~love/sexing.html > > WHEN: November 29, 2000 > Wednesday Night > 7:00PM =96 9:00PM (CDT) > > WHERE: http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 > > HOW: Log in (you can attend as a guest) > Type: @go auditorium in text screen at bottom left > > FOR MORE INFORMATION: Contact Tambralyn at: > tambralyn@hotmail.com > > PLEASE VIEW WORK BEFORE THE EVENT > > COME WITH QUESTIONS FOR THE AUTHORS > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Robert Kendall > E-Mail: kendall@wordcircuits.com > Home Page: http://www.wordcircuits.com/kendall > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Word Circuits (Hypertext/Cybertext Poetry and Fiction): > http://www.wordcircuits.com > Electronic Literature Directory > http://directory.eliterature.org > On-Line Class in Hypertext Poetry and Fiction (The New School): > http://www.wordcircuits.com/kendall/htclass.htm > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:10:52 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Baptiste Chirot Subject: Re: Hans Arp In-Reply-To: <002301c05934$31c5ec40$1eee4ca5@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "parapluie" in french means "umbrella" you must remember, hans arp was fluent in both french and german as with heads, using two languages may be better than one --david baptiste chirot anthony quinn: "I speak seven languages and none of them well." On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Mieko Basan wrote: > I'm translating some Hans Arp poems for fun and would like to know if "parapluie" in the line "auf dem meer verwirrte er die schiffe mit dem woertchen/ parapluie..." is a non-lexical word, as I understand it to be. I understand it to be something like 'all over the place', or 'with no real discretion'. In the same poem (no title. first line: weh unser kaspar ist tot) he uses another word 'heufische' in the line "die heufische klappern in den glocken..." which I take to be the conjunction of hay and fish.. so literally something like "the patter of fish in the grass/hay.." Is this right or am I missing some associations?? If anone could offer some advice I'd be grateful. > > Ben Basan > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:03:32 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Adeena Karasick Subject: Hans Arp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "parapluie" translates as "umbrella" in French cheers, Adeena ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:17:08 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Brent Cunningham Subject: Open Invitation: SPD Open House, Saturday, Dec.2nd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you will be near Berkeley, California on December 2, please come to the biannual *Small Press Distribution Open House * Get your holiday shopping done early at the country's only exclusively literary book distributor, Saturday, December 2nd * Noon to 4pm *BROWSE in our stacks among more than 8,000 books (at a 20% to 50% discount) *CONSUME food & drink from Bay Area culinary outlets, and *LISTEN to readings by Bay Area writers (readings begin at 2PM) George Albon, Lyn Hejinian, Dan Leone, Gail Mitchell, Sianne Ngai The event takes place at Small Press Distribution's warehouse in Berkeley 1341 7th St., off Gilman Directions: Take the Gilman exit from Interstate 80. Go east (away from the Bay) on Gilman, then right on 7th Street. SPD will be on your left within the first block, before you hit Camelia. THE EVENT IS FREE AND OPEN TO ALL. {wheelchair accessible} SPD, founded in Berkeley in 1969, is a non-profit literary arts organization whose mission is to nurture an environment in which the literary arts can thrive. SPD accomplishes this mission by providing book wholesaling services to nearly 500 small, independent literary presses. For more info check out www.spdbooks.org or call (510)524-1668, ext. 0 ------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail has been sent to you courtesy of OperaMail, as a free service from Opera Software, makers of the award-winning Web Browser, Opera. 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At 10:04 PM -0500 11/27/00, Jumper Bloom wrote: >Am I a dude or a guyzie? > >Just curious-- > >LOVE--JUMPER > > >>From: Maria Damon >>Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group >>To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU >>Subject: baudelaire beauty products >>Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:25:46 -0600 >> >>hey dudes and guyzies -- >>there's a soap and scent line named after our charles b, that is baudelaire >>(not bernstein, not yet, but i can see the day...). click on sephora.com, >>and select "baudelaire" from their "product lines" it's a hoot. i think >>i'll sponsor a poetry contest using the concept and words from the display >>page and award will be a bar of baudelaire soap, okay the race is on! > >_______________________________________________________________________________ >______ >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:31:33 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Robert E. McDonough" Subject: Re: Hans Arp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not non-lexical but French, in which language it means "umbrella." But my German is far too weak for me to know whether that makes any sense or even interesting nonsense. Bob McDonough -----Original Message----- From: Mieko Basan To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 10:48 AM Subject: Hans Arp I'm translating some Hans Arp poems for fun and would like to know if "parapluie" in the line "auf dem meer verwirrte er die schiffe mit dem woertchen/ parapluie..." is a non-lexical word, as I understand it to be. I understand it to be something like 'all over the place', or 'with no real discretion'. In the same poem (no title. first line: weh unser kaspar ist tot) he uses another word 'heufische' in the line "die heufische klappern in den glocken..." which I take to be the conjunction of hay and fish.. so literally something like "the patter of fish in the grass/hay.." Is this right or am I missing some associations?? If anone could offer some advice I'd be grateful. Ben Basan ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:59:54 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: Hans Arp In-Reply-To: <002301c05934$31c5ec40$1eee4ca5@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" i thought parapluie meant umbrella. At 9:04 PM +0900 11/28/00, Mieko Basan wrote: >I'm translating some Hans Arp poems for fun and would like to know if >"parapluie" in the line "auf dem meer verwirrte er die schiffe mit dem >woertchen/ parapluie..." is a non-lexical word, as I understand it to be. >I understand it to be something like 'all over the place', or 'with no >real discretion'. In the same poem (no title. first line: weh unser >kaspar ist tot) he uses another word 'heufische' in the line "die >heufische klappern in den glocken..." which I take to be the conjunction >of hay and fish.. so literally something like "the patter of fish in the >grass/hay.." Is this right or am I missing some associations?? If anone >could offer some advice I'd be grateful. > >Ben Basan ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:27:14 +0900 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mieko Basan Subject: Thank you MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to those who replied to my post on Hans Arp. Since I don't speak = French and am translating between locations and studying Japanese I = would have left it as is without knowing what it was! 'Heufische' might = be like 'sea monkeys in English, by the way. Unfortunately the book I'm = using doesn't come with notes (a Reclam I picked up in Cologne), so I = might be back with some more questions.=20 Ben Basan ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:18:49 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Sam Stark Subject: Re: Hans Arp In-Reply-To: <002301c05934$31c5ec40$1eee4ca5@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No "parapluie" is French for "umbrella," and "heufisch" is a pun for "haifisch"-- shark. -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of Mieko Basan Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 7:05 AM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Hans Arp I'm translating some Hans Arp poems for fun and would like to know if "parapluie" in the line "auf dem meer verwirrte er die schiffe mit dem woertchen/ parapluie..." is a non-lexical word, as I understand it to be. I understand it to be something like 'all over the place', or 'with no real discretion'. In the same poem (no title. first line: weh unser kaspar ist tot) he uses another word 'heufische' in the line "die heufische klappern in den glocken..." which I take to be the conjunction of hay and fish.. so literally something like "the patter of fish in the grass/hay.." Is this right or am I missing some associations?? If anone could offer some advice I'd be grateful. Ben Basan ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:46:01 +0900 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mieko Basan Subject: Re; Rothenberg's translation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Mr. Hollo for the translation of these lines. The refernces to = fish falling from the sky in yesterdays posts left me in the ocean with = kaspar. I'm interested in the 'hay-fish' in the translation you sent = (from J. Rothenberg?) and one of the suggestions yesterday that they are = like seamonkeys. =20 Anyway, I'd like to check out Rothenberg's translations but I simply = can't afford or get hold of them so my own translations will have to do. = Not only that I'm having a hell of a good time doing this. Ben Basan ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:00:58 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Pierre Joris Subject: Re: Hans Arp In-Reply-To: <002301c05934$31c5ec40$1eee4ca5@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "I'm translating some Hans Arp poems for fun and would like to know if "parapluie" in the line "auf dem meer verwirrte er die schiffe mit dem woertchen/ parapluie..." is a non-lexical word, as I understand it to be. I understand it to be something like 'all over the place', or 'with no real discretion'." The word "parapluie" is the French word for umbrella In the same poem (no title. first line: weh unser kaspar ist tot) he uses another word 'heufische' in the line "die heufische klappern in den glocken..." which I take to be the conjunction of hay and fish.. so literally something like "the patter of fish in the grass/hay.." Is this right or am I missing some associations?? If anone could offer some advice I'd be grateful. yes, seems to me it's a pun on the homophonic word "häufig” which means frequent Pierre ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:50:28 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: fwd cfp : encyclopedia of marches and demonstrations In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >X-From_: mary_young@berea.edu Tue Nov 28 10:39 CST 2000 >X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.31.00.5 >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:52:55 -0500 >From: >To: >Subject: CALL FOR CONTRIBUTORS > > PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL FACULTY MEMBERS AND GRADUATE STUDENTS > > We are looking for contributors for the 2000 page, 2 volume, > illustrated Encyclopedia of Marches and Demonstrations, to be > published by ABC-CLIO in the fall of 2003. Comprehensive in scope, > and written by top scholars in the field, the Encyclopedia will be the > definitive reference work in the field for years to come. > > Articles run between 2 and 10 manuscript pages in length, depending on > subject. All entries will be signed and all writers will be listed on > the contributor page. The deadlines for materials range from 2/2001 - > 12/2001. If you cannot contribute, perhaps you can forward names and > email addresses of scholars (including graduate students) who might be > interested. Contact us at: mary_young@berea.edu or > gchorne@email.unc.edu > > Sincerely, > > Mary Young > mary_young@berea.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:10:08 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maureen McLane Subject: Re: Hans Arp In-Reply-To: <002301c05934$31c5ec40$1eee4ca5@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My understanding is that "parapluie" means UMBRELLA. Hope this is helpful! -- Maureen ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:31:47 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Marcella Durand Subject: Hans Arp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Parapluie means umbrella in French... M > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:04:57 +0900 > From: Mieko Basan > Subject: Hans Arp > > I'm translating some Hans Arp poems for fun and would like to know if = > "parapluie" in the line "auf dem meer verwirrte er die schiffe mit dem = > woertchen/ parapluie..." is a non-lexical word, as I understand it to = > be. I understand it to be something like 'all over the place', or 'with = > no real discretion'. In the same poem (no title. first line: weh unser = > kaspar ist tot) he uses another word 'heufische' in the line "die = > heufische klappern in den glocken..." which I take to be the conjunction = > of hay and fish.. so literally something like "the patter of fish in = > the grass/hay.." Is this right or am I missing some associations?? If = > anone could offer some advice I'd be grateful. > > Ben Basan > > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:23:25 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: chris stroffolino Subject: Re: baudelaire beauty products MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit a guyzie who leaks flutie Jumper Bloom wrote: > Am I a dude or a guyzie? > > Just curious-- > > LOVE--JUMPER > > >From: Maria Damon > >Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group > >To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU > >Subject: baudelaire beauty products > >Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:25:46 -0600 > > > >hey dudes and guyzies -- > >there's a soap and scent line named after our charles b, that is baudelaire > >(not bernstein, not yet, but i can see the day...). click on sephora.com, > >and select "baudelaire" from their "product lines" it's a hoot. i think > >i'll sponsor a poetry contest using the concept and words from the display > >page and award will be a bar of baudelaire soap, okay the race is on! > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:15:10 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Broder, Michael" Subject: World AIDS Day Reading--The Ear Inn--Dec 2, 2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" World AIDS Day Reading Saturday, December 2, 2000, at 3:00 PM The Ear Inn 326 Spring Street New York City (READERS LISTED IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER) Star Black, Michael Broder, Alfred Corn, Peter Covino, Patrick Donnelly, Ron Drummond, Lisa Freedman, Jason Schneiderman, and Richard Tayson Since 1989, December 1 has been observed internationally as World AIDS Day, a day to open channels of communication, strengthen the exchange of information and experience, and forge a spirit of social tolerance. The Ear Inn reading series takes place on Saturdays, so we are observing World AIDS Day on December 2. This is our first World AIDS Day reading. We expect this to be the start of an annual tradition at the Ear Inn. For additional information contact Michael Broder mbroder@whcom.com (212) 802-1752 (work) (212) 246-5074 (home) If you are coming to the Ear Inn by subway, the closest trains are the 1-9 to Canal Street @ Varick, the A to Canal Street @ Sixth Ave, or the C-E to Spring Street@ Sixth Ave. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:32:49 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: chris stroffolino Subject: December events involving NYC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Stroffolino will be partaking in a tribute to Anne Sexton at The Knitting Factory on December 7th in the form of the rock band that she put together in the late 70s (probably a secret influence on PAtti Smith if not Smythe) we won't play very long, but they're be other stuff involved.... vocalist will be Bestsy Andrews (who will be over her cold by then) guitar will be Shawn Aron Vandor, of rockband "Man & Wife," (also a poet; editor of Poetry New York) and his drummer Ezra whose last name I forget it's not Pound and on flute will be Sasha Bell of Lady Bug Transistor and Essex Green I will be on keyboards the event is 7-9Pm I don't knw if it costs, ask the PSA people like Matt Rohrer -------- Also I WILL be reading at the Ear Inn, but on December 16th rather than on December 9th......(ignore listing below ---- And, finally (in terms of the "when it rains it pours" dept.) will be reading at KGB on December 11th---- at 730..... ------- feel free to backchannel mne for more info....like streets, etc.... chris "Broder, Michael" wrote: > > The Ear Inn Readings > > Saturdays at 3:00 > > 326 Spring Street, west of Greenwich > > New York City > > > > November 11 > > Catherine Barnett, Katherine Greider, Patrick Martin, Amanda Schaffer > > > > November 18 > > Mark Bibbins, Michael Heller, Herbert Scott > > > > November 25 > > Thanksgiving--No Reading > > > > December 2 > > World AIDS Day Reading > Alfred Corn, Star Black, Richard Tayson, and others > > > December 9 > > John Schertzer, Richard Silberg, Chris Stroffolino, Max Winter > > > > December 16 > > Brenda Shaughnessy, Mark Wunderlich, TBA > > > > December 23 > > Christmas Break--No Reading > > > > December 30 > > New Year's Break--No Reading > > > > The Ear Inn Readings > > > > Martha Rhodes, Director > > > > Michael Broder, Curator > > > > Patrick Donnelly, Lisa Freedman, Kathleen E. Krause, Co-Curators > > > > For additional information contact Michael Broder (212) 802-1752 > > > > The Ear Inn is an historic pub located at 326 Spring Street, west of > > Greenwich, in Manhattan. There has been a reading series in this space > > for > > decades. > > > > The Ear is one block north of Canal Street, a couple blocks west of > > Hudson. > > The closest trains are the 1-9 to Canal Street @ Varick, the A to Canal > > Street @ Sixth Ave, or the C-E to Spring Street@ Sixth Ave. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:15:28 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetics List Administration Subject: Shaw and Doris Reading in New York MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This message came to the administrative account. -- Umbrella --On Wednesday, November 29, 2000, 10:53 AM -0500 "Lytle Shaw" wrote: > > Saturday, December 2nd > > 4pm > > Double Happiness is located at 173 Mott Street, > just south of Broome. > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:12:32 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rachel Blau DuPlessis Subject: Re: Hans Arp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Parapluie is the French word for umbrella (as I'm sure more people than me will mention); I am not offering any advice on the German. Rachel Blau DuPlessis Mieko Basan wrote: > I'm translating some Hans Arp poems for fun and would like to know if "parapluie" in the line "auf dem meer verwirrte er die schiffe mit dem woertchen/ parapluie..." is a non-lexical word, as I understand it to be. I understand it to be something like 'all over the place', or 'with no real discretion'. In the same poem (no title. first line: weh unser kaspar ist tot) he uses another word 'heufische' in the line "die heufische klappern in den glocken..." which I take to be the conjunction of hay and fish.. so literally something like "the patter of fish in the grass/hay.." Is this right or am I missing some associations?? If anone could offer some advice I'd be grateful. > > Ben Basan ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:44:20 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: AERIALEDGE@AOL.COM Subject: New @ Bridge Street, Hejinian essays from U Cal, Agamben, Collected Olson for Cheap, &&& MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit New Hejinian essays & much else. Poetics list members receive a 10% discount & free shipping on orders of $30 or more. Ordering & discount information at the end of the list. Bridge Street is not affiliated with Barnes & Chernobyl or Boreders, even a little. 1. _Means without End: Notes on Politics_, Giorgio Agamben, Minnesota, $17.95. Includes an excellent discussion of Debord's _Commentaries on the Society of the Spectacle_. 2. _The Sonnets_, Ted Berrigan, intro & notes by Alice Notley, Penguin, $16. 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Bridge Street Books, 2814 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Washington, DC 20007. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:31:42 EST Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nuyopoman@AOL.COM Subject: Re: POETICS Digest - 27 Nov 2000 to 28 Nov 2000 (#2000-190) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/29/00 12:39:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, LISTSERV@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU writes: << "parapluie" >> = Bumbershoot (Fr>E) Bob Bob Holman * 173 Duane St #2 NY NY 10013 * 212-334-6414 Fax: 6415 holman@bard.edu * nuyopoman@aol.com * poetry.about.com poetry.guide@about.com * www.worldofpoetry.org bholman@washingtonsquarearts.com * www.peoplespoetry.org ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 00:53:01 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: lee ann brown Subject: Lee Ann Brown contact info Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dear Poetics I finally have a new home but just wanted y'all to know where to find me: LA@tenderbuttons.net *** *** *** ** * * * * (718) 782-8443 new home phone * * * * * ** * * * * ***** My MAILING Address is the SAME: (keep those pamphlets coming) Lee Ann Brown PO Box 13, Cooper Station NYC 10276 *** *** *** ** * * * * ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 12:48:58 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: MAYHEW Subject: Baudelaire beauty products MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Actually this is quite appropriate since Baudelaire wrote an "Eloge du maquillage"--a praise of artificiality and self-disclosing artifice against the aesthetic ideal of the "natural" La femme est bien dans son droit, et meme elle accomplit une espece de devoir en s'appliquant a paraitre magique et surnaturelle; il faut qu'elle etonne et qu'elle charme; idole, elle doit se dorer pour etre adoree. Elle doit donc emprunter a tous les arts les moyens de s'elever au-dessus de la nature pour mieux subjuguer les coeurs et frapper les esprits. Jonathan Mayhew jmayhew@ukans.edu _____________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:46:54 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Balestrieri, Peter" Subject: Entry to Baudelaire Soap Contest Comments: To: "damon001@TC.UMN.EDU" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Maria, Here's my first try: The United States and Canada began when Baudelaire discovered a smell. Countries look a little more, are more, last a bit, and smell a lot. So if you've been exploring the world, looking for a truly natural and authentic smell, you're Baudelaire. Best, Pete ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 01:30:54 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: this describes the freedom of poetics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII - you can do anything want to do are free to b whomever you want to to become that person you can anything you want on this planet can say or anything! on this you can do anything here> you want! here here> or not as your desires! right now! on this planet! become that very are free to you want t here> become :you can do < here> anything you want to here> do::on this planet you do anything you your imperative names on this planet you say or be anything! assertion with i deogrammar _ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:31:42 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rick Snyder Subject: Zinc Bar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reading at the Zinc Bar Ethan Fugate & Rick Snyder Sunday, Dec. 3 6:37 pm $3 90 W. 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FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:15:06 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Funkhouser, Chris" Subject: Kamau Brathwaite festival at NYU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Dear Poetics: Tim Reiss has curated this upcoming event--I thought some of you'd be interested in knowing that it is happening (next week): The Department of Comparative Literature, the Reed Foundation, the Humanities Council, the Center for Africana Studies & Institute for African American Affairs, the College of Arts and Sciences, the Faculty of Arts and Sciences, the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, the Center for Latin American and Caribbean Studies, the Program in Creative Writing present a colloquium: "Between Caliban and Sycorax: Kamau Brathwaite and Caribbean Culture." Hemmerdinger Hall, Main Building, 100 Washington Square East, New York University 5.30-9.00 pm, Friday, December 8th 9.00am-6.00pm, Saturday December-9th 2000 Friday, Dec. 8th: 5.30pm-8.00pm: 5.30: Dick Foley, Dean, Faculty of Arts & Sciences, NYU: welcome 5.45: Zweli-Bansi Sibiya 6.00: Tim Reiss: introductory remarks 6.15: Margaret Gill: talk/reading 6.55: Dale Byam: performance 8.00: end Saturday, Dec. 9th: 9.00am-6.00pm: 9.00am-10.15am: "Counter Histories/Countering History". Hilary Beckles (UWI Mona, Chair); Mervyn Alleyne (UWI Mona), Patricia Penn Hilden (UC Berkeley); Tony Phillips (UWI Cave Hill) 10.45am-12.00pm: "Righting the Imaginary, Unmasking Cultures". Gordon Rohlehr (UWI St. Augustine, Chair); Rhonda Cobham (Amherst College); Mervyn Morris (UWI Mona); Elaine Savory (Barbados/New School) 12.15pm-1.45pm: Break for lunch. 1.45pm-3.00pm: Panel debate on publishing. Kassahun Checole (Africa World Press, Trenton & Asmara); Chris Funkhouser (We Press); Ian Randle (Ian Randle Publishers, Kingston), Lasana Sekou (The House of Nehesi, St. Martin); Helen Tartar and Santhosh Daniel (Stanford UP). These panels will be relatively informal, involving much discussion from the floor. Especially in the last case, since several present are editing and/or publishing journals: Ngugi (Mutiiri), Silvio Torres-Saillant (Punto 7), Manthia Diawara (Black Renaissance/Renaissance noire), Jacqueline Bishop (Calabash). 3.15pm-3.40pm: Lasana Sekou: reading 3.40pm-4.00pm: Pam Mordecai: reading 4.00pm-5.00pm: Kamau Brathwaite: reading 5.00pm-5.15pm: Gabby: calypso performance 5.15pm-6.00pm: presentations and book-signing ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:33:09 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: 1-7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII - 1 Nov 30 To: Cyb Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: The Poetry Project Subject: Announcements Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable This week and next week at the Poetry Project: Friday, December 1st at 10:30 pm A NIGHT OF TABOOS, PART III: THE "O" READING The notorious "Taboo" series continues with The "O" Reading, where poets will interpret the vowel "o" in an erotic manner, followed by a quickie "o"-pen mike. Featured readers include: Cynthia Andrews, Jaclyn Piudik, Richard Loranger, Hal Sirowitz, Rachel Levitsky, Thaddeus Rutkowski, and others. A gift certificate to Toys in Babeland will be given away for the best "o"-pen mike reading. Monday, November 6th at 8 pm OPEN MIKE, sign up at 7:30 pm, reading starts at 8 pm. Wednesday, December 6th at 8 pm JAIME MANRIQUE AND EILEEN MYLES The Washington Post Book World calls Jaime Manrique "a p=EDcaro prone to shoc= k his readers by testing the moral standards of his time." And Kennedy Fraser says, "Manrique=B9s voice is wise, brave, and wholly original." An accomplished poet and prose writer, Mr. Manrique is the author of the novel= s Eminent Maricones: Arenas, Lorca, Puig, and Me; Twilight at the Equator; Latin Moon in Manhattan; and Colombian Gold, as well as a wide range of poetry and short story collections. He=B9s currently leading a workshop at th= e Poetry Project entitled "The Romantic Tradition." Eileen Myles=8Bpoet, prose writer, and ex=ADpresidential candidate=8Bis the autho= r of the forthcoming novel Cool for You (Soft Skull Press) as well as Not Me and Chelsea Girls. Of Ms. Myles=B9 writing in Cool for You Jonathan Lethem says, "She cruises her own life from this platform of language=8Bvernacular, glinting, gesturing=8Bmaking art of everything she brings aboard." And J.T. Leroy says, "The way roughness and humor are wrapped in a dangerous excitin= g tale=8Ba tale that pulls at my heart and enthralls my psyche=8Bis a stunning feat that makes Cool For You worthy of much study and massive enjoyment." Ms. Myles boldly brought poetry and politics together in 1992 when she ran for President of the United States as an "openly female" write-in candidate in 28 states. She is a regular contributor to Art in America, Paper, The Nation, Nest, The Village Voice and The Stranger, and has appeared on MTV. She curates an innovative series of readings and performances called "Scout= " at Threadwaxing Space in New York City. Friday, December 8th at 7:00 pm REAL-TIME VERSE A Writing Workshop taught by Ed Sanders A special workshop on the researching and creating of poetry that seeks to describe aspects of historical reality. How to =8Ctranspose=B9 the throbbing facts of the time-track into line breaks, sequences of lines and images, an= d news that stays news. An in-class writing exercise will be conducted. This special workshop has been made possible by a generous grant from the Jerome Foundation. Admission to the workshop is $7, $4 for students and seniors, and $3 for Poetry Project members. Friday, December 8th at 10:30 pm E-BOOK NIGHT WITH EDWIN TORRES AND RICHARD PEARSE A reading to celebrate the online publication of Edwin Torres=B9 and Richard Pearse=B9s latest e-books. Edwin Torres is a "bilingual" poet, rooted in the languages of both sight and sound. Mingling the textures of poetry with vocal and physical improvisation, sound-elements, and visual theater, his live performances create organic landscapes that exist beyond language. His new collection of poetry, Onamalingua: Noise, Songs & Poetry, will be released as an e-book with MP3 files and Real Video. Richard Pearse has had many books of poems published, including Come Back Vanishing (Linear Arts Books), and a chapbook, Landscape of Skin (Audit Press). Some two dozen magazines have published his poems and stories, including The Paris Review, New York Quarterly, Prairie Schooner and Fiction. In 1996 he won fifth priz= e in the Chester H. Jones National Competition. His e-book is called Private Drives. Unless otherwise noted, admission to all events is $7, $4 for students and seniors, and $3 for Poetry Project members. Schedule is subject to change. The Poetry Project is located in St. Mark's Church at the corner of 2nd Avenue and 10th Street in Manhattan. The Poetry Project is wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. Please call (212) 674-0910 for more information or visit our Web site at http://www.poetryproject.com. * * * What better way to celebrate New Year's Day than to volunteer at the Poetry Project's 27th Annual New Year's Marathon Reading?! Imagine yourself sellin= g books... selling food... checking in readers... setting up chairs... stacking chairs... all the while doing great service to your local poetry community! If you are interested, reply to this email with your name and phone number or email address, and we'll get in touch to schedule you in. * * *=20 =20 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:07:07 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: Entry to Baudelaire Soap Contest Comments: To: "Balestrieri, Peter" In-Reply-To: <4D721A1E0197D311B1C40008C791AA3B01842D7B@mvex05.intuit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" so far there are only 2 entries folks...md At 2:46 PM -0800 11/29/00, Balestrieri, Peter wrote: >Hi Maria, > >Here's my first try: > > >The United States and Canada began when Baudelaire discovered a smell. >Countries look a little more, are more, last a bit, and smell a lot. So if >you've been exploring the world, looking for a truly natural and authentic >smell, you're Baudelaire. > > >Best, > >Pete ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:24:59 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Ednie Subject: Re: Bathology Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Don't forget "Savon" (Soap) by Francis Ponge. "... soap and I will show them what we can do..." ---------- >From: Ron Silliman >To: POETICS@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU >Subject: Bathology >Date: Tue, Nov 28, 2000, 10:42 AM > >"hey dudes and guyzies -- >there's a soap and scent line named after our charles b, that is baudelaire >(not bernstein, not yet, but i can see the day...). click on sephora.com, >and select "baudelaire" from their "product lines" it's a hoot. i think >i'll sponsor a poetry contest using the concept and words from the display >page and award will be a bar of baudelaire soap, okay the race is on!" > >Well, I read the item below Baudelaire on that site's product line list as >being "Barthology." Must be those French scents... > >But it does remind me that one of my strangest publications was an excerpt >from Sunset Debris in Wet: the Journal of Gourmet Bathing (edited by Howard >Rheingold before he became a web guru). > >Ron > >___________________________________________________________________________ __________ > >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:42:41 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: Bathology Comments: cc: tottels@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" so, ron, howzabout a sumbission i mean submission? At 10:42 AM -0500 11/28/00, Ron Silliman wrote: >"hey dudes and guyzies -- >there's a soap and scent line named after our charles b, that is baudelaire >(not bernstein, not yet, but i can see the day...). click on sephora.com, >and select "baudelaire" from their "product lines" it's a hoot. i think >i'll sponsor a poetry contest using the concept and words from the display >page and award will be a bar of baudelaire soap, okay the race is on!" > >Well, I read the item below Baudelaire on that site's product line list as >being "Barthology." Must be those French scents... > >But it does remind me that one of my strangest publications was an excerpt >from Sunset Debris in Wet: the Journal of Gourmet Bathing (edited by Howard >Rheingold before he became a web guru). > >Ron > >_______________________________________________________________________________ >______ >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:56:27 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Nielsen, Aldon" Subject: W. sez Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" from THE SAYINGS OF W.: HEIR PREUMPTIVE "Vote like a butterfly, sting like Legree." " Subjects hinder talk." -- Emily Dickinson Aldon Lynn Nielsen Fletcher Jones Chair of Literature and Writing Loyola Marymount University 7900 Loyola Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90045-8215 (310) 338-3078 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:27:00 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Brennan, Brian" Subject: Re: Hans Arp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" parapluie! arp bless you. I've heard a rumor about umbrella translations. Wooden sticks that blossom into black silk flowers, or men in long coats exclaiming, "Damnit it's too small, I'm getting wet!" or have a banana. Or maybe that's just a fraudian slip. You know someone will email and suggest that I really meant freudian, so let me say this right now Brian