debate on Frost
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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:10:39 -0500 (EST)
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A&B
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Ali the poem is designed to offer us the choice
of having a wall to distinguish us from others;
or not having any boundaries, an idea he plays
with
B
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Chris P. the wall-supporting act is a barbaric practice
Kirsten the speaker clearly questions the need for the
wall
Jennifer B. walls are sometimes bad but what's really bad
is that the neighbor won't examine his language
Justin people love the wall to escape nature
Dan he frowns on the annual ritual
Anthony he is quite critical of the rural tradition
Bryan the neighbor is a droning worker, disliked by F
Robert sometimes one needs a wall, but that's the
exception
P.T. the communication between the neighbors is
bad, flawed; the wall is not particularly helpful
in convening them
Sean the writing is free and without walls--thus
helping prove F's undermining the wall
A
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Dan R. it's not a modernist poem & we would be mistaken
to think Frost wants the wall down; take the
wall away & the relationship will be changed
Sara R. why does Frost go back again and again if he
hates it?
Al he goes back because it's an aesthetic ritual
for him; without the wall we would lose the
traditional aesthetic, the well-marked-off;
he hates modernism, preferring tennis w/ a net
Joan B is too strongly against the wall; A leaves
room for ambiguity (Frost doesn't just dislike
the wall; it has possibilities)
Lauryl Speaker knows wall doesn't naturally want to
stay in place--but for all its artifice it does
bring me closer together.
Scott Ideally the wall should go; but it's not an ideal
world
Natalie we need our space & individuality
Ben he knows what he's walling out--the neighbor!
Melissa the barrier is a form of stabililty
Julie (reluctantly)
Francesca we may not actually need to be separated, but
we need to be aware they're there
Alexandra it's part of the cycle of ritual purification
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